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Old 02-04-2009, 10:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think in regards to implanting microchips in humans, the benefits far outweigh the possible drawback that governments will misuse that information.
Like I said, its because you don't really know what the drawbacks are because they are not talked about very much.

Not only can gov get a signal (which is bad enough already imo) they can also transmit electric impulses into your body and take control over you by taking over your emotions or causing you intense pain. I would rather die free than live as a slave. I think I will survive without being tracked, without google in my brain and without whatever the benefits are. The price is just too high for me.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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If you are worried about getting located, better ditch that mobile phone I think current physical microchip techniques are pretty much already redundant anyway. Your DNA is already a unique signature that can theoretically be manipulated for evil and commercial reasons.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:17 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Like I said, its because you don't really know what the drawbacks are because they are not talked about very much.

Not only can gov get a signal (which is bad enough already imo) they can also transmit electric impulses into your body and take control over you by taking over your emotions or causing you intense pain. I would rather die free than live as a slave. I think I will survive without being tracked, without google in my brain and without whatever the benefits are. The price is just too high for me.
If you are scared of electromagnetic energy, you'll be reassured to know that our bodies are already getting bombarded with electrical signals. Think about it, you can turn your radio on just about anywhere and get a signal/station. All those electrical signals go through the human body everyday and all night. They go through the metal roofs on our houses, and the bricks in our buildings. It makes sense that they also go through tissue and flesh as well.

Does this have an effect on our health? I don't know what the science says, but I believe it has a significant effect. However, my point is you are already being subjected to these unnatural energetic forces, so a microchip implant isn't really going to change that.


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If you are worried about getting located, better ditch that mobile phone I think current physical microchip techniques are pretty much already redundant anyway. Your DNA is already a unique signature that can theoretically be manipulated for evil and commercial reasons.
Good point regarding the mobile, but how can our DNA be manipulated for anyone else's commercial gain?
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
If you are scared of electromagnetic energy, you'll be reassured to know that our bodies are already getting bombarded with electrical signals. Think about it, you can turn your radio on just about anywhere and get a signal/station. All those electrical signals go through the human body everyday and all night. They go through the metal roofs on our houses, and the bricks in our buildings. It makes sense that they also go through tissue and flesh as well.

Does this have an effect on our health? I don't know what the science says, but I believe it has a significant effect. However, my point is you are already being subjected to these unnatural energetic forces, so a microchip implant isn't really going to change that.




Good point regarding the mobile, but how can our DNA be manipulated for anyone else's commercial gain?
Yes, I agree we are being bombarded with electromagnetic waves on a daily basis and that it has a negative impact on our health, but I can't agree on that a microchip won't change anything.

There has been lots of drama in our local community lately when there were lots of deaths by cancer in one particular street. A high voltage electric power lines happened to be close by. I have also heard about cancer being developed after being implanted with a chip. Maybe it is a coincidence, maybe it is not, but certainly chips are not going to make things better, or that they won't change anything.

Saying microchips won't change anything would be saying like we have an economic crisis, but ah, hell with it, lets just make it collapse by doing more bad decisions.
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Good point regarding the mobile, but how can our DNA be manipulated for anyone else's commercial gain?
Perhaps I have been watching too many sci fi shows. Anyway the National DNA database is a government database of DNA profiles which can be used by law enforcement agencies to identify suspects of crimes. It's uses could go beyond that of law enforcement. See National DNA database - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The United States maintains the largest DNA database in the world, with the Combined DNA Index System holding over 5 million records as of 2007[3]. The United Kingdom maintains the National DNA Database (NDNAD), which is of similar size. The size of this database, and its rate of growth, is giving concern to civil liberties and political groups in the UK[4][5][6], where police have wide-ranging powers to take samples and retain them even in the event of acquittal.[7]
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I have also heard about cancer being developed after being implanted with a chip.
Okay, well this is a very good reason against getting the microchip implanted. I hadn't heard about this before.
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Old 02-06-2009, 07:27 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I just wish there would be more people do their own research on these matters without buying into the propaganda. Its amazing how people buy into this stuff without thinking for themselves very much, we are just like zombies. Fortunately more and more people realize what is going on. I think we live in very interesting times.
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I just wish there would be more people do their own research on these matters without buying into the propaganda. Its amazing how people buy into this stuff without thinking for themselves very much, we are just like zombies. Fortunately more and more people realize what is going on. I think we live in very interesting times.
Zombies? Aren't most people well educated and able to think for themselves?
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Old 02-06-2009, 01:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Zombies? Aren't most people well educated and able to think for themselves?
I wish that was true.

My friend (not very well educated by the official standards) recently said something along the lines - "Everything we have learned have in fact been learned, not necessarily true". It made me think, what is education.

I sometimes get - "I have graduated the university, meaning I'm smarter than you, I don't have to listen to you" - is that an educated person thinking for himself you just referred to or is that ignorant brainwashed person, who thinks he is now smart because he has passed all the tests and exams by repeating back to them, what they want to hear, not what you really think and feel? I feel sorry for these people and I don't even laugh at them anymore.
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Originally Posted by Jaz View Post
I wish that was true.

My friend (not very well educated by the official standards) recently said something along the lines - "Everything we have learned have in fact been learned, not necessarily true". It made me think, what is education.

I sometimes get - "I have graduated the university, meaning I'm smarter than you, I don't have to listen to you" - is that an educated person thinking for himself you just referred to or is that ignorant brainwashed person, who thinks he is now smart because he has passed all the tests and exams by repeating back to them, what they want to hear, not what you really think and feel? I feel sorry for these people and I don't even laugh at them anymore.
I have to say i am very impressed with your views Jaz .
No doubt you would be interested in the views of John Taylor Gatto .
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I have to say i am very impressed with your views Jaz . No doubt you would be interested in the views of John Taylor Gatto .
I might regret asking this question, but who is John Taylor Gatto?
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I might regret asking this question, but who is John Taylor Gatto?
probably someone who got chipped and claimed he got cancer from it!
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
I might regret asking this question, but who is John Taylor Gatto?
probably someone who got chipped and claimed he got cancer from it.
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
I might regret asking this question, but who is John Taylor Gatto?
An author of illuminating works exposing the schooling system.
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An author of illuminating works exposing the schooling system.
Is he on the best sellers list?
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