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I heard recently that Albert Einstein was against the idea of a Jewish State. I am not against such at all only that it should not be stolen (or receiving stolen property) from other people.

MIddleEastNews.com - United Nations Resolutions Against Israel "1955-1992"

A List of UN SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS against Israel
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A list of UN Resolutions against "Israel"

1955-1992:
* Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid".
* Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people".
* Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem".
* Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions".
* Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria".
* Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control".
* Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees".
* Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan".
* Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem".
* Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250".
* Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital".
* Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation".
* Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation".
* Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport".
* Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan".
* Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem".
*Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon".
* Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem".
* Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon".
* Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem".
* Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon".
* Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon".
* Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon".
* Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty".
* Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon".
* Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon.
* Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces".
* Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious
obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
* Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon".
* Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories".
* Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member
states not to assist Israel's settlements program".
* Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon".
* Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of
two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return".
* Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the
council's order not to deport Palestinians".
* Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide
by the Fourth Geneva Convention".
* Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'".
* Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its
claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'".
* Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported
Palestinian mayors".
* Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's
nuclear facility".
* Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan
Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith".
* Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon".
* Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops".
* Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon".
* Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and
allow food supplies to be brought in".
* Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions
and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon".
* Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon".
* Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut".
* Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia
in attack on PLO headquarters.
* Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw
its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw".
* Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students
at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops".
* Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices
denying the human rights of Palestinians.
* Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly
requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention.
* Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians".
* Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians.
* Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians.
* Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians
at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount.
* Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United
Nations.
* Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of
Palestinians.
* Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and
calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return.
* Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians.
* Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians
and calls for their immediate return.
Not a huge media story , ..hmmm i wonder why ?
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I heard recently that Albert Einstein was against the idea of a Jewish State. I am not against such at all (...)
wow, even great minds dare to differ some times! ...
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Rethinking the issue I am also against a Jewish state, against any religious state not just Jewish. There will always be dissendents and heretics who should not have rights and priviliges infringed upon in any way, nor made to feel not quite the real thing - I think this would almost be impossible in any religious state.

There are very imp reasons why Israel should not be a Jewish state. Behind the idea is that being so they could refuse full citizenship to non Jews therefore depriving them of their rights. It could even lead to annexing parts of Arab-dominated Israel to that they are no longer part of Israel with full rights - that is political clout. It would also mean denying the right of return of the Palestinians currently in refugee camps and scattered around the globe - even though they currently have the right of return but are denied such illegally by Israel.

Isreal is attempting to cut the Palestinians off at every turn, making their life misery and worthless so that hopefully that will get out of their own land country.

Ethnic cleansing is term for it, slow back-door genocide is another.

But the other side of the coin is the fantastic Israeli and dispora Jews who fight every inch of the way for the dispossessed Palestinians. They respect human rights and know the difference between robbery/genocide and justice.

I am hoping that one day I can count Mike Baron amongst them.
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Rethinking the issue I am also against a Jewish state, against any religious state not just Jewish. There will always be dissendents and heretics who should not have rights and priviliges infringed upon in any way, nor made to feel not quite the real thing - I think this would almost be impossible in any religious state.

There are very imp reasons why Israel should not be a Jewish state. Behind the idea is that being so they could refuse full citizenship to non Jews therefore depriving them of their rights. It could even lead to annexing parts of Arab-dominated Israel to that they are no longer part of Israel with full rights - that is political clout. It would also mean denying the right of return of the Palestinians currently in refugee camps and scattered around the globe - even though they currently have the right of return but are denied such illegally by Israel.

Isreal is attempting to cut the Palestinians off at every turn, making their life misery and worthless so that hopefully that will get out of their own land country.

Ethnic cleansing is term for it, slow back-door genocide is another.

But the other side of the coin is the fantastic Israeli and dispora Jews who fight every inch of the way for the dispossessed Palestinians. They respect human rights and know the difference between robbery/genocide and justice.

I am hoping that one day I can count Mike Baron amongst them.
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Excellent article but too wordy for this time of the morning.

In today's SMH it reports on how a group of US Rabbis are fasting as a means of persuading Israel to stop the seize on Gaza.

One only needs a basic sense of human rights to know what is right and wrong.

And Gladstone, an assertive and lifetime Zionist who done the war crimes investigation has been desribed by Jewish extremists as being a self-hating Jew and Jewish Uncle Tom.

Their slip is showing.
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Hillary Clinton, US Secretary of State: speaking yesterday at AIPAC:

"For president Obama and for me and for our entire administration: Our commitment to Israel's security and Israel's future is rock-solid unwavering and enduring FOREVER!

Benjamin Netanyahu: At the same AIPAC CONFERENCE:

"The Jewish people were building Jerusalem 3,000 years ago and the Jewish people are building Jerusalem today! Jerusalemis NOT a settlement it's our Capital. Everyone knows * everyone * Americans, Europeans; Israeli's certainly, Palestinians: EVERYONE knows that these neighborhoods will be part of Israel in any peace settlement. And therefore 'building in them' in no way precludes the possibility of a two-state solution."

The above treasons and lies were all refuted brilliantly by Norman Finkelstein on Democracy
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NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: It didn't really surprise me. I think one has to look at the framework of the criticism. There is an international law ruling or opinion on the question of East Jerusalem. In July 2004, the highest judicial body in the world, the International Court of Justice, it rendered what it called its advisory opinion, and it stated unequivocally that East Jerusalem is-and I'm using its words-"occupied Palestinian territory." It's not a question here of conflicting claims to Jerusalem, let alone an Israeli exclusive right to theEast Jerusalem. The law is clear: it's occupied Palestinian territory, because it was acquired in the course of a war, in the course of the June 1967 war. And under international law, it's inadmissible to acquire territory by war.

I would want to add that's the position of all human rights organizations, and it was the position of the Goldstone report. The Goldstone report repeatedly refers to East Jerusalem as occupied Palestinian territory. And Mr. Goldstone, by his own reckoning, is a Zionist, a lover of Israel. But he also respects the law, and the law is clear.

SHARIF ABDEL KOUDDOUS: Well, let's talk about the Goldstone report. You write about this extensively in the epilogue of your book. Israel and the US have both rejected that the war crimes allegations in the report. Talk about what the report is, who put together, Judge Goldstone, and what the reaction from the US and Israel has been.

NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: The Goldstone report was mandated by the United Nations Human Rights Council. Richard Goldstone, the distinguished international jurist, led the mission. And he-at the end, they published a quite substantial report that ran to some 500 pages, 550 pages. It covered a lot of ground. And it has to be said, it was quite devastating in its indictment of Israel. It concluded thatIsrael used a disproportionate force to punish, humiliate and terrorize a civilian population.

Well, Israel was outraged by the report, across the spectrum, not just the right wing, but people like Shimon Peres, who's said to be a dove. He called Richard Goldstone a "small man" who knows nothing about international law. Michael Oren, the Israeli ambassador to the United States, said the Goldstone report is worse than the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and worse than Ahmadinejad. And the reaction was quite similar in the United States.

And Goldstein replied after the criticism in the US. He said, "OK, you say the report is deeply flawed. Show me where." And to this day-and I've read all the critiques. There have been three major ones, one by this Israeli and American professor Moshe Halbertal, there was one by Professor Dershowitz of Harvard, and the Israelis put out just last week a 500-page rebuttal. And I tried honestly to look at it objectively, but they were very insubstantial responses. I was quite impressed by how well Goldstone has held up to the criticism. It was a very careful, cautious and judicious report.

AMY GOODMAN: And its conclusion?

NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: Its conclusion was that both Israel and Hamas were guilty of war crimes and possible crimes against humanity, that Israel has now an obligation to investigate, in an independent investigation of what happened, and if they don't conduct an independent investigation, they have to go before the International Criminal Court.

AMY GOODMAN: And Obama's response to this?

NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: The Obama administration has called the report deeply flawed, but not provided any substantive evidence to support that claim.

SHARIF ABDEL KOUDDOUS: And this latest flap between the US and Israel about the expanding Jewish housing in East Jerusalem, it's been a lot about diplomatic ties, but they have not talked at all about holding any US military aid or economic aid to Israel.

NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: Well, I'm sure all of your listeners and your viewers are familiar with the magnitude of US aid to Israel. I think the important development is what Amnesty International said after the invasion of Gaza. It put out a very substantial report called "Fueling Conflict." And it said that transferring weapons to a consistent violator of human rights is illegal under international law. Israelis a consistent violator of human rights, and therefore there has to be a comprehensive arms embargo on Israel. And the report went into each country in the world, how it supplies and transfers weapons to Israel. But it has to be said, the focus was on the United States.

And Amnesty International said three main things: number one, that the US is by far the biggest supplier of weapons to Israel; number two, supplying those weapons to Israel is not only illegal under international law, it's illegal under domestic US law; and number three, it said-and I think it's important for your viewers to hear it-Amnesty International said what happened in Gaza could-and they describe what happened in Gaza as twenty-two days of death and destruction-what happened in Gaza could not have happened were it not for US taxpayer money. If you're appalled by what happened in Gaza, you're appalled by the death, the destruction, the systematic attack on mosques, the systematic attack on ambulances, the systematic attack on hospitals, on schools-

SHARIF ABDEL KOUDDOUS: And these were detailed in the Goldstone report?

NORMAN FINKELSTEIN: Yes. The 6,000 homes which were all either completely or nearly completely destroyed, Amnesty International says all of that was paid for with US taxpayer money.

And now along comes Hillary Clinton, and she's extolling US military aid to Israel. The part that she left out is, number one, it's all illegal under international and domestic US law, and number two, it was that US aid that made possible-you have to bear in mind-I know your program chronicled the use of the white phosphorus-every white phosphorus shell they found-you can see it in the Human Rights Watch report on the white phosphorus-every one was made in the United States. We are responsible for that war. It's not just a cliché. It's a factual matter. We made that massacre happen." (1)

No state can be of two minds, never mind two-faces when it comes to who actually runs their nation. However in the case of the US Empire not only is this the case in point, but we have taken to speaking with two different tongues. And too many of this country's leaders have dual-citizenships with Israel for this country to present a single face in either foreign or domestic policy-affairs for there to be any credibility left concerning anything that the traitors at the top of this government have to say.

We are today 'a nation without freedom, without justice, and without any clearly defined laws that apply to all our people': and not just to the disadvantaged, the homeless and the destitute. No 'supposed nation' can long exist in that condition: which is why this one's days are fast becoming "numbered" whenever the viability of this place is mentioned anywhere.




As nation's go, we are not composed of a single people or a single religion, we have no formal culture as such and most of our adults are still reliving their highschool years in terms of their habits and behaviors which leaves our population with far too many people that are barely housebroken with tendencies toward juvenile desires and habits that leaves no room for the living of authentic lives. We still rabidly follow the same games we played as students in school, as if these multi-billion-dollar entertainments actually mean something beyond huge profits for their owners and the massive distractions they are capable of manufacturing for the public. Even our eating and drinking habits are nothing more than expanded versions of what so many did whenever they took-off on their 'Spring-Break.'

Is it any wonder that we have no time to figure out who is trying to kill us, or why? Under Reagan's tortured presidency the public began to learn very simple things that were then inculcated into the psyche of the body-politic: "Greed is Good" or "He that dies with the most toys wins!" With slogans like these this society began to sign its own death warrant a very long time ago. Then there was that infamous line in Elmer Gantry that maybe came from the Bible: "When I was a child I played with the toys of a child, but when I became a man I put away the toys of a child." Too often too many have forgotten this critical bit of wisdom that could have allowed us to focus on those things that have locked us into this place where we no longer question any of the irrational aspects in our 'national character.'

Zionist Israel is today a state of only one religion, Christians and Muslims have been officially banned, and there is no longer a functioning 'Democracy' in that place: Zionist Israel is officially an Outlaw state that rules its inhabitants as a Rogue Entity that observes none of the national or international laws that once governed the United States. We should tear off this Judas-face of Zionism that we have allowed to supplant what we once strove to be. If we cannot do this, then we will not survive to reach 2011 as an actual state, because by then we shall have become a captive state that serves only the perverted dreams of others in The New World Order.

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1) Norman Finkelstein Responds to Clinton, Netanyahu AIPAC Commentshttp://www.democracynow.org/2010/3/23/
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AX, thanks a million. I seen/saw UN secretary Ban Ki Moon on TV the other day and he stated that all the Israeli settlements on occupied territories are ILLEGAL, i.e. all West Bank and East Jerusalem at least.

About time that a UN chief actually re-iterated what the law is. Pity US and Isreal were not listening.

When one views the map of illegal settlements that Israel is attempting to maintain it makes the boundaries of any Palestinian state look ridiculous, and I think could never be actually approved by any authority.

No other people would be expected to accept such a ridiculous situation.
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Christopher Bollyn – Bollyn.com March 31, 2010

SOME DAY AMERICANS WILL AWAKEN to the heavy strategic price their own nation pays for indulging Israeli excesses. Israel may be successful in securing all of Jerusalem within its own borders. But it runs the historic risk of making itself, by a ghastly irony, a pariah state.

Max Hastings in "A deaf and defiant Israel is gambling with its future", Financial Times (U.K.) March 26, 2010.

"Bibi" Netanyahu, Israel's prime minister, is a disciple of Ze'ev Jabotinsky, the founder of the most radical, racist, and militant form of Zionism. Jabotinsky was the Zionist extremist who called for an "Iron Wall" to be built in Palestine. The West should know that there can be no appeasement with such fanatics who are devoted to an ideology of Jewish supremacism, racial and religious segregation, and the creation of Greater Israel. The fact that the U.S. and the international community have now clearly condemned illegal Israeli settlements is piling pressure on Netanyahu and his government of extremists. The crucial question now is how will Netanyahu respond to this pressure? This is a dangerous situation because Zionist zealots, when pressed to make compromises for peace, usually react with violence and terrorism.

HOW CAN NETANYAHU AFFORD TO DEFY OBAMA AND INTERNATIONAL LAW?
(CLUE - Remember Madoff's Missing Billions?)

It is said that one can judge a man by the company he keeps. This is sage advice. It is true that one can judge a person's nature by the kind of people he associates with. This is also how one can identify and understand the connections between the members of the Zionist criminal network behind the terrorism of 9-11 and the massive financial scams of the past few years. As I pointed out when the Bernard Madoff scam surfaced, a small circle of people are involved in both 9-11 and the theft of some $50 billion by Madoff and company.

One might wonder how Benjamin Netanyahu can afford to offend and insult the Obama administration so openly? The hubris of Netanyahu comes from his conceit - and the fact that he and his cronies have tucked away billions of stolen dollars, the missing billions from the Madoff scam, for example. [cont. link in heading]
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