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**Counterplay** · 08-16-2010, 03:27 AM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

Should "bad manners" be illegal? My personal opinion is that sexual harassment is "bad manners." Am I wrong?

This is how sexual harassment looked like in the 1930s.

**Just2Good** · 08-16-2010, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Counterplay

This is how sexual harassment looked like in the 1930s.

So they made cartoons about it. That means they probably didn't view the subject very seriously back then.

**jenniferallain** · 09-09-2010, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Jaydon

Well yes I think cases like that are completely stupid and the victim only has a problem with it because they'll get some good money out of it. People say you shouldn't undermine their situation because they were told how attractive they were a few too many times and it really hurt their feelings Of course a few million should fix the immense scarring caused by something of such a horrific nature

I agree..

**antichrist** · 09-09-2010, 09:16 PM

The current DJ case, the guy only touched her bra strap and attempted to kiss her. Imagine if he had actually done something, the claim would be for a $100M I imagine.

**Axiom** · 09-09-2010, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by antichrist

The current DJ case, the guy only touched her bra strap and attempted to kiss her. Imagine if he had actually done something, the claim would be for a $100M I imagine.

Closer to the $3 trillion mark by my estimates .

**antichrist** · 09-01-2011, 02:38 AM

A 22-year-old food delivery man who raped a half-asleep customer in her home has been jailed for three years.

Amit Hamal was delivering Indian food to the woman in the eastern Sydney suburb of Rose Bay, but when he arrived he found the door ajar and her husband asleep, a Sydney district court heard.

When Hamal walked past the woman's bedroom and saw she was asleep, he went in to her room, took off her pants and raped her.

The woman asked her husband about it the next morning, assuming she had had sex with him.

He denied having sex with her, saying she must have had a "vivid dream".

But when Hamal called the house later that day and suggested to the woman they become sexual partners, she realised she had been sexually assaulted and reported it to police.

DNA tests confirmed Hamal had raped her.

During the trial, Hamal told the court the sex was consensual and that she pulled him towards her.

The Nepalese-national will serve at least 18-months of his three year sentence.

**Just2Good** · 09-01-2011, 04:22 AM

Originally Posted by antichrist

A 22-year-old food delivery man who raped a half-asleep customer in her home has been jailed for three years.

Amit Hamal was delivering Indian food to the woman in the eastern Sydney suburb of Rose Bay, but when he arrived he found the door ajar and her husband asleep, a Sydney district court heard.

When Hamal walked past the woman's bedroom and saw she was asleep, he went in to her room, took off her pants and raped her.

The woman asked her husband about it the next morning, assuming she had had sex with him.

He denied having sex with her, saying she must have had a "vivid dream".

But when Hamal called the house later that day and suggested to the woman they become sexual partners, she realised she had been sexually assaulted and reported it to police.

DNA tests confirmed Hamal had raped her.

During the trial, Hamal told the court the sex was consensual and that she pulled him towards her.

The Nepalese-national will serve at least 18-months of his three year sentence.

I preferred reading this story in the Sydney Morning Herald much more than reading it in your cheap cut-n-paste post AC!

**Iconoclast** · 09-01-2011, 10:09 AM

Sleezy? Yes. Unconscionable? Yes. Dangerous? Yes. Deserves rough justice? Yes. Dacking? Yes. Rape? No.

Being a dud root (the woman) does not excuse her from not knowing the difference between one dud root (curry guy) and another dud root (husband.)

The FACT the curry guy went back around to firm up what he believes was a blossoming dud-root-fest relationship shows that he was lead to believe that the show was a goer.

I subscribe to the idea that for an action to be criminal, there must be an intent to commit a criminal act. Without intent, we can only say that there is culpability for the act. That makes the act actionable at common law.

Curry guy should be prosecuted for whipping the knickers off an apparently sleeping woman! Everyone knows that that is a no-no. The rest is a fettish porno.

**antichrist** · 09-01-2011, 11:08 AM

It reminds me of the Blessed Virgin Story about 2000 years ago - strange and mysterious happenings, like IVF to a cow they are not sure what is happening.

I reakon bulldust that she did not know it was her husband, and she was only covering herself incase he knew about it.

Just as Icon called him curry his breath would probably be a dead give-away, everyone knows their partners breath, the size of their donga etc and the order in which they did things. As Mae Wests fifth husband said: I try and do a good job but nothing is new to her anymore

**antichrist** · 09-05-2011, 03:07 PM

An excellent post that has convinced me this is a bigger issue than I thought, and a more troublesome practice than I had thought!

08-16-2010, 03:27 AM	#16 (permalink)
Counterplay Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Victoria, Australia Posts: 76	Originally Posted by Iconoclast Should "bad manners" be illegal? My personal opinion is that sexual harassment is "bad manners." Am I wrong? This is how sexual harassment looked like in the 1930s.

08-16-2010, 05:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Counterplay This is how sexual harassment looked like in the 1930s. So they made cartoons about it. That means they probably didn't view the subject very seriously back then. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

09-09-2010, 07:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
jenniferallain Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1	Originally Posted by Jaydon Well yes I think cases like that are completely stupid and the victim only has a problem with it because they'll get some good money out of it. People say you shouldn't undermine their situation because they were told how attractive they were a few too many times and it really hurt their feelings Of course a few million should fix the immense scarring caused by something of such a horrific nature I agree.. __________________ hidden object games - physics games

09-09-2010, 10:17 PM	#20 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by antichrist The current DJ case, the guy only touched her bra strap and attempted to kiss her. Imagine if he had actually done something, the claim would be for a $100M I imagine. Closer to the $3 trillion mark by my estimates . __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom Last edited by Axiom : 09-10-2010 at 02:27 AM

09-01-2011, 02:38 AM	#21 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Was it rape or not? only 18 months? A 22-year-old food delivery man who raped a half-asleep customer in her home has been jailed for three years. Amit Hamal was delivering Indian food to the woman in the eastern Sydney suburb of Rose Bay, but when he arrived he found the door ajar and her husband asleep, a Sydney district court heard. When Hamal walked past the woman's bedroom and saw she was asleep, he went in to her room, took off her pants and raped her. The woman asked her husband about it the next morning, assuming she had had sex with him. He denied having sex with her, saying she must have had a "vivid dream". But when Hamal called the house later that day and suggested to the woman they become sexual partners, she realised she had been sexually assaulted and reported it to police. DNA tests confirmed Hamal had raped her. During the trial, Hamal told the court the sex was consensual and that she pulled him towards her. The Nepalese-national will serve at least 18-months of his three year sentence.

09-09-2010, 09:16 PM	#19 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	The current DJ case, the guy only touched her bra strap and attempted to kiss her. Imagine if he had actually done something, the claim would be for a $100M I imagine.

09-01-2011, 04:22 AM	#22 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by antichrist A 22-year-old food delivery man who raped a half-asleep customer in her home has been jailed for three years. Amit Hamal was delivering Indian food to the woman in the eastern Sydney suburb of Rose Bay, but when he arrived he found the door ajar and her husband asleep, a Sydney district court heard. When Hamal walked past the woman's bedroom and saw she was asleep, he went in to her room, took off her pants and raped her. The woman asked her husband about it the next morning, assuming she had had sex with him. He denied having sex with her, saying she must have had a "vivid dream". But when Hamal called the house later that day and suggested to the woman they become sexual partners, she realised she had been sexually assaulted and reported it to police. DNA tests confirmed Hamal had raped her. During the trial, Hamal told the court the sex was consensual and that she pulled him towards her. The Nepalese-national will serve at least 18-months of his three year sentence. I preferred reading this story in the Sydney Morning Herald much more than reading it in your cheap cut-n-paste post AC! __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

09-01-2011, 10:09 AM	#23 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Sleezy? Yes. Unconscionable? Yes. Dangerous? Yes. Deserves rough justice? Yes. Dacking? Yes. Rape? No. Being a dud root (the woman) does not excuse her from not knowing the difference between one dud root (curry guy) and another dud root (husband.) The FACT the curry guy went back around to firm up what he believes was a blossoming dud-root-fest relationship shows that he was lead to believe that the show was a goer. I subscribe to the idea that for an action to be criminal, there must be an intent to commit a criminal act. Without intent, we can only say that there is culpability for the act. That makes the act actionable at common law. Curry guy should be prosecuted for whipping the knickers off an apparently sleeping woman! Everyone knows that that is a no-no. The rest is a fettish porno. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

09-01-2011, 11:08 AM	#24 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	It reminds me of the Blessed Virgin Story about 2000 years ago - strange and mysterious happenings, like IVF to a cow they are not sure what is happening. I reakon bulldust that she did not know it was her husband, and she was only covering herself incase he knew about it. Just as Icon called him curry his breath would probably be a dead give-away, everyone knows their partners breath, the size of their donga etc and the order in which they did things. As Mae Wests fifth husband said: I try and do a good job but nothing is new to her anymore

09-05-2011, 03:07 PM	#25 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	An excellent post that has convinced me this is a bigger issue than I thought, and a more troublesome practice than I had thought!

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