they simply have somewhat of a penchant for staying in the background .

You have the same penchant when comes to challenging apartheidt sport - sellout and cop out

again , you question , the mind of god .

What does not exist cannot possess mind.

INFO WARS : DECODING REALITY

To those who dont accept truth is that which is presented via our mainstream culture,schooling and media.
To those willing to question consensus reality.
To those with an objective clear and open mind.
To those willing to investigate, research,study and explore the boundaries of said 'human reality'.
I invite you to come on a journey, a confronting trek to the very heart of human reality.
A reality derived via INFORMATION.

How deep and sound is the information we receive ?
Should we be concerned about the quality of our information and who controls it ?
Do you look at your nightly news ,thinking there has to be more important news than this going on ?
Is quality information important when inter-relating with the world around you ?
If knowledge is power ,then, is information important ?

How informed are you ?
A QUICK QUIZ

Tick the following , if you know what they are

1.NAFTA
2.NAU
3.Amero
2.Operation Northwood
3.Bilderberg Group
4.False Flag
5.Tavistock Institute
6.Tuskeegee Experiment
7.Eugenics
8.Ron Paul
9.Gulf Of Tonkin Incident
10.MK Ultra

How did you go?
Curious? Want to learn more ?

-> Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

I got 6/10. I am familiar with infowars and most of it is just bullshit fed for profit, fame, or whatever on Alex Jones' part.

Ever think that while governments, etc. may not be 100% truthful that maybe infowars isn't either?

As a New Yorker I find his 9/11 theories complete nonsense and it is really unfortunate that anyone would even think that.

The world is not a conspiracy, it is just self interested beings trying to achieve what they want to see.

You would have got 10/10 if you were informed !
Thats my point !
I'm proving that you will be far better informed by reading infowars or listening to alex jones than you will ever be from the MSM .
This accusation:"most of it is just bullshit fed for profit, fame, or whatever on Alex Jones' part" is just unsubstantiated hyperbole.
What do you think the MSM do anyway ???
Is Alex not allowed to make a profit ??
infowars.com provide a collection of articles from hundreds of different sources , its the emphasis and angle they bring that allows for a more complete informed appraisal of current events and investigations of their underpinning background realities .

of course !
thats obvious .
i have only ever maintained that you will be far better informed by alex jones than you will from all other msm combined !

why nonsense ?
was operation northwoods plan , nonsense ?
are false flags in history , nonsense ??

what could be more nonsensical than cave directed boxcutters defeating a trillion dollar defense system ?
stop buying your govt/media propaganda !
(Be very happy to discuss any of this in the "9/11" thread ...latest stories there now ! )

That is a contradiction .

Just imagine if you will the most powerful beings on the planet , with their self interest , as you say .
Guess what ? They cooperate as well as compete like any other peer group , to achieve what they "want to see".
...and some of this cooperation is hidden (because exposure would be contrary to their plan), hence it is called a conspiracy .

Or do you a ) doubt the reality of a globalised governance agenda or b) that this agenda has been largely hidden from the masses over the years ?

I am sure I can name 10 organizations/leaders/movements that you do not know either. That does not mean I am uninformed, but just that I am no omniscient.

And of course Alex Jones should be entitled to make a profit; I am just saying that his followers should be more wary. And trust me, I am not MSM fan either- I take all reporting with a grain of salt.

I would beg to differ. Some of Alex Jones' theories are so far-fetched that one might thing they were from a story book. A lot of the "proof" he gives isn't real proof but just speculation and often relies on the opposition proving a negative, when in reality the burden of proof is on him and his organization.

The proof isn't there to support his ideas. Furthermore, the proof is there against his ideas. Even logically-thinking, the 9-11 attacks were very in-line with virtually every other suicide attack attempt since the 80s. Robert Pape had a great piece on that. (By the way, Ron Paul has actually praised him for that work and on a side note, Paul does not believe the conspiracy b.s. that Alex Jones' supporters want him to believe.)

There are more conflicting interests among these people that stop them from collaborating in that way. Again, the burden of proof lies with those who claim these secret things exist.

a) Definitely doubt that. There is a clear power struggle among states, not a conspiracy among those states to play out a storyboard and suppress the lower classes./movements

b) Do I doubt it's been hidden? No, because I don't think it exists. Sure there might be a handful of people trying to accomplish such things, but I do not think it has been done or ever will.

Thank you for introducing this classic example of brainwashed thinking . Brainwashed thinking is very easy to identify . It involves the complete non addressing of the point in such an extraordinary manner , that brainwashing is the only known model that explains it .

ok, here's the break down for you ,

NAMING 10 organizations/leaders/movements IS NOT THE SAME AS NAMING 10 OBVIOUSLY NEWS WORTHY STORIES THAT GO LARGELY UN -REPORTED !

Well bravo , thats my standpoint too .
but i have been studying the media/consensus reality nexus full time for the last 7 yrs .

i invite you to be specific , i would be only to happy to respond .

ron paul is politico savvy , he knows what ppl like you would say if he was overtly pro a new 9/11 investigation !
Again please be specific .

which we have provided by the mountain load , and you provide zip , zero ,nothing (see above 2 points to emphasise this point)

excuse me,but what exactly have you read ?

yep, you're not thinking , in an informed manner

perhaps you can tell me what the "new world order" is, as referred to by the following , blair , bushes , brown ,w.clinton , vincente fox ??

Being "newsworthy" is a matter of opinion. I do not think all of those things are newsworthy because I think some of them are hoaxes (including some of the 6 I know of.)

What's your point with the 7 years thing? There are people that have been studying the news media their entire lives who would disagree with you. I am not saying that makes them necessarily right, but that the 7 years is just irrelevant.

From 9-11 to the New World Order conspiracies, they are littered with false assumptions and fake reporting. Just Google Alex Jones' name and you are bound to find a lot of evidence. Even in his public relations, etc. it becomes clear that he is a liar and a fraud. I will find some links for you later if you want some.

You will probably be surprised to know that I am a Ron Paul supporter and Campaign for Liberty guy. He believes in the idea of blowback and his whole foreign policy approach is based on anti-war values. Read his books, he clearly does not believe Jones' b.s. Taking it back further, look at the idealogy and the people he surrounded himself with- Rothbard, etc. and you will see that they have no room for such nonsense.

I really don't know where Alex Jones' supporters got this idea that Paul believes his b.s.- I am guessing just because Jones said he supports Paul that you all followed blindly as you do in the videos. As a Paul supporter and someone who loves this country, I really wish Jones had picked another candidate to support- the conspiracy theorists only hurt the cause.

If you truly did provide adequate evidence, your views would be accepted by many more. You can deny it as long as you want and live in this bubble you have created yourself, but saying you are right over and over again doesn't make you right. (and if you genuinely think you have proved it, I suggest you look at the scientific method and how scientific papers must be presented in order to be accepted as truth.

What exactly do you mean? What books have I read and pertaining to what topic?

Weak argument, I can say the same about you.

The New World Order has been brought up time and time again over the last few decades by conspiracy theorists, trying to prove themselves right. They take words that politicians say and twist them to show that what they said was right before (without any proof) is in fact right. That is your way of showing something is true, when in reality that sort of "proof" would be laughed at in the scientific community or in a court of law. What Bush, etc. said of the New World Order was often completely different than what conspiracy theorists have said and in reality, no such world-wide conspiracy even exists.

You really think China, India, Brazil, etc. are collaborating with the US and Europe to become one?

to add if i may ; consistent within the context of the last few posts :

Are you saying i don't exist ?

can you prove otherwise?

you mean , prove a negative ?