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[Today 10:03 AM] Just2Good: I only put people on ignore for 30 minutes to see if they cool down

[Today 05:09 AM] Kevin Bonham: another good example of contradiction - putting me on ignore (supposedly) then replying to me 31 minutes later
[Today 05:08 AM] Kevin Bonham: also, if you really think CC's postcount being 100 times yours would be no big deal, then why have a thread devoted to forum comparisons on which you persistently exaggerate how well this forum is supposedly doing compared to CC? again you contradict yourself
[Today 05:07 AM] Kevin Bonham: therefore you contradict yourself and your claim is destroyed
[Today 05:07 AM] Kevin Bonham: now you claim that doesn't stop you "enjoying ourselves" (or whatever) but if that is so then CC with around three times your activity rate cannot be considered even "largely deserted" in any meaningful sense
[Today 05:06 AM] Kevin Bonham: if that is true then this forum is not even a third of largely deserted
[Today 05:05 AM] Kevin Bonham: well, you were the one who claimed CC is largely deserted
[Today 04:42 AM] Just2Good: the rest of us are all just enjoying ourselves.
[Today 04:42 AM] Just2Good: You seem to be the only person who cares about which forum does what better
[Today 04:41 AM] Just2Good: CC's post count can be 100 times what OzChess' is, and it wouldn't mean squat.
[Today 04:41 AM] Just2Good: So? Since when has it been a competition?
[Today 04:31 AM] Kevin Bonham: on the postcount thing, this place's postcount (excluding undeleted spam, deleted posts and CC game posts on both forums) was well below a third of CC's in five of the seven months finished to date this year and well below half in the other two - your best month was below 40% of ours and your worst was only 20%
[Today 04:15 AM] Kevin Bonham: now that's interesting, you said you were putting me on ignore but i briefly saw an unsilence message
[Today 04:14 AM] Kevin Bonham: knowing you you will log out just to check if i have said anything nasty about you while supposedly on ignore, so hi!
[Today 04:14 AM] Kevin Bonham: i feel very welcome indeed, if you have even put me on it
[Today 04:10 AM] Just2Good: Have a lovely day, and welcome to my ignore list
[Today 03:58 AM] Kevin Bonham: you are such a hopeless debater and feeble troll. you cannot engage with what is actually said so you make up something different. then you fail to engage with even that
[Today 03:56 AM] Kevin Bonham: and i am not begging you to come back at all - and if i paid you even 5 zloty to come back to CC then i really would need professional help
[Today 03:56 AM] Kevin Bonham: it is amusing that you claim CC is largely deserted when its postcount continues caning yours
[Today 03:55 AM] Kevin Bonham: the so-called million shouts were mostly not in reply to you alex so perhaps your comprehension skills need the professional help you refer to
[Today 03:37 AM] Just2Good: So please stop begging me, you are making a public spectacle of yourself.
[Today 03:37 AM] Just2Good: You keep begging me to pay you $500 and to come back to your largely deserted forum, but its not going to happen unless you pay me $500 to make your forum interesting again.
[Today 03:30 AM] Just2Good: What the hell? I write two shouts and KB makes a million shouts in return? For crying out loud, get some professional help Kevin!
[Today 12:33 AM] Kevin Bonham: now, if positions were reversed (ie i was just2good), i would be starting by installing a brain between my ears, and following that attempting to make an honest public statement could be a good test of whether the attempt had succeeded
[Today 12:30 AM] Kevin Bonham: finally, it is not a "payment" of $500 i was implying but a good behaviour bond
[Today 12:30 AM] Kevin Bonham: this of course caused angry members of that forum to show up on CC and the style of that attack was a lot like his
[Today 12:30 AM] Kevin Bonham: and there was an incident where someone signed up on a motoring forum pretending to be us posting fake spam on behalf of CC
[Today 12:29 AM] Kevin Bonham: he also made attempts to hack accounts on our site via password guessing
[Today 12:28 AM] Kevin Bonham: he also signed up many accounts while banned to post more nonsense on CC including one that posted 90 posts in one go
[Today 12:27 AM] Kevin Bonham: bear in mind that, among other things, j2g registered a URL similar to ours and sent PMs to our members falsely stating we were moving to try to redirect our members to his site
[Today 12:27 AM] Kevin Bonham: drj if you were fully aware of the history and nature of j2g's attacks on our site you wouldn't be needing to ask
[Yesterday 11:33 PM] drjukka: KB on past post you intimated a payment of $500 was akin to burying the hatchet - if the show were on the proverbial other foot - would you consider this reasonable?other fo
[Yesterday 11:06 PM] The Seeing:
[Yesterday 11:01 PM] The Seeing: Bury The Hatchet
[Yesterday 10:57 PM] Kevin Bonham: and for any banned member there is an easy way this can be done
[Yesterday 10:57 PM] Kevin Bonham: people who want us to change our approach to their misdeeds must show that they have changed their approach to us
[Yesterday 10:55 PM] Kevin Bonham: interesting how CC is expected to bury the hatchet; what hatchet-burying would be conducted by those whose actions created the need for it?
[Yesterday 10:54 PM] drjukka: yes V - bury the hatchet fresh start required here
[Yesterday 10:53 PM] drjukka: night all - going to get my ass whipped at playchess
[Yesterday 10:53 PM] Jaydon:
[Yesterday 10:53 PM] Kevin Bonham: some were doing their level best to destroy such a community
[Yesterday 10:53 PM] Kevin Bonham: good luck
[Yesterday 10:52 PM] Kevin Bonham: most of those who got themselves banned were doing very little that was knowable towards "a greater chess community"
[Yesterday 10:52 PM] drjukka: night all going to get my ass whipped at chessbase
[Yesterday 10:52 PM] - V -: time to move forward
[Yesterday 10:52 PM] - V -: well put drj
[Yesterday 10:52 PM] drjukka: Bury the hatchet and hydras and lets us all 1. Have fun, 2. Exceed out own expectations and 3. Work towards a greater Chess community'
[Yesterday 10:51 PM] Kevin Bonham: forum life in general can be pretty messy - all kinds of forums end up banning people
[Yesterday 10:51 PM] Kevin Bonham: hmm, "SICK", to me that sounds like exactly the kind of comment that is part of the problem not part of the supposed solution
[Yesterday 10:51 PM] - V -: do you agree drj , a fesh start would be healthy ?
[Yesterday 10:50 PM] drjukka: and what I observe is SICK to say the least.
[Yesterday 10:50 PM] - V -: yes drj , kb has only really one course of action and that is to free all warriors now !
[Yesterday 10:50 PM] Kevin Bonham: well there are a lot of messy interactions in the forum community but given some of the oddballs and fanatics CC has had to deal with this is not surprising
[Yesterday 10:50 PM] drjukka: SO I can't comment on detailed history - only a macro perspective of what I observe
[Yesterday 10:49 PM] - V -: does kb know deep down he is ultimately being unreasonable ?
[Yesterday 10:49 PM] drjukka: From an outsider's perspective (I haven't played chess competitively for a very long time) the whole scene looks like a mess
[Yesterday 10:48 PM] - V -: interesting eh observers ? hmmm
[Yesterday 10:48 PM] Kevin Bonham: - V - on shoutbox ignore until midnightish
[Yesterday 10:48 PM] - V -: maybe you have a new response ?
[Yesterday 10:48 PM] Kevin Bonham: each time another axiom hydra pops up in the shoutbox i will put it on shoutbox ignore unless it has something new to say
[Yesterday 10:47 PM] - V -: years bans up, time to forgive ,time for fresh start , re-invigorate , move on ,
[Yesterday 10:45 PM] Kevin Bonham: provided they don't mind being called on it of course
[Yesterday 10:44 PM] Kevin Bonham: they are welcome to go and be ignorant on the basis of their supposedly masterful intuition somewhere else
[Yesterday 10:44 PM] Kevin Bonham: and no, it isn't about the "perception". we're not interested in trying to mollify people who insist on jumping to unsound conclusions without determining the facts
[Yesterday 10:43 PM] Kevin Bonham: and is not to be recommended as a basis for a public comment that may malign someone unfairly
[Yesterday 10:43 PM] drjukka: remember it is as much about managing the perception as it is about managing the truth
[Yesterday 10:43 PM] Kevin Bonham: yes but making comments on the basis of intuition without investigating events thoroughly can be extremely hazardous
[Yesterday 10:42 PM] griller: i remember when cc used to be a hive of activity ..
[Yesterday 10:42 PM] drjukka: Well KB I made a general statement "I Sense" - it is a perception gained from an outsider who has nothing to do with the the "goings on" of the past
[Yesterday 10:41 PM] Kevin Bonham: it's just showing we are fairer than he deserves
[Yesterday 10:41 PM] Kevin Bonham: anyway i think you're taking the deposit offer a little too seriously. i know alex's behaviour well enough to know he would never accept it
[Yesterday 10:40 PM] Kevin Bonham: which would be small return for how much of our time he has wasted with his attacks on our site in the past
[Yesterday 10:40 PM] Kevin Bonham: it wouldn't actually, he would break the agreement anyway and we would make $500
[Yesterday 10:39 PM] griller: exactly drj
[Yesterday 10:39 PM] drjukka: and to insinuate that that a cash payment would rectify the situation - well ... go have a chat with Gordon Nuttal
[Yesterday 10:38 PM] Kevin Bonham: or compared to who?
[Yesterday 10:38 PM] Kevin Bonham: which individuals and on what basis?
[Yesterday 10:38 PM] griller: kb - cant you face your own absurd rationality ?
[Yesterday 10:38 PM] drjukka: I sense there is an an imbalance in the treatment of some individuals
[Yesterday 10:37 PM] drjukka: On the basis of what I have viewed ( and I will not claim it to be a complete history of events)
[Yesterday 10:37 PM] Kevin Bonham: placing griller on shoutbox ignore for at least an hour for excessive repeating [DONE]
[Yesterday 10:37 PM] griller: lessons learned , fresh start , move forward
[Yesterday 10:36 PM] Kevin Bonham: now either you are very familiar with the old threads and are not being open about who you are, or you are not and are not in a position to make informed comment
[Yesterday 10:36 PM] griller: reasonableness , leadership
[Yesterday 10:36 PM] Kevin Bonham: drj i think it is a reasonable inference from a comment about discrimination that you have totally failed to substantiate
[Yesterday 10:36 PM] griller: proportional sentence
[Yesterday 10:36 PM] drjukka: I am not taking sides here.
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] griller: time served
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] drjukka: that's extremely presumptious KB
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] Kevin Bonham: you were given many fresh starts before
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] griller: time served kb
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] griller: put up a poll at cc
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] Kevin Bonham: no griller, it's time for you to take responsibility and earn the fresh start
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] griller: fresh start, clean sheet
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] Kevin Bonham: you claim our treatment of alex is discrimination but cannot say why
[Yesterday 10:35 PM] griller: its time to drop the past ,time served
[Yesterday 10:34 PM] Kevin Bonham: well drj if you've really read the old threads or participated in them then it sounds like your attitude is biased in alex's favour
[Yesterday 10:34 PM] griller: now since years of bans have been served its time to think altruistic king's pardon and clean sheets
[Yesterday 10:34 PM] Kevin Bonham: another year griller? perhaps one for every hydra? that'd have you out of business til methusalah was middleaged
[Yesterday 10:33 PM] griller: under their original user name
[Yesterday 10:33 PM] griller: you ban them for a year
[Yesterday 10:33 PM] drjukka: you
[Yesterday 10:33 PM] drjukka: well KB - its all there in "black and white" if yo have the time to read through old threads
[Yesterday 10:33 PM] Kevin Bonham: so, given that it is not possible to stop hydras. you ban someone for the maximum and then they keep on signing up hydras. what then?
[Yesterday 10:33 PM] griller: well you stop them now , so ?
[Yesterday 10:32 PM] griller: i mean , if they were , would you be conversing with them ??
[Yesterday 10:32 PM] Kevin Bonham: not without imposing cumbersome restrictions on real users
[Yesterday 10:31 PM] Kevin Bonham: now griller, it is not possible to completely stop hydras
[Yesterday 10:31 PM] griller: another years have been served in all reasonableness , afterall we're not talking any really serious offences here
[Yesterday 10:31 PM] Kevin Bonham: what would you know about the background to make such a comment drj?
[Yesterday 10:31 PM] griller: time for a fresh start
[Yesterday 10:30 PM] drjukka: time to bury some hatchets and park some egos
[Yesterday 10:30 PM] Kevin Bonham: good time is right now as far as i'm concerned drj
[Yesterday 10:30 PM] griller: but still complainants
[Yesterday 10:30 PM] drjukka: as to who I am - well I will make myself known in good time
[Yesterday 10:30 PM] Kevin Bonham: amir, fg and moz are all unbanned
[Yesterday 10:30 PM] griller: if they circumvent with hydras , you fix your security , you dont take it out on the person !
[Yesterday 10:29 PM] drjukka: actually KB I have scrolled through enough history on CC to see that the behaviour on both side is poor to say the least
[Yesterday 10:29 PM] griller: my point holds , its a relatively small group to be slicing and dicing and producing a long line of victims ....amir,alex,fg,moz,icon,ax
[Yesterday 10:28 PM] Kevin Bonham: so suppose we ban people for a year and they circumvent their ban with hydras. what should we do then? nothing?
[Yesterday 10:28 PM] Kevin Bonham: well earlier tonight there were 37 online, but anyway, on any forum only a small %age are ever online at a time anyway
[Yesterday 10:28 PM] griller: year bans , ok
[Yesterday 10:28 PM] griller: i say it again - still not worthy of life bans !
[Yesterday 10:27 PM] Kevin Bonham: and you're the one who talks about a god complex while acting as if we need your conspiracy theories and music videos, red text and stuff with generally nothing to do with chess
[Yesterday 10:27 PM] griller: furphy kb , you know theres only ever 20 or so members on at one time generally ,..please dont try such base evasive tricks with me
[Yesterday 10:26 PM] Kevin Bonham: a handful of trolls are not indispensible
[Yesterday 10:26 PM] Kevin Bonham: it is like a forum of thousands griller, more than 1000 actual members anyway
[Yesterday 10:26 PM] griller: again, you dont life ban ! , a years ban maybe
[Yesterday 10:25 PM] Kevin Bonham: and while we're at it drj, who are you?
[Yesterday 10:25 PM] Kevin Bonham: discrimination? on what alleged grounds? have you been to CC and read the history? if not you are not informed enough to comment
[Yesterday 10:25 PM] griller: you dont life ban when you only have a very small pool to start with , its not like a forum of thousands
[Yesterday 10:25 PM] drjukka: Well, I'm a newbie to this; but this sounds like discrimination to me.
[Yesterday 10:24 PM] Kevin Bonham: griller/vaxiom, please drop your armchair psych-hackery
[Yesterday 10:24 PM] griller: multiple year bans are enough !
[Yesterday 10:23 PM] griller: kb - please drop your god complex
[Yesterday 10:23 PM] Kevin Bonham: yes, alex was banned on CC for repeated defamation, breach of agreements, trolling and signing up accounts while banned
[Yesterday 10:23 PM] drjukka: deserve?
[Yesterday 10:23 PM] Kevin Bonham: he does not deserve to be unbanned and he does not even deserve the offer i mentioned
[Yesterday 10:22 PM] Kevin Bonham: no because it is a service he would never get nor deserve without paying
[Yesterday 10:22 PM] griller: ppl are fed up at cc with a dry boring forum , and theyre tired of you causing it
[Yesterday 10:22 PM] drjukka: so you are asking for payment for otherwise free service - sounds like soliciting for a bribe to me!
[Yesterday 10:22 PM] Kevin Bonham: nobody forces you to accept the conditions
[Yesterday 10:21 PM] griller: you dont life ban ppl with invasive conditions
[Yesterday 10:21 PM] griller: diddums kb , multiple years banning is enough !
[Yesterday 10:21 PM] Kevin Bonham: he is completely untrustworthy so the only way to secure good behaviour from him would be for him to face a loss if he played up
[Yesterday 10:20 PM] Kevin Bonham: drj, the problem is that alex always broke agreements he made with CC in the past
[Yesterday 10:20 PM] griller: change the narrative , free the warriors
[Yesterday 10:19 PM] drjukka: Watch out Gordon Nuttal - new cell partner for you!
[Yesterday 10:18 PM] drjukka: sounds to me like KB is asking for bribes
[Yesterday 10:18 PM] Kevin Bonham: and whatever reasons TSK and Boris have for being absent i greatly doubt they have the slightest thing to do with you
[Yesterday 10:17 PM] griller: not as sad as your destructive delusions
[Yesterday 10:17 PM] Kevin Bonham: total nonsense, your triumphalism is almost as sad as AC's
[Yesterday 10:16 PM] griller: and debate you under the table !
[Yesterday 10:16 PM] griller: i would spark up howie , bring back boris and snailking , and put a smile on igor's face !
[Yesterday 10:15 PM] griller: well theyre not interested enough to post
[Yesterday 10:15 PM] Kevin Bonham: virtually no-one there wants you back except sprouty
[Yesterday 10:15 PM] Kevin Bonham: your claim that our remaining members are bored senseless is rubbish
[Yesterday 10:15 PM] griller: try and lift yourself from neurotic adherence to rules and consider the spirit of the game
[Yesterday 10:14 PM] griller: do you understand the mechanics of what has occurred here ?
[Yesterday 10:13 PM] griller: or be constantly hounded, harangued and disrespected for dictatorial stance , and bore your poor remaining members senseless
[Yesterday 10:12 PM] Kevin Bonham: we evidently don't need them, there is plenty of conflict possible without people bieng silly enough to get banned
[Yesterday 10:11 PM] griller: ok , brats ,.....you need them for an active forum
[Yesterday 10:11 PM] Kevin Bonham: you mean the brats
[Yesterday 10:10 PM] griller: simple solution : release the bats
[Yesterday 10:10 PM] griller: you see , chessplayers ie. warriors like a bit of friction and conflict , you , as i warned you , have sanitised the place into comaville
[Yesterday 10:10 PM] Kevin Bonham: the other forum was getting 500-600 ppd at one stage and now down to 70-80
[Yesterday 10:09 PM] Kevin Bonham: "no activity" is not the alternative
[Yesterday 10:09 PM] griller: more so than no activity ?
[Yesterday 10:08 PM] Kevin Bonham: yeah that would happen if we "freed" the wimps but some sorts of activity are undesirable
[Yesterday 10:07 PM] griller: free all warriors and watch the activity increase
[Yesterday 10:07 PM] Kevin Bonham: the decline on CC compared to its apparent peak is nothing like the decline on the other forum i mentioned
[Yesterday 10:07 PM] Kevin Bonham: hard to say but people who used to pick fights with bill either getting themselves banned or else running away is probably part of it
[Yesterday 10:05 PM] griller: and the cause of the cc decline ?
[Yesterday 10:03 PM] Kevin Bonham: yes, the cause of decline on that forum was competition from facebook and adoption of a bad software platform
[Yesterday 10:01 PM] griller: "My postcount on the other forum is now 11210 so with this post my postcount here becomes double it for the first time. So that means that in the time it has taken me to add 2552 posts over there I have added 13762 here. Partly this is because post activity there generally has declined." KBonham ......................... too soon to hypothesise about cause and effect relationships ?
[Yesterday 09:59 PM] Kevin Bonham: currently drinking tea, does that count? dangerous stuff
[Yesterday 09:38 PM] drjukka: Wonders what drugs KB is inhalin
[Yesterday 09:38 PM] drjukka: wonders what drugs is smoking
[Yesterday 09:17 PM] Gold Coast: World Cup 2011 LIVE - including live webcam; http://livegames.fide.com/km2011/round.php
[Yesterday 08:13 PM] Grant Szuveges: 43 now in the Fitzroy Skittles!
[Yesterday 08:11 PM] Kings of chess: Kings of chess club news letter - August 2011; http://www.ozchess.com.au/general-ch...html#post40220
[Yesterday 07:27 PM] griller: thank you , your magnificence
[Yesterday 07:20 PM] hobsonbay player: probably testing water i'd say
[Yesterday 07:17 PM] hobsonbay player: Is that sum of money you made up KB or site decision ?
[Yesterday 07:13 PM] Kevin Bonham: even you gorillavaxiom
[Yesterday 06:59 PM] griller:
[Yesterday 06:32 PM] Kevin Bonham: for anyone who is perm banned on chesschat there is a way back that is fair to the point of being generous and that we know they will not pay
[Yesterday 06:27 PM] Kevin Bonham: if you think we would pay you to do anything other than leave the internet permanently (and not all that much for that) then you are the deluded one. nobody on CC whatsoever wants you back, i was just pointing out to AC that the path back exists if you ever for some reason wanted it
[Yesterday 05:28 PM] Just2Good: You pay me $500 and I will go to Chess Chat. But if you think I would post there for free, then you are deluded (as your old mate BG used to say).
[Yesterday 05:28 PM] Just2Good: I will tell you what KB
[Yesterday 05:04 PM] antichrist: the way KB is going my ban list will have as many chapters as the KJV
[Yesterday 04:49 PM] griller: free the warriors
[Yesterday 04:38 PM] Kevin Bonham: now AC if you are going to keep on trolling me with nonsense i will add "discussing CC moderation in any way on any forum other than CC" to your ban trigger list
[Yesterday 04:37 PM] MOZ: Box Hill Chess Club
[Yesterday 04:36 PM] Kevin Bonham: and actually if j2g wants to reenter the kingdom of Chesschat it's simple - just a $500 deposit for two years, forfeited for any instances of signing up hydras while banned, lying or defamation (the latter two on either forum)
[Yesterday 04:35 PM] Kevin Bonham: actually AC if you had not quoted my shout to the thread where you posted your rubbish before i would have extended your ban
[Yesterday 03:36 PM] Kings of chess: Kings of chess club - Gold Coast; A record number of 37 chess players visited our club this weekend.
[Yesterday 01:41 PM] antichrist: What KB meant was that I dont dare extending his barring a second time coz CC has already gone comatose
[Yesterday 01:20 PM] antichrist: it would be easier for j2g to go through the eye of a needle than to re-enter the Kingdom of ChessChat
[Yesterday 12:51 PM] Kevin Bonham: not an advocate of AC at all j2g - just pointing out why he does not need perm-banning and why your claimed reason we don't perm ban him was just more of your usual trolling

Just2Good

You are clearly getting under KB's skin by posting the shout history mate. But please stop, before you drive him to the point of insanity!

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"The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing."

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Iconoclast

Re KB: Don't Feed The Troll

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The individual is hopeless without the group.
The group is hopeless without its individuals.

antichrist

As CCers like myself are barred from discussing my barring over there I should be able to discuss it here. But KB who can discuss his actions over there does not need to have the freedom to also discuss here and cause trouble. He should wait patiently and answer them over there when the barred one returns.

MOZ

Thank you for speaking so eloquently on behalf of posters banned from parts or all of chesschat.

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PsyOp sleeper

[Today 12:13 PM] antichrist: Dear Matthew, We have investigated Ozchessforum threads and found that many topics do talk about the ACF's negative aspects. The Critics are always good and they help us to improve and moderate chess in Australia. There are many topics about Kevin Bonham but this is his personal war against you. Kevin likes to debate and all of those topics have nothing to do with the ACF. However, we have sent a .................................................. ........... ACF Officier and taking in consideration the ACF's reputation. Ozchessforum is the second strongest bulletin in Australia and we don't see a reason for it to be banned from the ACF and to not be advertised in our News Letters. Welcome to the ACF news letter. Best Regards, President of Australian Chess Federatio
[Today 12:08 PM] antichrist: and Btw who barred Davo for 24 hours? I often thought he may have been BIllG
[Today 12:06 PM] antichrist: J2g who exactly are you referring to when you mention the Three Stooges - gee you dont mind delivering your head to KB on a golden platter
[Today 12:06 PM] antichrist: J2G from thread: It might help if there is someone in the ACF council, or who can be invited to speak to the ACF council, regarding the motion. Otherwise the neutral council members will simply believe the tales they are told by the three stooges. So instead of asking for the reasons Matt, since this seems to be an issue that really bothers you, ask instead for the right to speak to the ACF council about having the order recinded. __________________
[Today 01:02 AM] The Seeing:
[Today 12:02 AM] The Seeing: go buddy
[Yesterday 11:50 PM] Court Clerk:
[Yesterday 11:46 PM] Court Clerk:
[Yesterday 11:40 PM] Court Clerk: where is the defendant , your honour ?
[Yesterday 11:11 PM] Shoutbox Judge: Kevin Bonham - thank you for your payment. Please proceed with your defense.
[Yesterday 11:05 PM] Kevin Bonham: of course you could get the mods to check this if alex let them see IPs
[Yesterday 11:04 PM] Kevin Bonham: davo is clearly not my hydra - get iconoclast to check the IPs if he is capable of it
[Yesterday 11:03 PM] Kevin Bonham: ah more charming references to killing people you don't like
[Yesterday 11:00 PM] griller: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[Yesterday 10:57 PM] griller: The Fire calls for heads to roll
[Yesterday 10:46 PM] Shoutbox Judge: We have considered Firegoat7's suggestion and now Kevin Bonham is required to deposit $500.00 for his defense.
[Yesterday 10:41 PM] Siberian Tiger: Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[Yesterday 10:31 PM] Firegoat7: grgrgrgrgrgrgrggrrrrrrrrrr
[Yesterday 10:31 PM] Firegoat7: and if we are wrong we will have done good anyways
[Yesterday 10:30 PM] Firegoat7: I sez westring up Bonham and hang him...the we will no for certain whether Davo was his hydra or not
[Yesterday 10:29 PM] Firegoat7: no prosecuter, no defence attorney, its a joke trial........
[Yesterday 10:28 PM] Firegoat7: this trial is too slow
[Yesterday 10:28 PM] Firegoat7: hang him
[Yesterday 09:25 PM] Shoutbox Judge: A new case has been opened and Kevin Bonham will be asked to prepare his defense against the following accusation: Kevin Bonham is Davo's hydra.
[Yesterday 08:21 PM] Kevin Bonham: for j2g: re Moulthun, there was a problem at the other end with getting his title application ratified in time (not our fault or moulthun's); greg sorted it out
[Yesterday 06:14 PM] - V -: GO THE BANDIT !
[Yesterday 06:01 PM] Grant Szuveges: MCC Grand Prix results have been updated - Kerry Stead is the new leader!!!
[Yesterday 05:38 PM] antichrist: Davo I have been barred for weeks at a time from bright side, you should appreciate this sites soft touch
[Yesterday 05:38 PM] - V -: Alex Jones And Ron Paul Are The Voices of Reason And Dissent Inside Babylon http://www.prisonplanet.com/alex-jon...e-babylon.html
[Yesterday 05:06 PM] Kevin Bonham: Shoutbox Judge placed on shoutbox ignore, not sure how long for but a few days at least
[Yesterday 05:04 PM] Shoutbox Judge: Kevin Bonham- thank you for your payment.
[Yesterday 05:01 PM] Kevin Bonham: Kevin Bonham has issued a ruling that the hydra Shoutbox Judge will be Shoutbox Ignored again if he cannot improve his output
[Yesterday 05:00 PM] Kevin Bonham: well you would know about that just2goose, but actually in this instance it was AC provoking the reaction from me, so get your facts straight
[Yesterday 04:42 PM] Shoutbox Judge: The High Court has substitued a rule stating Kevin Bonham will only be allowed access to the shoutbox under conditions he will pay a fee of $500 up front. J2G, please let me know when the payment has been made.
[Yesterday 04:15 PM] Just2Good: There is a word for that - it is TROLLING!
[Yesterday 04:15 PM] Just2Good: Oh, so now when you provoke a reaction from AC, you can't be bothered dealing with his reply.
[Yesterday 03:22 PM] Kevin Bonham: can't be bothered with the rest of your incoherent confused red-text babble at the moment
[Yesterday 03:21 PM] Kevin Bonham: "And I have only ever played in one fide-rated event in my life that I withdrew from so I am talking from experience" - sounds more like you are talking from a lack of it
[Yesterday 03:20 PM] Kevin Bonham: AC your cluelessness about my personal life is truly refreshing - i'd tell you the facts but you do not deserve to know (ditto for a few others here)
[Yesterday 11:34 AM] antichrist: KB you are a total fool to be discussing this stuff at 3am go and get a woman instead and do something useful with yourself
[Yesterday 10:36 AM] antichrist: you only arrogantly claim your answer my substitution thread over there, you claim victory then lock the thread or something - big man you are
[Yesterday 10:35 AM] antichrist: because you can defend your self on cc you should not be allowed to post here concerning banned CCers, only banned CCers shoould be able to post here about their bars
[Yesterday 10:33 AM] antichrist: I may need help on the chat boards from predators like yourself but you need help off the board to spin your life around
[Yesterday 10:32 AM] antichrist: I withdraw nothing, you take it like a man. There are about 15000 venues around the globe that fide rules concern with and you cant you little mentality off out back queensland - think the big long term picture like I do. And I have only ever played in one fide-rated event in my life that I withdrew from so I am talking from experience. No one cares about the dribble parts you mention below, just make the approp rules that I mention then when they could be used then you can all thank me - are you sure you dont want to bar me again before your current bar runs out, already you cant take the pressure and are cracking
[Yesterday 02:07 AM] Kevin Bonham: this is simply not a case of a mid-tournament fill-in
[Yesterday 02:07 AM] Kevin Bonham: furthermore according to reserves results beaumont has actually played all opponents in this event (except a forfeit) which was possible as it was a multi-week event. in cases like the QLD events held over a few days it is not possible for a fill-in to play all rounds
[Yesterday 02:01 AM] Kevin Bonham: now admit - explicitly - that you are w-r-o-n-g and apologise for misrepresenting my comments or your hypocrisy will be very plain to all to see
[Yesterday 02:01 AM] Kevin Bonham: you are the arrogant one in this instance
[Yesterday 02:01 AM] Kevin Bonham: and this is the problem with you again - you go around claiming these victories and accusing me of being arrogant when you have ignored relevant context
[Yesterday 02:00 AM] Kevin Bonham: melbourne or sydney are very different matters
[Yesterday 02:00 AM] Kevin Bonham: my point about how it was often difficult to find reserves mid-tournament was not unqualified. the context was a queensland tournament and a 2000+ rated player
[Yesterday 01:59 AM] Kevin Bonham: no AC, this again shows up you being clueless in the interpretation of the words of others
[Yesterday 01:01 AM] antichrist: that post is now in tournament withdrawals
[Yesterday 12:52 AM] antichrist: as he is with many other topics
[Yesterday 12:51 AM] antichrist: http://www.ozchess.com.au/showthread...0237#post40237 this thread really shows KB up for just being an arrogant big mouth who is often wrong but never admits it
[Yesterday 12:39 AM] antichrist: hold on, a guy there in vic reserves who names reminds one of coughing up seems to like cigars

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[Today 10:12 AM] antichrist: like you are probably a tool in more ways than one ha ha
[Today 10:11 AM] antichrist: before when I reproducd one of KB quite unique post he had no idea that it was his, I answered someone's post with it. And this guy reakons I have a bad memory. So he is a fool in more ways than one
[Today 10:10 AM] antichrist: coz it was such a classic our founding father, like Gods words on Mozes tablet- it is eternally true
[Today 07:50 AM] Just2Good: Its true, but I don't see why you're reproducing a post as a shout.
[Today 07:49 AM] Just2Good: Didn't I post that ages ago AC?
[Today 03:46 AM] Kevin Bonham: *yawn*
[Today 02:01 AM] antichrist: j2g: He is not getting shirty, he is getting bored. He is bored because without you around, there is no one interesting enough on Chess Chat. That's why he follows you here like a little puppy dog, scrutinizing everything you say. But its his life, so if he wants to waste it on you Peter - I can only offer my condolences.
[Today 01:19 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: maybe i should ask davo how to get rid of them
[Today 01:18 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: i find i have them everywhere
[Today 01:17 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: i found a clue fairy behind the couch this morning
[Today 01:17 AM] Kevin Bonham: alas not all are able to detect such things
[Today 01:17 AM] Kevin Bonham: i would personally suggest they can be recognised by the telltale traces on their person of the delicate touch of the clue fairy
[Today 01:16 AM] Kevin Bonham: and how does a bystander know who the MAF inspectors are?
[Today 01:15 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: its up to all particular card carrying maf holders to be able to present their case so that the maf deniers lose the debate , as deemed by official maf inspectors
[Today 01:15 AM] Kevin Bonham: furthermore they would argue that they could demonstrate why the MAF should not be a MAF, but would anyone accept their argument?
[Today 01:14 AM] Kevin Bonham: crowd belief in factuality as a criterion sounds a bit sheepish
[Today 01:13 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: they either join the maf crowd or demonstrate why the maf cannot reasonably be a maf
[Today 01:13 AM] Kevin Bonham: well that would apply to both sides in theory since the irrational person might say the rational person needed to convince
[Today 01:12 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: they would need to convince with argument
[Today 01:12 AM] Kevin Bonham: which is circular, because it would not be a MAF because they were denying it, but i'm sure that wouldn't stop them
[Today 01:12 AM] Kevin Bonham: they could deny any claimed fact on the grounds that it wasn't a MAF
[Today 01:11 AM] Kevin Bonham: but if there is an irrational person in the mix they might refuse to accept a fact that would but for their irrationality be a MAF
[Today 01:10 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: so ppl are entitled to opinions and mafs ...context dependent naturally
[Today 01:09 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: maybe a MAF would be better , a mutually accepted fact
[Today 01:08 AM] Kevin Bonham: i don't agree with that, calling a fact an axiom just because two people agree on it just confuses things
[Today 01:06 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: ..i got all that straight out of my trusty copy of the R.A.H , the reality analyst's handbook !
[Today 01:05 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: so my variation on the definitions help overcome some of communication traps
[Today 01:03 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: one person's fact can be another's opinion
[Today 01:01 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: if the facts are mutually accepted then these facts are said to be mutually accepted axioms , in the sense they can be built upon in a logically safe way
[Today 12:58 AM] Kevin Bonham: well the evidence you ask people to support their facts with is likely to contain facts itself, so if you're ideological enough you can just keep disputing those too, all the way down - but that doesn't necessarily get you to axioms
[Today 12:34 AM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: "_blank">"
[Yesterday 08:51 PM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: the waitress was rough and the milk was skimmed
[Yesterday 08:39 PM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime: He's the top man in the language department .
[Yesterday 08:36 PM] WarriorOnTheEdgeOfTime:
[Yesterday 08:22 PM] Kevin Bonham: perhaps the deleter should instead delete AC's below since they have already been posted to a thread
[Yesterday 08:21 PM] Kevin Bonham: hmmm, one of my shouts was just deleted for no remotely valid reason

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[09-15-2011 08:02 PM] Kevin Bonham: i see there's been quite an accumulation of other nonsense in my brief absence from shouting but i don't think i'll bother with most of it for now.
[09-15-2011 08:00 PM] Kevin Bonham: and quoting material from here on CC is generally only frowned upon if (i) the author is banned and it looks like someone is trying to circumvent a ban (ii) the dragging is just to start fights or (iii) the dragger is antichrist, who has proven he can't behave himself as concerns (i) and (ii)
[09-15-2011 07:59 PM] Kevin Bonham: what supposed hiding did i supposedly not show up where for a few days after, AC?
[09-15-2011 06:21 PM] Gold Coast: Firegoat7 is a true man; True men stand up for what they believe, take responsibility for their actions, help others, they are self confident, physically strong and in shape, have a sense of humor, generous, honest, and are considerate.
[09-15-2011 04:30 PM] antichrist: talk about KB running away from an argument - didn't show up for a few days after that hiding
[09-15-2011 04:28 PM] antichrist: And FG has already triumphantly proven to KB that there are racists over there - but talk about casting pearls to swine, worse than casting them to goats