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Old 03-18-2010, 09:19 PM   #31 (permalink)
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So, you think my uneducated pilot and the highlanders are both "strawmen." They are not. They are what you get if you do not send young people to an "indoctrination centre."

If you have a viable alternative to our current "indoctrination centre," do tell.
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Old 03-19-2010, 03:06 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Ax, the schools already have to an extent, and what is the result - Creationist rubbish, this is the exact why they don't want state schools with evolution
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Ax, the schools already have to an extent, and what is the result - Creationist rubbish, this is the exact why they don't want state schools with evolution
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The teaching of creationism or indeed evolutionism could be seen as perpetrating fraud , but only if they seek to overly indoctrinate or coerce others." Axiom
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Creationist rubbish...
Its the most plausible scientific theory for mankind's existence.
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Its the most plausible scientific theory for mankind's existence.
Alien intervention ?
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Old 04-12-2010, 11:38 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Alien intervention ?
which brand? Ronald Hubbard's variety - scientologists?

Ralians?

Jesus -the silly bugger who did not even bother to have sex whilst on earth - he missed the best part of being a human yet they reakon that he was the perfect human???
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which brand? Ronald Hubbard's variety - scientologists?

Ralians?
How the hell would i know ??
Who do you think i am , God ??

( but just quietly , look to the Orion star system )

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Jesus -the silly bugger who did not even bother to have sex whilst on earth - he missed the best part of being a human yet they reakon that he was the perfect human???
Orions don't have sex in ways you are familiar with .
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Orions don't have sex in ways you are familiar with .
Oh, is it the Holy Spirit variety that got the Blessed Virgin Mary into trouble -she was still a virgin afterwards and she felt nothing - like a cow artificially inseminated?
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Oh, is it the Holy Spirit variety that got the Blessed Virgin Mary into trouble -she was still a virgin afterwards and she felt nothing - like a cow artificially inseminated?
Linda Moulton Howe may be of some interest to you here .
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Are you on the turps today, I think your last post here was in the wrong thread. It should have been answering AC verus AX thread instead?
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Are you on the turps today, I think your last post here was in the wrong thread. It should have been answering AC verus AX thread instead?
no, all in perfect order .
look up LMH
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Valedictorian Exposes Education Sham

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val.jpgThe following speech was delivered by top of the class student Erica Goldson during the graduation ceremony at Coxsackie-Athens High School on June 25, 2010.
[Abridged by Henry Makow]

I am graduating. I should look at this as a positive experience, especially being at the top of my class. However, in retrospect, I cannot say that I am any more intelligent than my peers. I can attest that I am only the best at doing what I am told and working the system.

Yet, here I stand, and I am supposed to be proud that I have completed this period of indoctrination. I will leave in the fall to go on to the next phase expected of me, in order to receive a paper document that certifies that I am capable of work.

But I contest that I am a human being, a thinker, an adventurer - not a worker. A worker is someone who is trapped within repetition - a slave of the system set up before him. But now, I have successfully shown that I was the best slave. I did what I was told to the extreme. While others sat in class and doodled to later become great artists, I sat in class to take notes and become a great test-taker.

While others would come to class without their homework done because they were reading about an interest of theirs, I never missed an assignment. While others were creating music and writing lyrics, I decided to do extra credit, even though I never needed it. So, I wonder, why did I even want this position? Sure, I earned it, but what will come of it? When I leave educational institutionalism, will I be successful or forever lost?

I have no clue about what I want to do with my life; I have no interests because I saw every subject of study as work, and I excelled at every subject just for the purpose of excelling, not learning. And quite frankly, now I'm scared.

John Taylor Gatto, a retired school teacher and activist critical of compulsory schooling, asserts, "We could encourage the best qualities of youthfulness - curiosity, adventure, resilience, the capacity for surprising insight simply by being more flexible about time, texts, and tests, by introducing kids into truly competent adults, and by giving each student what autonomy he or she needs in order to take a risk every now and then. But we don't do that."

Between these cinder block walls, we are all expected to be the same. We are trained to ace every standardized test, and those who deviate and see light through a different lens are worthless to the scheme of public education, and therefore viewed with contempt.

H. L. Mencken wrote in The American Mercury for April 1924 that the aim of public education is not "to fill the young of the species with knowledge and awaken their intelligence. ... Nothing could be further from the truth. The aim ... is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States whatever pretensions of politicians, pedagogues other such mountebanks, and that is its aim everywhere else."

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Old 08-07-2010, 05:12 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I have no clue about what I want to do with my life; I have no interests because I saw every subject of study as work, and I excelled at every subject just for the purpose of excelling, not learning. And quite frankly, now I'm scared.
What a pathetic myopic cynic with a topping of whiney wet wallowing. Someone must kill her for wasting 20 years of everyone's time.
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What a pathetic myopic cynic with a topping of whiney wet wallowing. Someone must kill her for wasting 20 years of everyone's time.
and what would you do with mencken , taylor-gatto and izerbyt ?
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and what would you do with mencken , taylor-gatto and izerbyt ?
Yawn and walk away from them.
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