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**Axiom** · 11-14-2007, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

From http://infowars.net/articles/novembe...1107terror.htm

This is true, isn't it? But that's OK because it is also a breeding ground for propaganda debunkers.

Hence the INFORMATION WAR !
and WE ARE ON THE MARCH !

**Just2Good** · 11-14-2007, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

Hence the INFORMATION WAR !
and WE ARE ON THE MARCH !

Axiom

I don't have time to read a whole website, but I want to continue learning about these strange forces that are trying to control peoples minds.

What are some other organizations I need to be leery of?

AO

**Axiom** · 11-14-2007, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

Axiom

I don't have time to read a whole website, but I want to continue learning about these strange forces that are trying to control peoples minds.

This requires time my friend, im willing to give you the well sorted and filtered information, but i cannot simply implant the knowledge into you via veri chip !

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

What are some other organizations I need to be leery of?

AO

no.1 mainstream media (the frontline enemy)

2. globalist banks
3.multi national corporations
4. neo cons
5.socialist gatekeepers

**Axiom** · 11-14-2007, 09:16 PM

"Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.” — Abraham Lincoln

**Just2Good** · 11-15-2007, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

"Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.” — Abraham Lincoln

Well, what are the relevant facts Axiom? Do you know what the relevant facts are? I need someone to teach me. Where do I start? What is fact #1?

AO

**Axiom** · 11-15-2007, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

What is fact #1?

AO

That the mass media grossly ill-informs us.

eg.
No Law Says Parents Have To Get Their Children Vaccinated
Government and media propaganda hoax continues as parents in Maryland hoodwinked and threatened into believing it is the law to vaccinate kids, error-strewn Fox news report relays disinformation
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...107_no_law.htm

http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/vaccines/index.htm

Also the new vaccine to treat drug addicts- it's a cancer virus that atacks the brain, eating part of it !
i wont give a link to this , i will set this as homework !

**Firegoat7** · 12-14-2007, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

This requires time my friend, im willing to give you the well sorted and filtered information, but i cannot simply implant the knowledge into you via veri chip !
no.1 mainstream media (the frontline enemy)

2. globalist banks
3.multi national corporations
4. neo cons
5.socialist gatekeepers

I have to say I need to challenge these assertions Axiom.

Lets test the case with this link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Outcomes

Now utilising your 5 categories who is the real enemy? and for what reasons?

cheers Fg7

**Axiom** · 12-14-2007, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

I have to say I need to challenge these assertions Axiom.

Lets test the case with this link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Outcomes

Now utilising your 5 categories who is the real enemy? and for what reasons?

cheers Fg7

Yes there exist mercenary military operatives, employed by 2. and 3. , ignored by 1. , and unknowingly supported by 4. and 5.

**Just2Good** · 12-14-2007, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

Also the new vaccine to treat drug addicts- it's a cancer virus that atacks the brain, eating part of it !
i wont give a link to this , i will set this as homework !

http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/...05/janda1.html

That was easy homework Axiom!

**conza88** · 01-11-2008, 12:24 AM

7/10! OMG.... a Ron Paul supporter?
ACE.!

And AJ for the win!

**Axiom** · 01-27-2008, 03:20 AM

**Iconoclast** · 01-27-2008, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Axiom

That the mass media grossly ill-informs us.

Yes it does. And misinforms us. And uninforms us. But the first question is not "what will we do about it," but "does it matter?"

To play the Devils advocate, I will say that most westerners are mostly satisfied most of the time with most of their lives. This has been the case since the end of WWII. In that time (and before it) the media has always been a tool of the ruling elite. So, where is the problem?

**MOZ** · 01-28-2008, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

That the mass media grossly ill-informs us.

...

I think I can buy this.
I can't buy Matt's suggestion to just ignore the issue.

Surely your approach to cast your reading net widely is more appropriate.

Keep the links coming mate.

MOZ*

**Axiom** · 01-28-2008, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

I think I can buy this.
I can't buy Matt's suggestion to just ignore the issue.

Surely your approach to cast your reading net widely is more appropriate.

Keep the links coming mate.

MOZ*

thankyou moz
if you ignore the issue , more and more advantage is taken of the population.
awareness is the key, being truly informed is paramount if one is to make more informed decisions,politically, or otherwise.

ignoring is the worst possible thing to do.
im glad matt at least accepts the reality of a grossly ill informing media , that is something, many would not even accept that much.
but it is a very dangerously ill informing media, and the very least we can do is speak up about it, to family,friends,colleagues etc

silence on this is their biggest ally.
it does take some social bravery ,yes, but all the facts and argument of truth is on our side,and it makes one feel good to do good , rather than passively accept 'evil' (for want of a better word)

**Axiom** · 01-28-2008, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham

I've answered your questioning of the rule.

where?
ditch the rule its patently silly, its highly subjective, its bound to catch me out again, i should be allowed to make such innocent enquiries as the film one, i agree to not in anyway remotely over do it (i get that! whats the problem?)

Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham

Concerning your objection to the rule that it is unclear, .

im asking for the rationale ,given that im more than happy and have been to not transgress beyond what is reasonable.

Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham

Otherwise, if unsure, just don't raise it in the shoutbox. You have a thread you can raise it on instead. Simple.

not the point, im questioning the rationale for the rule itself, arguing its obsolete

Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham

It may be news to you but whether or not you are allowed to discuss conspiracy-theory related issues in the shoutbox is not one of the world's 1000 most pressing human rights issues.

ok, so ditch the silly rule !

Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham

And yes, I agree with Bill's warning above - stop repeating yourself on this issue.

the only repetition comes from me trying to make myself understood

11-14-2007, 03:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Iconoclast From http://infowars.net/articles/novembe...1107terror.htm This is true, isn't it? But that's OK because it is also a breeding ground for propaganda debunkers. Hence the INFORMATION WAR ! and WE ARE ON THE MARCH !

11-14-2007, 07:29 PM	#17 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,054 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Axiom Delivers the Truth! Originally Posted by Axiom Hence the INFORMATION WAR ! and WE ARE ON THE MARCH ! Axiom I don't have time to read a whole website, but I want to continue learning about these strange forces that are trying to control peoples minds. What are some other organizations I need to be leery of? AO __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-14-2007, 09:01 PM	#18 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Arrogant-One Axiom I don't have time to read a whole website, but I want to continue learning about these strange forces that are trying to control peoples minds. This requires time my friend, im willing to give you the well sorted and filtered information, but i cannot simply implant the knowledge into you via veri chip ! Originally Posted by Arrogant-One What are some other organizations I need to be leery of? AO no.1 mainstream media (the frontline enemy) 2. globalist banks 3.multi national corporations 4. neo cons 5.socialist gatekeepers

11-14-2007, 09:16 PM	#19 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Properly Informed "Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.” — Abraham Lincoln

11-15-2007, 02:35 PM	#20 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,054 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Axiom "Let the people know the facts and the country will be safe.” — Abraham Lincoln Well, what are the relevant facts Axiom? Do you know what the relevant facts are? I need someone to teach me. Where do I start? What is fact #1? AO __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-15-2007, 04:05 PM	#21 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Arrogant-One What is fact #1? AO That the mass media grossly ill-informs us. eg. No Law Says Parents Have To Get Their Children Vaccinated Government and media propaganda hoax continues as parents in Maryland hoodwinked and threatened into believing it is the law to vaccinate kids, error-strewn Fox news report relays disinformation http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...107_no_law.htm http://www.prisonplanet.com/archives/vaccines/index.htm Also the new vaccine to treat drug addicts- it's a cancer virus that atacks the brain, eating part of it ! i wont give a link to this , i will set this as homework ! Last edited by Axiom : 11-15-2007 at 08:26 PM

12-14-2007, 02:07 PM	#22 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 1,924 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by Axiom This requires time my friend, im willing to give you the well sorted and filtered information, but i cannot simply implant the knowledge into you via veri chip ! no.1 mainstream media (the frontline enemy) 2. globalist banks 3.multi national corporations 4. neo cons 5.socialist gatekeepers I have to say I need to challenge these assertions Axiom. Lets test the case with this link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Outcomes Now utilising your 5 categories who is the real enemy? and for what reasons? cheers Fg7

12-14-2007, 05:03 PM	#23 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 I have to say I need to challenge these assertions Axiom. Lets test the case with this link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Outcomes Now utilising your 5 categories who is the real enemy? and for what reasons? cheers Fg7 Yes there exist mercenary military operatives, employed by 2. and 3. , ignored by 1. , and unknowingly supported by 4. and 5.

12-14-2007, 07:31 PM	#24 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,054 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Axiom Also the new vaccine to treat drug addicts- it's a cancer virus that atacks the brain, eating part of it ! i wont give a link to this , i will set this as homework ! http://www.scripps.edu/newsandviews/...05/janda1.html That was easy homework Axiom! __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

01-11-2008, 12:24 AM	#25 (permalink)
conza88 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3	7/10! OMG.... a Ron Paul supporter? ACE.! And AJ for the win!

01-27-2008, 03:20 AM	#26 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Why Fight An Information War ?

01-27-2008, 11:26 AM	#27 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by Axiom That the mass media grossly ill-informs us. Yes it does. And misinforms us. And uninforms us. But the first question is not "what will we do about it," but "does it matter?" To play the Devils advocate, I will say that most westerners are mostly satisfied most of the time with most of their lives. This has been the case since the end of WWII. In that time (and before it) the media has always been a tool of the ruling elite. So, where is the problem? __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

01-28-2008, 09:54 PM	#28 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,495	Originally Posted by Axiom That the mass media grossly ill-informs us. ... I think I can buy this. I can't buy Matt's suggestion to just ignore the issue. Surely your approach to cast your reading net widely is more appropriate. Keep the links coming mate. MOZ* __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

01-28-2008, 11:25 PM	#29 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by MOZ I think I can buy this. I can't buy Matt's suggestion to just ignore the issue. Surely your approach to cast your reading net widely is more appropriate. Keep the links coming mate. MOZ* thankyou moz if you ignore the issue , more and more advantage is taken of the population. awareness is the key, being truly informed is paramount if one is to make more informed decisions,politically, or otherwise. ignoring is the worst possible thing to do. im glad matt at least accepts the reality of a grossly ill informing media , that is something, many would not even accept that much. but it is a very dangerously ill informing media, and the very least we can do is speak up about it, to family,friends,colleagues etc silence on this is their biggest ally. it does take some social bravery ,yes, but all the facts and argument of truth is on our side,and it makes one feel good to do good , rather than passively accept 'evil' (for want of a better word)

01-28-2008, 11:42 PM	#30 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	My Last Post - Deleted From Axe Fallen Thread Cc Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham I've answered your questioning of the rule. where? ditch the rule its patently silly, its highly subjective, its bound to catch me out again, i should be allowed to make such innocent enquiries as the film one, i agree to not in anyway remotely over do it (i get that! whats the problem?) Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham Concerning your objection to the rule that it is unclear, . im asking for the rationale ,given that im more than happy and have been to not transgress beyond what is reasonable. Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham Otherwise, if unsure, just don't raise it in the shoutbox. You have a thread you can raise it on instead. Simple. not the point, im questioning the rationale for the rule itself, arguing its obsolete Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham It may be news to you but whether or not you are allowed to discuss conspiracy-theory related issues in the shoutbox is not one of the world's 1000 most pressing human rights issues. ok, so ditch the silly rule ! Originally Posted by Kevin Bonham And yes, I agree with Bill's warning above - stop repeating yourself on this issue. the only repetition comes from me trying to make myself understood

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