antichrist

But why do the Palestinians have to compromise on anything? Dont they have equal rights to other people around the world? What right does the UN have to create a colonialist power (Israel)? To rob land etc etc! Europe created the M/E problem with the Holocaust so it is theirs to fix and compromise on, not the Palestinians. The Jewish leaders in Europe were offered other homelands, even in Australia but rejected such, even to the point they let many more Jews die in gas chambers rather than compromise on where their homeland will be. This is a great crime that is unspoken because the victims are dead. There are two guilty parties the Nazis and the Jewish leaders. The major powers that set up Israel are guilty of turning away Jewish refugees during the Nazi era, they are guilty as well, not the Palestinians. The Palestinians were against massive immigration due to land disputes as well the the shocking attitude of European Jews to Palestinians and even to M/E Jews. They were racist, acted superior, arrogant etc. Israel is almost full of such people now if you were to meet Israelis. I have met many. They may actually believe they are God's Chosen People, I have no idea. If they were not that way they would not have exasperated the problem in Palestine by stealing more and more land etc etc

Remember the motto: there is no peace without justice

antichrist

There were minor Arab massacres of Jews in Palestine and it was due to what I mentioned above, the European Jews being total ar..holes. I even seen an Israeli movie about it on SBS, how arrogant, rude etc. Just like many I have met in Australia.

There could be anti-Jewish propaganda now in Islamic schools, but what do you expect after 60 years of Zionism Nazism.

The Jews whilst in enclosed ghettos in Europe used terrorist tactics against the German forces, exactly the same as the Palestinians use in Jewish-imposed ghettoes in Israel and West Bank and Gaza.

If the Mufti sided with Hitler maybe it was because of the hatred that locals had acquired for the arrogant European Jews who were invading Palestine. The same people are still doing the same tricks now, stealing more land and treating Palestinians like poop. Consistency is their virtue.

Of course Israel will keep peace with Egypt, it is in it's own interest to do so. And Egypt is not part of the God's gift to the ancient Hebrews.

The biggest con trick in history that Zionists are trying to pull over the world. What stupid God is there to back up their claim - the one who left to die under the Nazis. That is why the Jews rely on their own resources to survive - they know that relying on a god is totally useless and self defeating - but still valuable currency for bluffing the rest of the world with - the Promised Land concept.

So what if Palestine was the Jewish passover for 1800 or even 2800 years. If we are going to recognise ""land rights"" after such a gap then other displaced peoples all over the world have the same rights. That is the American natives can tell the whites to piss off, put them in concentration camps etc etc. The same can go for Aussie Aborigines. We know that Oz Aborigines have been in Oz for between 50,000 and 100,000 years and had constant occupancy here. Where the Hebrews only had a ""passing"" connection with Palestine. It is not their homeland, back of Iraq is.


If the Arabs recognise a Jewish state it means that Right of Return can be denied to millons of Palestinian refugees - that is cementing in more injustice. The importance is in the fine detail and fine print.

The modern Jewish state until about 20 years ago was quite secular, but since Rabins assassination by Zionist extremist, it has gone Nazi. And the Nazis are winning there. Which is why the world is totally turning off Israel except those countries that have a extremely well funded and connected Jewish lobby, i.e, Australia and USA.


But the tides are slowly turning.
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AC, when the police detained you after your protest, what happened then?

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antichrist

which arrest? I have had so many of them - you would have made a fortune out of me

antichrist

Just for the sake of arguing a minor point....

Zionism and Nazism are extreme racist theories

Zionism and Nazism are extreme nationalist theories

Zionism and Nazism both call on a higher power for authority

Zionism and Nazism both consider their races superior to other people and others being degenerates (similar to first)

Zionism and Nazism both consider themselves a persecuted, suffering people needing redemption

Zionism and Nazism both have a Holy Book

Zionism and Nazism both have saviours

Zionists and Nazists both want to steal other people's land and resources
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antichrist

If Jesus was born today 'Bethlehem would be closed'

If Jesus was born today he would not gave got anywhere near Bethlehem due to Israeli checkpoints, walls, curfews, IDs etc


If Jesus was born today 'Bethlehem would be closed'
Phoebe Greenwood

BETHLEHEM: If Joseph and Mary were making their way to Bethlehem today, the Christmas story would be a little different, says Father Ibrahim Shomali, a parish priest in the town. The couple would struggle to get into the city, let alone find a hotel room.

''If Jesus were to come this year, Bethlehem would be closed,'' says the priest of Bethlehem's Beit Jala parish. ''He would either have to be born at a checkpoint or at the separation wall. Mary and Joseph would have needed Israeli permission - or to have been tourists.

''This really is the big problem for Palestinians in Bethlehem: what will happen when they close us off completely?''
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Bethlehem swells with pride every Christmas. Manger Square is transformed into a grotto of lights and stalls crowned by a towering Christmas tree. Strings of illuminated angels, stars and bells festoon the streets. But just a few minutes' drive to the north, the festive atmosphere stops.

A strip of Israeli settlements built on 18 square kilometres of what was once northern Bethlehem threatens to cut the city off from its historic twin, Jerusalem.

To the Israeli authorities, these have been neighbourhoods of Jerusalem since 1967. One of the settlements, Har Homa, is built on land where angels are said to have announced the birth of Christ to local shepherds. A narrow corridor of land between Har Homa and another settlement, Gilo, still connects Bethlehem to Jerusalem, but the construction of Givat Hamatos, a settlement announced in October, will fill this in a matter of years.

The European Union foreign affairs chief, Catherine Ashton, warned the construction of Givat Hamatos was ''of particular concern as [it] would cut the geographic contiguity between Jerusalem and Bethlehem''.

After the four EU members who sit on the UN Security Council - Britain, France, Germany and Portugal - this week issued a statement condemning the construction of settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, Israel's foreign ministry responded by advising them to concentrate their efforts on restarting direct talks between Israel and the Palestinians, instead of interfering in Israel's internal affairs.

Concern is not slowing Israel's progress. Last week, 500 new units were approved for Har Homa and a further 348 in Betar Illit, on Bethlehem's western boundary.

The separation wall already prevents Palestinians from entering Jerusalem from the town without an Israeli permit. But the settlements will permanently change the geography: even if a peace agreement razes the separation wall, the two cities will remain divided.

The Israeli activist Hagit Ofran, the director of Peace Now's Settlements Watch project, reads a clear political intention in Israel's plans: ''These efforts are being made to prevent a possible two-state solution because in order for that to work, you would need a viable Palestinian state with its capital in East Jerusalem.

''The more Israel is building, the higher the price of a Palestinian state is becoming.''

Israeli officials say the barrier has significantly contributed to a reduction in terrorist attacks and fills a crucial role in Israel's security apparatus.

Guardian News & Media, Tribune Media

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/if-jesus...#ixzz1hXOelkp7
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and mr so & so from over there who does not want his name mentioned here in vain or in slander accused me of being biased against Israel concerning the Palestinians.

I'd kidnap Israeli soldiers if I were Palestinian - Shalit

Well Mr Snail Catcher, in the SMH yesterday, father of soldier Shalit who was kidnapped for years and exchanged for a thousand prisoners has come out and said that if he was a Palestinian he would be doing exactly the same, that is kidnapping Israeli soldiers to get their land back. And he added that was exactly what the pre-Israeli Jewish terrorist gangs did to British soldiers to get Israel state created in the first place.

So Shalit and I are arm in arm on the Israel/Palestinian issue and you Mr Snail Catcher should publicly apologise for publically calling me biased on the issue.

antichrist

[Today 01:36 PM] antichrist: Well KB, the question begs, what happens when the Palestinians kill an Israeli soldier? what is Pa Shalit's positon then when he admits their cause could be justified? And killing is worse than kidnapping or capturing for prisoner exchange. He has begged more questions than he has answered. I will t/f to thread for record.
[Today 01:18 PM] antichrist: well are you going to apologises for calling me biased when the soldiers own father agrees with me substantially?


[Today 01:17 PM] antichrist: Yeah, Dr, (sorry about that) I reckon that invitation to economic sanctions was due to the reporters persistence in trying to pin him down on what he would do, as stated in the article, as he is an aspiring pollie he can't be seen to be pro-Palestinian. But the gist of what he believes and what I say are not that far apart, i.e., the justice of Palestinians winning their land back via violence if there is no other way, as have been proven over 60 years.


[Today 01:12 PM] Kevin Bonham: PS Dr Snail Catcher to you

[Today 01:11 PM] Kevin Bonham: also note that Shalit snr is himself an aspiring politician for the opposition Labour Party there

[Today 01:10 PM] Kevin Bonham: he said Netanyahu should have secured his son's release using economic sanctions against Gaza. is that something you would support?

antichrist

[Today 03:05 PM] Kevin Bonham: i've seen nothing here that should cause me to revisit my previous comment, not even close

[Today 03:04 PM] Kevin Bonham: note that when asked if he would negotiate with Hamas he only gave a conditional yes - conditional on them recognising Israel as a Jewish state

[Today 03:03 PM] Kevin Bonham: it's not even clear to me that Shalit snr was commending the Palestinian cause as opposed to saying that their actions made tactical sense