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Old 08-07-2011, 06:58 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thank you Icon , it certainly is a site full of curious and interesting tid bits , but it still appears fairly mainstream .
I agree, it is mainstream. However, it is not propaganda. It is mostly interesting views of the same stuff we tend to wrongly catagorise as left/right/green/red/liberty/religious et cetera. It tends to "compare and contrast" between all of these opposing isms.

It is also good to find what we have in common rather than only where we disagree.
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Old 08-07-2011, 07:01 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I have found this a quick test as to how informing a particular media is or is not .
Dude, all this test does is cull out sources that you might not agree with. You need to spread your net wider.
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Dude, all this test does is cull out sources that you might not agree with.
Missed the point .
Strawman .

It has nothing to do with agreeing or not agreeing but entirely to do with a quick convenient sieve , filter or acid test to determine the level of importance of various news information sites .

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You need to spread your net wider.
No it is you that need to spread your net wider away from relative trivia towards real , significant and important news stories .
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I agree, it is mainstream. However, it is not propaganda.
and neither are these propaganda , they are FACTS , manifestly under-reported FACTS . Each of them , inherently by definition , profoundly news worthy . No spin required !:
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It is mostly interesting views of the same stuff we tend to wrongly catagorise as left/right/green/red/liberty/religious et cetera. It tends to "compare and contrast" between all of these opposing isms.

It is also good to find what we have in common rather than only where we disagree.
Agreed
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and neither are these propaganda , they are FACTS , manifestly under-reported FACTS . Each of them , inherently by definition , profoundly news worthy . No spin required !:
operation northwoods
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codex ailimentarius
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operation gladio
common purpose !
I have no doubt that the list above is news worthy. Further, I have no doubt that some (or all) of them have been purposely avoided. However, there are other untold stories that are also avoided. The stories I refer to are those that expose the insane. Who are they? They whip up hysteria over fluoride and sun spots. They see giants with nukes where there are pigmies with darts. They filter their own news.
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I have no doubt that the list above is news worthy. Further, I have no doubt that some (or all) of them have been purposely avoided.
Well done , that is far more than most will admit .

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However, there are other untold stories that are also avoided.
Of course there are , but at what level of non-revelation ?. Wasn't it you at some stage telling me that major stories can't be kept quiet because of the likelihood of someone leaking ?




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The stories I refer to are those that expose the insane. Who are they? They whip up hysteria over fluoride
If you read at infowars you would see stories of various local govts around the world stopping the use of the toxin sodium flouride ( not calcium flouride !) , no hysteria just factual real news !

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and sun spots.They see giants with nukes where there are pigmies with darts. They filter their own news.
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There still seem to be those amongst us who cannot recognise a searching, investigative cutting edge piece of journalism yet ( having been reared on lies and pap all their lives ). KB and Fowls , being cases in point .
So here is a current selection , that might help them . Remember the key is to CONTRAST AND COMPARE with your news sources , see how you go !


Prison Planet.com ->

Admit To Arming, Training Libyan Rebels, Forcing Regime Change

Steve Watson | International mandate to “protect” civilians is and always was a complete hoax.
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Engdahl: Oil-field fight, tribal power-grab part of post-Gaddafi greed-fest

RT | F. William Engdahl thinks the struggle for Libyan oil is the real bottom line of the whole NATO operation.
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NATO Hands Terrorists Who Killed U.S. Troops Control of Libya

Paul Joseph Watson | Al-Qaeda gets new home as rebels seize Tripoli.
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Gaddafi defiant as tanks defend compound – but where is leader?

London Metro | Forces loyal to Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi have stationed tanks near his compound in central Tripoli.
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Globalist Richard Haas Calls for NATO Occupation of Libya

Tony Cartalucci | The Financial Times has featured an editorial penned by Council on Foreign Relations president Richard Haas titled, “Libya Now Needs Boots on the Ground”.
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LIVE FROM TRIPOLI. Western Media Complicit in NATO’s “Humanitarian Bloodbath”

Mahdi Darius Nazemroaya | Foreign journalists trapped in deserted hotel in Tripoli.
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NATO Loots Libyan Gold As Tripoli Falls

Paul Joseph Watson | As we reported 6 weeks ago, final assault was planned before September deadline.
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Head of Libyan Security Services calls out NATO for supporting al Qaeda

Activist Post | The American “war on terror” is a sham designed to stripfreedoms from Americans while consolidating wealth and power into the hands of the elite.
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The Battle For Libya Is Almost Over… As Is The Battle For Its 144 Tons Of Gold

Zero Hedge | Following a 6 month stalemate in which neither side had attained any advantage, it suddenly took just a few days for the Libyan rebel forces to steamroll unopposed into Tripoli.
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Courthouse News | The CIA is trying to toss a lawsuit alleging that the government used U.S. veterans as human guinea pigs

Bloomberg reveals massive corruption in the private Federal Reserve

Madison Ruppert | Bloomberg has revealed that the “Wall Street Aristocracy” received a staggering $1.2 trillion in loans

Academics who lend their names to Big Pharma ghostwriting schemes should be charged with fraud

Jonathan Benson | Drug companies secretly pay doctors or academics to pretend they wrote journal-published studies, but it’s considered a mere “marketing strategy.”

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Most of the stories above seem plausible - and run of the mill under-reported-naughtiness.

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Remember the key is to CONTRAST AND COMPARE with your news sources , see how you go !
"Comare and contrqast " ain't enough. You need to go completely out of the malstrom of information/misinformation. Learn the area and come back to the stories so that you can ID the bollocks fromm the mainstream AND the alternative media.

I am in the position to be able to do that in matters scientific. Not so good in political history though. So I have four things for you:
1. Global warming is gonna kill 1 to 5 billion by 2050
2. Unvaccinated children will continue to die (be killed)
3. The banksters are more idiot than evil (evil has to smart)
4. Kevin Bonham is evil.
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Most of the stories above seem plausible - and run of the mill under-reported-naughtiness.
ho hum , who cares about under-reported major stories ..


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"Compare and contrast " ain't enough. You need to go completely out of the maelstrom of information/misinformation. Learn the area and come back to the stories so that you can ID the bollocks from the mainstream AND the alternative media.
Correct . eg. the history of mass compulsory schooling !

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I am in the position to be able to do that in matters scientific. Not so good in political history though. So I have four things for you:
1. Global warming is gonna kill 1 to 5 billion by 2050
FALSE ( be it natural or "man-made")
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2. Unvaccinated children will continue to die (be killed)
TRUE ( as will vaccinated ones )
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3. The banksters are more idiot than evil (evil has to smart)
MU .Generally , they are neither . However there does exist a nest of evil at the very apex of control.
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4. Kevin Bonham is evil.
MU . I'm willing to cut him a little slack on this one
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"Can I help you Sir?"

"Yessh! Ssssomebody ssstole my carrr", the man replies.

The cop asks, "Where was your car the last time you saw it?"

"It wasss on the end of thisshh key", the man replies.

About that time the cop looks down and sees the man's willy hanging out of his fly for all the world to see.

He asks the man, "Sir are you aware that you are exposing yourself?"

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Kurt Nimmo | It is a small step from rubber bullets to live ammo.
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14 Reasons Why We Should Nationalize The Federal Reserve

Michael Snyder | We can take back control of our financial system.
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Paul Joseph Watson | Billionaire-funded organization boasted of ‘briefing’ journalists before stories were published.
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Iran will be able to build nuclear bomb within months, IAEA says


Haaretz and Reuters | IAEA says Iran has already acquired the knowledge, technology, and resources.
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Ron Paul | More Texas Straight Talk from the Congressman.
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Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni allowed to visit UK after law change

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Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni will meet Foreign Secretary William Hague in Britain today in the first test of new laws governing arrest warrants for war crimes.
Ms Livni was forced to cancel a visit to the UK in December 2009 after a British court issued a warrant for her arrest.
But an Act recently passed by Parliament introduced a new requirement aimed at preventing the courts being used for political purposes.
The change has paved the way for Ms Livni’s visit, which was announced on Monday night at a Conservative Party conference fringe event. Speaking earlier at a Conservative Friends of Israel meeting, director Stuart Polak said Ms Livni always planned to come to the UK once there had been a change in the law to prevent her being arrested for political capital.
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Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni allowed to visit UK after law change

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October 6, 2011
Former Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni will meet Foreign Secretary William Hague in Britain today in the first test of new laws governing arrest warrants for war crimes.
Ms Livni was forced to cancel a visit to the UK in December 2009 after a British court issued a warrant for her arrest.
But an Act recently passed by Parliament introduced a new requirement aimed at preventing the courts being used for political purposes.
The change has paved the way for Ms Livni’s visit, which was announced on Monday night at a Conservative Party conference fringe event. Speaking earlier at a Conservative Friends of Israel meeting, director Stuart Polak said Ms Livni always planned to come to the UK once there had been a change in the law to prevent her being arrested for political capital.
If you want superior news information you would have heard about this law change months ago at Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! or Jeff Rense Program !!

And today's headlines Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! are :-

Oil at $300 or $500 per Barrel If Israel Attacks Iran

Kurt Nimmo | U.S. would lose nearly $75 billion in GDP if Israel attacks.
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Never Know” If New Street Lights Were Spying On You

Paul Joseph Watson | Homeland Security Deputy invokes Orwell’s 1984.
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Israel Could Be Forced To Go It Alone On Iran Attack

Paul Joseph Watson | Sarkozy calls Netanyahu “liar,” Obama administration cools on sanctions.
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Report: Sarkozy calls Netanyahu ‘liar’

YNet | Obama: You’re fed up with him? I have to deal with him every day!
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Barak: Israel has not yet decided on military operation against Iran

Haaretz and Reuters | Defense Minister downplays speculation Jerusalem is preparing for attack.
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In ‘universal’ flu shot push, medical industry admits current flu shots are useless

Natural News | The medical community is in the process of unveiling a “universal” influenza vaccine.
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Adam Kokesh: Super Class Elite to “Fade Away” in Time

The Alex Jones Channel | Alex talks with Activist and Journalist Adam Kokesh.
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12 Facts About Money And Congress That Are So Outrageous That It Is Hard To Believe They Are True

The Economic Collapse | Do you want to get rich? Just get elected to Congress.
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Bid Could Transform 2012 Election

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The Economic Collapse | Oh, how the mighty have fallen.
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Michel Chossudovsky | Threats directed against Iran have been ongoing for the last eight years.
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Obama Slams 15% Federal Tax On Christmas Trees
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Twas The Month Before Christmas
Cain Sinking Like A Stone - Neutral GOP Analysts
MS Voters Say Life Does NOT Begin At Fertilization
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60 MINUTES Probes Pelosi Stock Investments
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Fluoride Precautions Are Stunning - Fluoridation Wars
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How Goldman Sacked Greece
Chemtrails And Weather Derivatives $$$
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Have Hundreds Of Fukushima Plant Workers Already Died?
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