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Please just post the article - or do both but be sure to post the article. I don't have time for these trips around the internet!
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Old 07-31-2009, 03:35 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Please just post the article - or do both but be sure to post the article. I don't have time for these trips around the internet!
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Napolitano Reports to CFR on Stasi Snoop Network


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Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano traveled to New York to deliver a speech to the boss today. She told the Council on Foreign Relations there will be no departure from the Bush administration in regard to homeland security. It will be the same agenda with a few minor changes — for instance, the color-coded threat advisory will be chucked.
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“Napolitano sang the praises of counter-terrorism intelligence being shared between federal, state and local agencies through arrangements known as fusion centers,” writes Frank James for NPR. Napolitano said she plans “to make them a top priority for this department to support them, build them, improve them and work with them.”

Translation: the feds will continue the full-steam ahead effort to federalize state and local law enforcement, an effort that began in earnest under Bill Clinton and picked up critical momentum during the reign of George W. Bush.

“Napolitano sounded just like her predecessors Ridge and Michael Chertoff,” James continues. “And she talked about educating the populace about how to be the eyes and ears of counter-terrorism and also how to respond to the aftermath of man-made or natural disasters,” or for that matter government contrived false flag operations.

Napolitano told the internationalist cabal in New York that the American people suffer from “complacency” and this is a “threat in the United States.” In order to combat complacency, the government has to do more to “educate” the public on the threat posed by terrorists and other miscreants. In other words, Napolitano admitted the incessant warnings of impending doom — from dirty bombs in major cities to bad guys taking out nuclear plants — have not worked.

Napolitano said the public has to be recruited, sort of like the public was recruited in East Germany by the Stasi. “For too long we’ve treated the public as a liability to be protected rather than an asset in our nation’s collective security,” she declared. Napolitano said the country’s “counter-terrorism efforts” should include the public, that “you are the ones who know if something is not right in your communities, such as a suspicious package, or unusual activities.”

Of course, “unusual activities” are in the eye of the beholder, especially a beholder that has endured nearly a decade of incessant propaganda about terrorism, most of it entirely fictional and bogus.

“To an intelligence agent, informant, or law enforcement officer,” Bruce Fein, of Bruce Fein & Associates and The Lichfield Group, said earlier this year, “everything unconventional or unorthodox looks like at least a pre-embryonic terrorist danger.” According to Fein, using the standards proposed by the Department of Homeland Security and fusion centers scattered around the country, everyone from the Founding Fathers to abolitionist William Lloyd Garrison to suffragette Susan B. Anthony would have been the subject of SARs, or suspicious activity reports.

Now SARs and intelligence reports are filed on the supporters of Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin, as a fusion center report produced by the Missouri State Police indicated earlier this year. Napolitano’s DHS produced a report of its own on “rightwing extremism” that characterized militia members, Second Amendment advocates, returning veterans, pro-life and anti-illegal immigration activists as terrorists.

In addition to fostering a snoop culture, Janet Napolitano told the CFR her agency wants to “get to a point where we are in a constant state of preparedness, not a constant state of fear.” In order to do this, the government and its enlisted army of snoops, stool pigeons, and rat finks need to “monitor home-grown threats.”


Between 1950 and 1989, the Stasi employed a total of 274,000 persons in an effort to root out the “class enemy,” that is to say anybody and everybody who opposed communism and East Germany’s Soviet-styled state. The Stasi had close to 500,000 inoffizielle Mitarbeiter (IMs), or informers, which approximated 5% of East Germany’s population between the ages of 18 and 60. The Stasi secret police and informer network rivaled that of both the Gestapo and the Soviet KGB.

It is said the former head of the Stasi, Markus Wolf, was hired by Homeland Security as a consultant back in 2003. Ditto KGB General Yevgeni Primakov.

The journalist Mike Whitney speculates that the stories about Wolf and Primakov might be “fabrications intended to mislead independent research,” but considering the track record of the Bush administration — murderous invasions claiming the lives of well over a million people, torture, rape rooms, assassination squads, massive and illegal surveillance, etc. — it is entirely possible.

It is a well established fact the United States recruited Nazis after World War Two. In addition to Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and Hubertus Strughold, the CIA recruited Nazi ideologue Emil Augsburg, an officer at the infamous Wannsee Institute, an SS mass extermination think tank. SS officer Klaus Barbie, “The Butcher of Lyon” was employed by the US Army after WW2 to spy on the French and other Nazi leaders, regarded as “specialists in anti-resistance activities,” were used in counterintelligence operations in Italy.

But even without the expertise of Wolf and Primakov, it should be obvious the United States is well along in the multifaceted process of creating a police state — or rather a political police force answerable to the executive (and those who control the executive) and tasked with maintaining the political power of the state rather than upholding the rule of law or for that matter protecting the nation against real terrorists (such as the economic and social terrorists gathered before Napolitano as she gave her speech).

A key characteristic of a police state is the creation and maintenance of a vast network of spies, informants, and agents provocateurs — again, not to guard against foreign enemies or criminals, but to hunt down, discredit, and render ineffective political dissidents.

Napolitano was in New York to inform her bosses at the Council on Foreign Relations that the secret police agency known as the Department of Homeland Security is on schedule and nothing — except that silly threat level meter — has changed in the supposed transition between the Bush and Obama administrations.

She was also sending a message to would-be snoops around the country — your services are required, especially if your neighbor has a Ron Paul bumper sticker on his car, talks about the Second Amendment, or says the Federal Reserve needs to be audited.

Incidentally, in the case of the Stasi and East Germany, only 7.7%, according to official figures, were coerced into cooperating. Most people cooperated with the state because they were made to feel important or were given material or social incentives.

It will be the same here when our particular brand of Stasi gets moving in earnest.


The official CFR video of Napolitano’s speech.

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Even when out for dinner in a restaurant, we are not free from snooping CCTV cameras



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Last week, I went out with some friends after a party. We ended up in a restaurant in Marsham Street, central London, the heart of surveillance land. Nearby, there is a crossroads where I recently found myself late at night waiting for a cab and counting the cameras that watched the empty junction. I reached 28 by the time a cab arrived.

The name of the restaurant was Osteria dell'angolo, which promises to bring a taste of Tuscany to the heart of London. Our party of 10 sat down and ordered. I looked round and saw that our table was being watched by three cameras.

There is almost nothing that annoys me more than this kind of pointless blanket surveillance which paying customers are told is for their protection. I went outside to cool down, then returned to eat my salad. But the fuse was burning. I asked the waiter, then the manager, why we were being filmed. No answer was forthcoming, but eventually the manager muttered that Westminster city council insists that cameras are installed and switched on in his restaurant. I replied quite forcibly that I thought that this was rubbish, at which point he started talking about getting the police.

During this exchange, I may have mentioned that if I had been photographing in his restaurant he would almost certainly have asked me to stop. I may also have speculated that Osteria dell'angolo would soon be introducing overhead microphones for the "safety of diners". I paid the bill and returned to the table to tell my friends that I was leaving; they could stay and eat the second course, but I wasn't going to celebrate a novel about the surveillance state under the eye of three cameras.

Rather to my surprise, they all left with me, which was embarrassing but also heartening. The evening was ruined and I felt responsible. But it turns out that I was technically right about one thing: the council does not insist on CCTV, although it supports pressure from the Metropolitan Police which "recommends that all businesses have CCTV because it acts as a deterrent and helps police solve minor crimes."

There is an important issue here: while every kind of public body and private business feels able freely to photograph and record us, the public is being increasingly restricted in the use of cameras. A paper from the Manifesto Club by Pauline Hadaway, the director of a photography gallery called Belfast Exposed, makes a good point about the attack on what she calls citizen photography. "There has been a creeping restriction of everyday photography. This ranges from children being told that they can only take photos of particular parts of the body to sports clubs being told they should remove all photos of kids from their websites."

The unofficial bans unearthed by her include photography of buildings because people may steal the design, airports and train stations for security reasons and children's Nativity plays because the pictures could be posted on the web. She writes: "Much of the contemporary paranoia around photography appears to be driven by vague suspicion rather than any real present danger."

Interestingly, exactly that instinct is responsible for filling restaurants and pubs with CCTV in London. It is perhaps time for restaurant critics and guides to include information about CCTV in their reviews because, when it comes down to it, Osteria dell'angolo is bringing a taste of the Stasi, not Tuscany, to the heart of London.
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Even when out for dinner in a restaurant, we are not free from snooping CCTV cameras
CCTV camera's prevent crime and are a force for good!
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CCTV camera's prevent crime and are a force for good!
Wrong !!

Google : cctvs don't prevent crime
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/t...e-they-for.htm

and GET INFORMED , AND STOP BEING BRAINWASHED !
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Informing Question of the day : What is 'Project Indect' ?
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Informing Question of the day : What is 'Project Indect' ?
It is a project involving CCTV camera's!
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
It is a project involving CCTV camera's!
getting warm !

i'm looking forward to your report !
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Informing Question of the day : What is 'Project Indect' ?
EU Plans Massive Surveillance Panopticon That Would Monitor “Abnormal Behavior”



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EU Plans Massive Surveillance Panopticon That Would Monitor Abnormal Behavior 110106surveillance1

The European Union is developing a 21st century panopticon, a beast surveillance system that critics describe as “Orwellian,” “sinister,” and “positively chilling,” that would collate data from numerous sources, including surveillance cameras and personal computers, in order to detect “abnormal behavior” across the entire continent.

In a broader sense, this is part of the move towards creating a pan-European federal police force, where information and powers are shared as part of a centralized system. It is also a giant step towards the creation of a European CIA tasked not with keeping tabs on foreign enemies, but spying on its own population.

The surveillance system, known as Project Indect, promises to collect information by way of “continuous monitoring” of “web sites, discussion forums, usenet groups, file servers, p2p networks [and] individual computer systems”. It will also use CCTV feeds and other surveillance methods to develop models of “suspicious behavior” by analyzing the pitch of people’s voices (suggesting that private conversations will be recorded) as well as “the way their bodies move”.

Its main objective will be the “automatic detection of threats and abnormal behavior or violence”.

This is Echelon on steroids, a new version of the decades old NSA run program that has already been spying on citizens for years, updated and expanded for the technological applications of the early 21st century. In 1999, the Australian government admitted that they were part of an NSA led global intercept and surveillance grid in alliance with the US and Britain that could listen to “every international telephone call, fax, e-mail, or radio transmission,” on the planet. Project Indect is merely a new incarnation of the same beast surveillance system.



Open Europe analyst Stephen Booth described the project as “Orwellian” and a “huge invasion of privacy,” noting that European citizens’ own taxes will go towards a program that treats them all as guilty until proven innocent.

“Profiling whole populations instead of monitoring individual suspects is a sinister step in any society,” added Shami Chakrabarti, the director of human rights group Liberty.

“It’s dangerous enough at national level, but on a Europe-wide scale the idea becomes positively chilling,” she said.

Project Indect is a huge lurch forward in the agenda to construct a mammoth surveillance pen within which the population of the entire planet is imprisoned.

The methods being employed to do this are a technologically advanced throwback to social theorist Jeremy Bentham’s 1785 concept of The Panopticon, a specially constructed prison building designed “to allow an observer to observe (-opticon) all (pan-) prisoners without the prisoners being able to tell whether they are being watched, thereby conveying what one architect has called the “sentiment of an invisible omniscience.”

Bentham described the Panopticon as “a new mode of obtaining power of mind over mind, in a quantity hitherto without example.”

The notion that the individual does not know when they are being watched by the authorities is key in achieving the ultimate goal, to keep the population in a constant state of subjugation, unease and fear, leading them to self-regulate their own behavior.

According to Danish Institute for Human Rights researcher Peter Scharff, the Panopticon was intended to promote “self-regulation that was to be provoked by the constant surveillance”. The concept was eventually incorporated into many prisons that continue today as “podular” designs, which also maximizes the amount of people that can be controlled by one person. The fact that authorities are building societal prisons around us all today using the same basic methods of control is enough to send a chill down anyone’s spine and remind us once again that freedom is a myth.

This has nothing to do with catching criminals – as recent figures in the UK have proven, CCTV cameras have virtually no impact on crime whatsoever. This is all about letting the slaves know who their bosses are, it’s a psychological mind game set up to distinguish and reinforce the master-servant relationship between the state and the individual.

The endgame is to convince the individual that to express their freedom in public, to engage in any kind of protest or merely to question the power structure that surrounds them, is a “suspicious” act detrimental to society and that negative consequences will follow for any slave who dares to step outside of this invisible yet oppressive jail cell.
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more deluded and brainwash rubbish
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more deluded and brainwash rubbish
I don't understand what it has to do with CCTV camera's?
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