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Old 02-07-2009, 08:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Is he on the best sellers list?
NO, WHY ?
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Old 02-08-2009, 02:56 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Wiki - John Taylor Gatto also has some info about him.

He promotes homeschooling, and specifically unschooling. One professor of education has called his books "scathing" and "one-sided and hyperbolic, [but] not inaccurate."
Btw efforts are now being made to completely disallow homeschooling of any sort in United States. I know I may sound lunatic if I say it is just a matter of time homeschooling will be banned in most of the countries in the near future, but I will say it anyway, because I think this is the direction we are now heading. Take from it what you will -
Homeschooling Banned in California as State Turns Parents Into Criminals for Teaching Their Own Children
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Home education 'can be cover for abuse and forced marriage'
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Home education 'can be cover for abuse and forced marriage'
And there have been no instances of abuse in public and private schools by those entrusted to look after kids?

I have no issue with homeschooling actually, as the quality of teaching will likely be better than a teacher could provide looking after 30 odds kids at the same time.
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The all-seeing eye of state surveillance

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February 6, 2009


It is not any one cigarette or one extra drink that is ruinous to the health. The damage is done over the years, almost imperceptibly. Grave threats to the health of democracy can also accrue so incrementally that they draw little attention. A committee of peers diagnose one such danger today in a report on the steady creep of surveillance. The charge of hysteria is routinely used to sweep aside such talk when it comes from crusading journalists and pressure groups. The Lords constitutional affairs committee, however, cannot be dismissed the same way. A more dignified band of dignitaries would be hard to imagine - it includes a former attorney general who is a conservative champion of that antiquated role, a Tory expert on the constitution, and a founder of that force of militant moderation that was called the SDP.

Their insistence that mundane data collection “risks undermining the fundamental relationship between the state and the citizen” may be dramatic, but it is rooted in careful argument. Privacy is not only a precondition to a life of any quality, it is part of the meaning of liberty. The rule of law in Britain is not codified in a constitution, but underpinned by shared support for the twin ideals of executive restraint and individual freedom. Under the gaze of 4 million CCTV cameras, and in the face of the burgeoning electronic tabs being kept on citizens, both ideals are strained. Bit by bit the state - and private firms - cease to believe that the courtroom is the place to hold individuals to account, and instead grow used to monitoring them in all sorts of contexts in the name of convenience. Bit by bit, meanwhile, individuals learn to live with the ubiquitous prying eye.

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Old 02-09-2009, 05:10 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Yeah and they are doing it gradually, step after step so you will get used to the state spying on you.

Here in Estonia, they want to put a chip into your car so you could be tracked anywhere you go with your car. They say our cats and dogs are already chipped, so why not our bigger family members - cars. The word "family members" is what disturbs me. Next step - lets chip our grandparents, then our kids, then well it will be announced compulsory for everyone, because we are already so used to them.

Anyway it is compulsory here to chip our pets. They forgot to say that the pets can't be tracked by satellites via GPS technology while if we put chips in cars, they will be tracked.

It would of course be for our benefit - less traffic accidents, less taxpayers money spent for road safety and police, more information for ********* specialists to improve the infrastructure etc. That's so great, makes me want to put a chip into my car right away.
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It would of course be for our benefit - less traffic accidents, ...
I am not sure how a chip in your car would result in less traffic accidents.
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Privacy advocates hope to force VeriChip Corporation into bankruptcy

Stock drops from $9.00 to fifty cents a share



Delray Beach, FL– VeriChip Corporation, the company known as the creator of the first implantable microchip identification device which people have implanted in their hands or arms in order to identify them wherever they go, has been targeted by a national privacy watchdog organization with hopes of putting them out of business.


“VeriChip’s stock is down to less than fifty cents a share. A year ago it was over nine dollars, and hopefully in a few months it will be worth less than toilet paper,” explains Mark Dice, spokesperson for The Resistance, a privacy watchdog group based in San Diego.

Dice is hoping to push the company into bankruptcy by exposing the dangers and invasions of privacy that using such technology entails. He is calling for a nation-wide boycott of the device that consists of a tiny computer chip which is implanted into people’s bodies. The VeriChip is currently being used at bars and businesses to identify customers and employees, and many fear they will become mandatory in many sectors of society.

“These chips were first used for identifying pets and livestock, and now they’re being pushed onto the public as a safety device in this age of terrorism and fear,” says Dice. “We are human beings, not animals or pieces of inventory, and we urge everyone to resist such technology.”

Banks and businesses are planning for the VeriChip to substitute credit and debit cards, as well as traditional forms of identification around the world. Many privacy advocates are uncomfortable with these plans, and some Christians are especially disturbed citing a verse in the Bible which explains that the Antichrist will force people to use such a device as the only accepted form of currency.

The Bible’s Book of Revelation warns about such a device saying, “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” Revelation 13:16.

Dice believes the VeriChip is, “the Pandora’s box of the mark of the Beast, and the beginning of cashless society with privacy being a thing of the past, similar to George Orwell’s description of the world in his book 1984.”

Aside from privacy concerns, there are also health concerns about such devices. Last year a study was released that showed RFID tags similar to VeriChip can cause cancer in mice, a study that The Resistance wants everyone to know about.

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Privacy advocates hope to force VeriChip Corporation into bankruptcy

Stock drops from $9.00 to fifty cents a share



Delray Beach, FL– VeriChip Corporation, the company known as the creator of the first implantable microchip identification device which people have implanted in their hands or arms in order to identify them wherever they go, has been targeted by a national privacy watchdog organization with hopes of putting them out of business.


“VeriChip’s stock is down to less than fifty cents a share. A year ago it was over nine dollars, and hopefully in a few months it will be worth less than toilet paper,” explains Mark Dice, spokesperson for The Resistance, a privacy watchdog group based in San Diego.

Dice is hoping to push the company into bankruptcy by exposing the dangers and invasions of privacy that using such technology entails. He is calling for a nation-wide boycott of the device that consists of a tiny computer chip which is implanted into people’s bodies. The VeriChip is currently being used at bars and businesses to identify customers and employees, and many fear they will become mandatory in many sectors of society.

“These chips were first used for identifying pets and livestock, and now they’re being pushed onto the public as a safety device in this age of terrorism and fear,” says Dice. “We are human beings, not animals or pieces of inventory, and we urge everyone to resist such technology.”

Banks and businesses are planning for the VeriChip to substitute credit and debit cards, as well as traditional forms of identification around the world. Many privacy advocates are uncomfortable with these plans, and some Christians are especially disturbed citing a verse in the Bible which explains that the Antichrist will force people to use such a device as the only accepted form of currency.

The Bible’s Book of Revelation warns about such a device saying, “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” Revelation 13:16.

Dice believes the VeriChip is, “the Pandora’s box of the mark of the Beast, and the beginning of cashless society with privacy being a thing of the past, similar to George Orwell’s description of the world in his book 1984.”

Aside from privacy concerns, there are also health concerns about such devices. Last year a study was released that showed RFID tags similar to VeriChip can cause cancer in mice, a study that The Resistance wants everyone to know about.

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Yeah, the pointless insertion of bible-quote really helps make them not look like crackpots. And I'm sure they are fully responsible for stock price, nothing to do with stocks in general being toilet paper right now. I don't know what they'd succeed in should verichip go out of business, though; they'll just get bought by someone else. Technology never vanishes just because you want it to, better to find ways to deal with it.

Oh, and by the way. Unless you really want to be blatantly violating copyright law, you really ought to at least include a link to wherever you copy/pasted the quoted text from.
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Which bars and businesses have had employees and customers implanted? Sounds like BS to me. I need some evidence please.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:14 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Which bars and businesses have had employees and customers implanted? Sounds like BS to me. I need some evidence please.
It sounds like BS to you because you are probably a mind controlled programmed brainwashed uninformed bootlicker.
Sorry but i'm sick of this type of lazy response .
Ever thought of research or investigation?
Ever thought of the google search engine ?
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Yeah, the pointless insertion of bible-quote really helps make them not look like crackpots. And I'm sure they are fully responsible for stock price, nothing to do with stocks in general being toilet paper right now. I don't know what they'd succeed in should verichip go out of business, though; they'll just get bought by someone else. Technology never vanishes just because you want it to, better to find ways to deal with it.

Oh, and by the way. Unless you really want to be blatantly violating copyright law, you really ought to at least include a link to wherever you copy/pasted the quoted text from.
I agree on the bible quote (i'm an atheist)
But i have never ever said i want technology to vanish !
Only to warn of the way tyranny(THE NORM IN HISTORY !)
is likely to use it ( read "Impact of Science on Society"- Bertrand Russell !)

and SCREW COPYRIGHT !
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Which bars and businesses have had employees and customers implanted? Sounds like BS to me. I need some evidence please.
I typed "barcelona nightclub microchip" (without the quotes) into the google. BS or not, this is the first result:
BBC - Barcelona Clubbers get Chipped

I gave you the information before, you didn't take it. Now I'm spoonfeeding you the information, but I'm pretty sure you won't take it even now. More evidence you say? Go to a nightclub and get yourself a microchip
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I typed "barcelona nightclub microchip" (without the quotes) into the google. BS or not, this is the first result:
BBC - Barcelona Clubbers get Chipped

I gave you the information before, you didn't take it. Now I'm spoonfeeding you the information, but I'm pretty sure you won't take it even now. More evidence you say? Go to a nightclub and get yourself a microchip
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Old 02-18-2009, 03:48 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Talking about lazy response

Anyway, I don't know if it helps you to understand why it is important to get the word out, but The No Verichip Inside Movement - We the people will not be chipped puts it so well on why we shouldn't be ignorant about this issue even though it seems it doesn't affect you personally in any way. The truth is quite the opposite.

When Verichip micro-chipped the Alzheimer patients I remained silent I was not an Alzheimer patient

When Verichip micro-chipped the Diabetic and AIDS patients I remained silent; I was not an AIDS patient nor a Diabetic

When Verichip micro-chipped the Military I did not speak out; I was not in the Military

When Verichip came for the activists I remained silent; I was not an Activist

When they came to microchip me , there was no one left to speak out
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It sounds like BS to you because you are probably a mind controlled programmed brainwashed uninformed bootlicker.
Yeah probably

Sorry but i'm sick of this type of lazy response .
Yeah, much more work involved in a cut and paste.

Ever thought of research or investigation? Ever thought of the google search engine ?
Why the **** should I bother to investigate or research vague assertions made by others? If a name had been posted, I might have tried to verify or something...what am I supposed to start with when all I have is "bars and businesses"?
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