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Old 03-07-2009, 04:17 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Public funds must not be used for such purposes. The rearing and instruction of youth must be left entirely to parents [b]and to private associations and institutions. Ludwig von Mises
Wrong! Pepsi and other corporations already finance universities, and therefore have too much influence on young minds. Afterall, he who pays the piper calls the tune. How independent do you think these corporate financed universities are Axiom? Here is a hint, what was Colgate University called before the Colgate corporation got their wallets out?
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
Wrong! Pepsi and other corporations already finance universities, and therefore have too much influence on young minds. Afterall, he who pays the piper calls the tune. How independent do you think these corporate financed universities are Axiom? Here is a hint, what was Colgate University called before the Colgate corporation got their wallets out?
by "private" Ludwig was referring to privately run in the hands of a cooperative of like minded parents, not corporations working hand in glove with governments.
ie. parent choice driven education ,not state or corporate driven.
ie. the right to choose as opposed to the virtual no choice options currently available through out the homogeneity of primary,secondary and tertiary levels.

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How independent do you think these corporate financed universities are Axiom? not at all

what was Colgate University called before the Colgate corporation got their wallets out? Madison University
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:18 PM   #19 (permalink)
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The United Nations: Our Children’s New Parents?



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Through its various agencies and treaties, the United Nations seeks to undermine individual, as well as national sovereignty. It has been almost 15 years since President Clinton signed on to the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC). The U.S. remains one of the last holdouts as the treaty lies dormant, yet to be ratified. The UNCRC grants children new civil, social, cultural and economic rights that could override parental decisions. Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), is pushing for a vote as there is a real sense that under an Obama presidency, the UNCRC could finally be ratified.
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Under the guise of human rights, the UN agenda is to further breakup the family.


If the UNCRC is ratified, parents could be prohibited from homeschooling and spanking their children. It undermines parental authority and gives more power to the state to further dictate how children are raised. It grants children dangerous new rights thus encouraging more rebellious behavior. The truth is that in many cases, children do not have the wisdom and maturity to make sound decisions. The treaty also gives children the mechanism by which they could dispute any parental judgment. The UNCRC transfers more parental authority to the state while granting children radical new rights.

Under the UNCRC, an 18-member committee has been established to review children’s rights and any other disputes that might arise. In many cases, we are already bound by international treaties and the UNCRC gives unaccountable UN bureaucrats the power to make decisions concerning our children’s well-being. Parents are being demoted to simple caregivers, while the state assumes the role of the prime authoritative figure. The UNCRC is an assault on parental authority and is essentially a blank check for governmental interference in family matters. It is meant to further promote child autonomy and freedom from parental guidance.

In the U.S., homeschooling numbers continue to rise as a growing number of parents look to better control their child’s moral instruction. Under the UNCRC, homeschooling could be interpreted as a violation of a child’s well being. Some states have tried to ban and outlaw homeschooling and the UNCRC could make it a Usponsored activity. Public school education is designed to correct any perceived errors in rearing and home training. The ideology of globalism and world government is at the very core of the educational system. The UN seeks to undermine parental authority, traditional values and biblical principles. They wish to gain more control over our children’s upbringing and education.



Under the guise of human rights, the UN agenda is to further breakup the family. At recent meetings held in Mexico City, United Nations Population Fund representative, Arie Hoekman, told participants that high divorce rates and out-of-wedlock births were not a social crisis, but instead a triumph for human rights. Traditional values and principles instilled by parents, are being manipulated and pushed aside. The breakdown of the family is bringing about a rise in new values. Children’s love and loyalty to their family and country is being systematically destroyed. Under a new global order, there is no room for nationalism or individuality and a strong family unit represents a threat to this system.

Being a parent is a huge responsibility and undertaking that should not be taken lightly. Parents are not always right and some may be unfit. The reality is that children thrive in an environment where there is love and structure which includes consequences for their behavior. The UNCRC infringes upon parental authority and represents a massive intrusion by the state into family affairs. It has the potential to radically alter parent-child relationships. The UN definitely has no business telling parents how to raise their children and neither does the government unless there is evidence of neglect or abuse. The UN is a morally bankrupt institution with a horrible record of protecting human rights around the world and the U.S ratifying the UNCRC will not change that.

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Madison University
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One
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not at all
I wouldn't go so far as to say not at all. However, I would say they are only independent to the extent that their teachings do not conflict with the profitability or other 'interests' of the corporate sponsor.
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
I wouldn't go so far as to say not at all. However, I would say they are only independent to the extent that their teachings do not conflict with the profitability or other 'interests' of the corporate sponsor.
precisely !
ie. not that dissimilar to that of government interests either.

I seek to speak for individual freedoms and choice, devoid of the all prevailing unquestioning "hive" mentality.
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Parents protest at Ofsted inspections for children taught at home - Times Online
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What that "angry young nerd" does not know is that schools are not "dumbed down." Schools, for cost reasons, simply cater for the majority and the majority are not genetically capable of anything greater than foraging, fighting and fornicating. For 80% of students, the curriculum is "pearls before swine." The other 20% is 10% candidates for a bullet and 10% for running society.

I would like to see that boy get on a plane piloted by someone who graduated from the "school of hard knocks" rather than XYZ High School.
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What that "angry young nerd" does not know is that schools are not "dumbed down."
they are, according to someone who should know, charlotte izerbyt ! refer to her book "the dumbing down of america"

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Schools, for cost reasons, simply cater for the majority and the majority are not genetically capable of anything greater than foraging, fighting and fornicating. For 80% of students, the curriculum is "pearls before swine." The other 20% is 10% candidates for a bullet and 10% for running society.
Humans are drugged , traumatised ,brainwashed and virtually imprisoned in these mind destroying indoctrination centres , yet you want to blame them !?
That's like chopping off a leg of a dog , then chastising it for not moving fast enough .

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I would like to see that boy get on a plane piloted by someone who graduated from the "school of hard knocks" rather than XYZ High School.
an erroneous comparison, a strawman, and hyperbolic.
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Humans are drugged , traumatised ,brainwashed and virtually imprisoned in these mind destroying indoctrination centres , yet you want to blame them !?
OK, the corollary to that is, that 80% of those humans who do not go through "indoctrination centres" are better than mere foraging fighting fornicators. Hmmm. I s'pose you would feel more comfy living in a tribe in the New Guinea highlands than here.
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OK, the corollary to that is, that 80% of those humans who do not go through "indoctrination centres" are better than mere foraging fighting fornicators. Hmmm. I s'pose you would feel more comfy living in a tribe in the New Guinea highlands than here.
an erroneous comparison, a strawman, and hyperbolic.
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an erroneous comparison, a strawman, and hyperbolic.
So, you think my uneducated pilot and the highlanders are both "strawmen." They are not. They are what you get if you do not send young people to an "indoctrination centre."

If you have a viable alternative to our current "indoctrination centre," do tell.
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