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**Just2Good** · 12-02-2008, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

It's related because the CONSEQUENCES are the same !

What consequences? So you are saying the Nazi's wanted to improve the teeth of their prisoners (because that is the consequence of consuming fluoride in water)? That just seems silly to me.

**Axiom** · 12-02-2008, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

What consequences? So you are saying the Nazi's wanted to improve the teeth of their prisoners (because that is the consequence of consuming fluoride in water)? That just seems silly to me.

ok, so why did the nazis put sodium flouride in the prisoner's water supply ?

**Axiom Support Group** · 12-07-2008, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

ok, so why did the nazis put sodium flouride in the prisoner's water supply ?

Maybe because that's what happens in war?

**Axiom** · 12-07-2008, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Thomas Bishop

Maybe because that's what happens in war?

..with what desired outcome ?

**Axiom** · 12-08-2008, 06:01 PM

**AzzX** · 01-15-2009, 03:17 PM

Well as long as it makes the water better than this which happens far too often:

**MOZ** · 01-15-2009, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by AzzX

Well as long as it makes the water better than this which happens far too often:

Not a good look in that water.
Sometimes it is because the pipes within the internal boundary are corroded.
But whatever, it is not a good look I agree.

**Just2Good** · 01-15-2009, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Not a good look in that water.
Sometimes it is because the pipes within the internal boundary are corroded.
But whatever, it is not a good look I agree.

It might be safe to drink even though it looks bad!

**Calvin** · 01-15-2009, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Not a good look in that water.
Sometimes it is because the pipes within the internal boundary are corroded.
But whatever, it is not a good look I agree.

It looks like rust. I am sure glad my dad bought a really good water filter so we don't drink that yuk.

**Axiom** · 11-17-2009, 06:49 PM

Fluoridation Increases Infant Death Rates | Voxy.co.nz

**Axiom** · 12-18-2009, 11:33 PM

Fluoride's here but Graham's gone | Rockhampton News | Local News in Rockhampton | Rockhampton Morning Bulletin

Around the world most people have learned that putting fluoride in our drinking water is a hoax and is dangerous to health. Politicians, acting like dictators, refuse to offer a choice by referendum because in 80% of elections, people reject fluoridation. One has to follow the money trail to understand why.
When the fertilitzer companies, and others, clean their smokestacks, they bag the waste fluoride chemical, ( Hydrofluorosilicic Acid), which contains lead, mercury, arsenic, etc. and sell it to communities to add to our water systems. The Government tries to convince us that it does not harm us if it is diluted enough. Who benefits-------follow the money!
Those promoting fluoridation simply refuse to read the current research showing it is ineffective and dangerous to health. Go to (Fluoride Action Network) and read several scientific articles.
Read the letter from Dr. Hardy Limeback ( DDS, PhD Biochemistry) --- Head, Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto entitled "Why I am now officially opposed to adding fluoride to drinking water"
He was the principal research advisor to the Canadian Dental Asociation for over 10 years in promoting fluoridation. His letter is an apology to other dentists and the public.
Dr. Limeback includes over 140 Research studies, including:
Increased risk of bone cancer -- 13 studies
Lead, arsenic, radium contaminants causing toxic water -- 10 studies
Link with fluoride and other cancer -- 12
Fluoride causes birth defects -- 5
Fluoride affects the immune systems -- 12
Fluoride is neurotoxic (brain, nerves, lowering IQ) -- 11
Etc.
Also see the petition signed by over 2600 professionals opposing fluoridation.

**Axiom** · 02-06-2010, 11:43 PM

WINDS - Fluoride a Toxic Waste

REFERENCES:

1. "Fluoride, Teeth and the Atomic Bomb", Griffiths & Bryson, 1997. Author Griffiths indicated that this URL contains an accurate reproduction of their article.

2. John R. Lee, MD, article: "The Truth About Mandatory Fluoridation", April 15, 1995.

3. "Review of Fluoride Benefits and Risks", Department of Health and Human Services, February 1991, p. 7 & p. 31.

4. The Journal of the Canadian Dental Association, Vol. 53, pp 763-765, 1987.

5. "Neurotoxicity of Sodium Fluoride in Rats", Mullenix, P. Neurotoxicology and Teratology", 17(2), 1995.

6. The New England Journal of Medicine -- January 8, 1998 -- Volume 338, Number 2 [SPECIAL ARTICLE] "Conflict of Interest in the Debate over Calcium-Channel Antagonists", Henry Thomas Stelfox, Grace Chua, Keith O'Rourke, Allan S. Detsky.

7. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, Vol. 825 "Neuroprotective Agents, Third International Conference." Title: "Toxin-Induced Blood Vessel Inclusion caused by the Chronic Administration of Aluminum and Sodium Fluoride and their Implication for Dementia." Robert. L. Isaacson, et al, p. 152-166.

Further reading:

FLUORIDE: Protected Pollutant or Panacea? A very extensive source for scientific papers published on fluoridation

Robert J. Carton, Ph.D., Former EPA scientist. Article: "Corruption and Fraud at the EPA"

The following resources appear valid but The WINDS was unable to fully verify their authenticity and therefore make no claims for such, with the exception that this office has ascertained that Dr. William L. Marcus is currently employed by the EPA.

Richard G. Foulkes, M.D., Article:"Celebration or Shame? Fifty Years of Fluoridation (1945-1995)"

William L. Marcus, Ph.D., Senior Science Advisor, Office of Science and Technology, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Letter.

**Axiom** · 03-16-2010, 06:19 PM

Why is SODIUM FLUORIDE in our water supply again ?

16. Other Information

NFPA Ratings: Health: 3 Flammability: 0 Reactivity: 0
Label Hazard Warning:
DANGER! MAY BE FATAL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED. AFFECTS RESPIRATORY SYSTEM, HEART, SKELETON, CIRCULATORY SYSTEM, CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AND KIDNEYS. CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. IRRITATION EFFECTS MAY BE DELAYED.
Label Precautions:
Do not breathe dust.
Keep container closed.
Use only with adequate ventilation.
Wash thoroughly after handling.
Avoid contact with eyes, skin and clothing.
Label First Aid:

Mystery Substance Found in Chinese Fluoride Added to Massachusetts Water

Alex Jones: Sodium Fluoride and the Forced Drugging of America

**Jaydon** · 03-16-2010, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

Why is SODIUM FLUORIDE in our water supply again ?

Good question, have the answer?

**Axiom** · 03-17-2010, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by Jaydon

Good question, have the answer?

Because they want to put a known toxin into our water supply ?

12-02-2008, 03:42 PM	#16 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Axiom It's related because the CONSEQUENCES are the same ! What consequences? So you are saying the Nazi's wanted to improve the teeth of their prisoners (because that is the consequence of consuming fluoride in water)? That just seems silly to me. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

12-02-2008, 09:14 PM	#17 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Arrogant-One What consequences? So you are saying the Nazi's wanted to improve the teeth of their prisoners (because that is the consequence of consuming fluoride in water)? That just seems silly to me. ok, so why did the nazis put sodium flouride in the prisoner's water supply ?

12-07-2008, 09:21 PM	#18 (permalink)
Axiom Support Group Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Laku, Ishmaelia Posts: 141	Originally Posted by Axiom ok, so why did the nazis put sodium flouride in the prisoner's water supply ? Maybe because that's what happens in war?

12-07-2008, 11:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Thomas Bishop Maybe because that's what happens in war? ..with what desired outcome ?

01-15-2009, 03:17 PM	#21 (permalink)
AzzX Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 109	Well as long as it makes the water better than this which happens far too often: __________________ azzx.org ozsource

12-08-2008, 06:01 PM	#20 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498

01-15-2009, 04:53 PM	#22 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by AzzX Well as long as it makes the water better than this which happens far too often: Not a good look in that water. Sometimes it is because the pipes within the internal boundary are corroded. But whatever, it is not a good look I agree. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

01-15-2009, 05:12 PM	#23 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by MOZ Not a good look in that water. Sometimes it is because the pipes within the internal boundary are corroded. But whatever, it is not a good look I agree. It might be safe to drink even though it looks bad! __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

01-15-2009, 05:15 PM	#24 (permalink)
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 268	Originally Posted by MOZ Not a good look in that water. Sometimes it is because the pipes within the internal boundary are corroded. But whatever, it is not a good look I agree. It looks like rust. I am sure glad my dad bought a really good water filter so we don't drink that yuk.

11-17-2009, 06:49 PM	#25 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Fluoridation Increases Infant Death Rates \| Voxy.co.nz __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

12-18-2009, 11:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Rookedhampton Fluoride's here but Graham's gone \| Rockhampton News \| Local News in Rockhampton \| Rockhampton Morning Bulletin Around the world most people have learned that putting fluoride in our drinking water is a hoax and is dangerous to health. Politicians, acting like dictators, refuse to offer a choice by referendum because in 80% of elections, people reject fluoridation. One has to follow the money trail to understand why. When the fertilitzer companies, and others, clean their smokestacks, they bag the waste fluoride chemical, ( Hydrofluorosilicic Acid), which contains lead, mercury, arsenic, etc. and sell it to communities to add to our water systems. The Government tries to convince us that it does not harm us if it is diluted enough. Who benefits-------follow the money! Those promoting fluoridation simply refuse to read the current research showing it is ineffective and dangerous to health. Go to (Fluoride Action Network) and read several scientific articles. Read the letter from Dr. Hardy Limeback ( DDS, PhD Biochemistry) --- Head, Preventive Dentistry, University of Toronto entitled "Why I am now officially opposed to adding fluoride to drinking water" He was the principal research advisor to the Canadian Dental Asociation for over 10 years in promoting fluoridation. His letter is an apology to other dentists and the public. Dr. Limeback includes over 140 Research studies, including: Increased risk of bone cancer -- 13 studies Lead, arsenic, radium contaminants causing toxic water -- 10 studies Link with fluoride and other cancer -- 12 Fluoride causes birth defects -- 5 Fluoride affects the immune systems -- 12 Fluoride is neurotoxic (brain, nerves, lowering IQ) -- 11 Etc. Also see the petition signed by over 2600 professionals opposing fluoridation. __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

02-06-2010, 11:43 PM	#27 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	WINDS - Fluoride a Toxic Waste REFERENCES: 1. "Fluoride, Teeth and the Atomic Bomb", Griffiths & Bryson, 1997. Author Griffiths indicated that this URL contains an accurate reproduction of their article. 2. John R. Lee, MD, article: "The Truth About Mandatory Fluoridation", April 15, 1995. 3. "Review of Fluoride Benefits and Risks", Department of Health and Human Services, February 1991, p. 7 & p. 31. 4. The Journal of the Canadian Dental Association, Vol. 53, pp 763-765, 1987. 5. "Neurotoxicity of Sodium Fluoride in Rats", Mullenix, P. Neurotoxicology and Teratology", 17(2), 1995. 6. The New England Journal of Medicine -- January 8, 1998 -- Volume 338, Number 2 [SPECIAL ARTICLE] "Conflict of Interest in the Debate over Calcium-Channel Antagonists", Henry Thomas Stelfox, Grace Chua, Keith O'Rourke, Allan S. Detsky. 7. Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences, Vol. 825 "Neuroprotective Agents, Third International Conference." Title: "Toxin-Induced Blood Vessel Inclusion caused by the Chronic Administration of Aluminum and Sodium Fluoride and their Implication for Dementia." Robert. L. Isaacson, et al, p. 152-166. Further reading: FLUORIDE: Protected Pollutant or Panacea? A very extensive source for scientific papers published on fluoridation Robert J. Carton, Ph.D., Former EPA scientist. Article: "Corruption and Fraud at the EPA" The following resources appear valid but The WINDS was unable to fully verify their authenticity and therefore make no claims for such, with the exception that this office has ascertained that Dr. William L. Marcus is currently employed by the EPA. Richard G. Foulkes, M.D., Article:"Celebration or Shame? Fifty Years of Fluoridation (1945-1995)" William L. Marcus, Ph.D., Senior Science Advisor, Office of Science and Technology, U.S. Environmental Protection Agency. Letter. __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

03-16-2010, 06:19 PM	#28 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Why is SODIUM FLUORIDE in our water supply again ? 16. Other Information NFPA Ratings: Health: 3 Flammability: 0 Reactivity: 0 Label Hazard Warning: DANGER! MAY BE FATAL IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED. AFFECTS RESPIRATORY SYSTEM, HEART, SKELETON, CIRCULATORY SYSTEM, CENTRAL NERVOUS SYSTEM AND KIDNEYS. CAUSES IRRITATION TO SKIN, EYES AND RESPIRATORY TRACT. IRRITATION EFFECTS MAY BE DELAYED. Label Precautions: Do not breathe dust. Keep container closed. Use only with adequate ventilation. Wash thoroughly after handling. Avoid contact with eyes, skin and clothing. Label First Aid: Mystery Substance Found in Chinese Fluoride Added to Massachusetts Water Alex Jones: Sodium Fluoride and the Forced Drugging of America __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

03-16-2010, 08:48 PM	#29 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,101 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	Originally Posted by Axiom Why is SODIUM FLUORIDE in our water supply again ? Good question, have the answer?

03-17-2010, 12:02 AM	#30 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Jaydon Good question, have the answer? Because they want to put a known toxin into our water supply ? __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

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