![]() |
|
|
|
#61 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
Originally Posted by Iconoclast
Yes ,so complicated in fact ,that the theory has gone from one of coming ice age cooling in the 70s to warming to 'climate change' to destabilisation .
(The earth has been cooling for the last 10 years !) Were you referring to the following when talking about 'fit' ,'no-fit' and 'we are the culprits' ? LOL Lord Monckton: Prosecute the Climate Change Criminals Kurt Nimmo | The so-called researchers colluded to modify climate data in favor of their man-made climate change fairy tale. 2 Comments Alex Runs Down Man-made Climate Change Hoax Exposed in CRU Emails Kurt Nimmo | Alex Jones examines the CRU files and spells out what it means for the global elite. 83 Comments Inhofe to call for hearing into CRU, U.N. climate change research The Hill | Inhofe announced he would probe whether the U.N.’s IPCC “cooked the science to make this thing look as if the science was settled, when all the time of course we knew it was not.” 82 Comments Dr. Tim Ball On the Significance of the CRU Hacked Documents Corbett Report | Retired climatologist Dr. Tim Ball talks about the significance of the recently leaked emails and documents from the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University. 70 Comments Alex Jones TV: Doom & Gloom Climate Fraudsters Exposed Infowars | Alex covers the hacked CRU documents and the victory this represents for the truth and the ongoing effort to defeat the New World Order. 92 Comments Climategate: CRU Source Code Confirms AGW Fraud From Hacked Documents Infowars | The source code confirms the manipulation of climate data by climate scientists. Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom Last edited by Axiom : 11-24-2009 at 06:48 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
#62 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
Emergency Viral: ClimateGate Fraud Exposes Dirty Tricks Agenda For Global Government
Hackers break into University emails and uncover the global warming conspiracy. Mainstream media is whitewashing this story — so it is up to us to get this info out! 55 Comments CNN Sucks: Climategate Never Happened The last place cable news network is following the same tack it took on the ACORN scandal, which is, ignore the story that is not only overturning the cart and its apples, but is also crushing them into a pulp fit for a Mott’s jar. 19 Comments Global Warming On Trial: Inhofe Calls For Investigation Of UN IPCC In response to the astounding revelations arising out of the hacked CRU emails, Senator Jim Inhofe has stated that unless something is done within the next seven days, he will lead the call for a rigorous investigation into mounting evidence that top climate scientists conspired to manipulate data to hide evidence of global cooling while engaging in academic witch hunts to eliminate scientists skeptical of man-made climate change. 44 Comments “Climategate”: Peer-Review System Was Hijacked By Warming Alarmists One of the most striking revelations to immediately emerge from the “climategate” scandal has been references to efforts by scientists espousing the human-caused warming theory to exclude contrary viewpoints from important scientific publications. 23 Comments Bishop Hill’s compendium of CRU email issues Extensive list of the CRUgate files with summaries and links. 2 Comments Call For Independent Inquiry Into Climategate as Global Warming Fraud Implodes Calls for an independent inquiry into what is being dubbed “Climategate” are growing as the foundation for man-made global warming implodes following the release of emails which prove researchers colluded to manipulate data in order to “hide the decline” in global temperatures. 54 Comments Climategate: how the MSM reported the greatest scandal in modern science Documenting the almost uniform mainstream whitewash of the climate emails scandal. 20 Comments Spencer on elitism in the IPCC climate machine The hundreds of e-mails being made public after someone hacked into Phil Jones’ Climatic Research Unit (CRU) computer system offer a revealing peek inside the IPCC machine. 1 Comment CRU Emails “may” be open to interpretation, but commented code by the programmer tells the real story You can claim an email you wrote years ago isn’t accurate saying it was “taken out of context”, but a programmer making notes in the code does so that he/she can document what the code is actually doing at that stage. Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom |
|
|
|
|
|
#63 (permalink) |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 180
|
Instead quoting everything you see on net how about few sentences.
l know you love to copy and paste it's hard cycle to stop ,but if you want people to be informed perhaps keep it brief because your post's will just go over people's head's.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#64 (permalink) |
|
Immoderator
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Wollongong NSW
Posts: 2,302
|
Originally Posted by Axiom
Yes, THAT theory, which was nascent and moot. Which is now maturing and generating testable predictions - of which most have so far been shown to be correct.
__________________
The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals. |
|
|
|
|
|
#65 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
Originally Posted by Iconoclast
oh like the ones from CRU ?
It's part of the warming , oops i mean 'destabilisation' . Never mind taking into account factors such as the sun , the over riding variables of natural cosmic cycles ,that our solar system is whirling through the galaxy ,that theres also 'climate change' in the rest of our solar system too ,that it was much warmer 800 yrs ago ,that water vapour is a far greater contributer to global warming than co2 , and that one volcano eruption can contribute more co2 to the atmosphere than 100 yrs of human industry. IT IS A FRAUD , A HOAX , YOU'VE BEEN HAD ! It's not that rare however , as war on terror and war on drugs are likewise total frauds. GET INFORMED ! Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom Last edited by Axiom : 11-24-2009 at 06:49 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
#66 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
sorry if all those single sentence introductions above are too much for you .
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom |
|
|
|
|
|
#67 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
Even George Monbiot, one of the fiercest media propagandists of the warming faith, admits he should have been more sceptical and says the science now needs to be rechecked:
It’s no use pretending that this isn’t a major blow. The emails extracted by a hacker from the climatic research unit at the University of East Anglia could scarcely be more damaging. I am now convinced that they are genuine, and I’m dismayed and deeply shaken by them. Yes, the messages were obtained illegally. Yes, all of us say things in emails that would be excruciating if made public. Yes, some of the comments have been taken out of context. But there are some messages that require no spin to make them look bad. There appears to be evidence here of attempts to prevent scientific data from being released, and even to destroy material that was subject to a freedom of information request. Worse still, some of the emails suggest efforts to prevent the publication of work by climate sceptics, or to keep it out of a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. I believe that the head of the unit, Phil Jones, should now resign. Some of the data discussed in the emails should be re-analysed. Sure, Monbiot claims the fudging of what he extremely optimistically puts as just “three or four” scientists doesn’t knock over the whole global warming edifice, yet… If even Monbiot, an extremist, can say that much, why cannot the Liberals say far more? And will now the legion of warmist journalists in our own media dare say as Monbiot has so belatedly: I apologise. I was too trusting of some of those who provided the evidence I championed. I would have been a better journalist if I had investigated their claims more closely. Scepticism is the essential disposition of our craft, yet too many journalists have abandoned it. Remember: the opposite of sceptical is gullible.
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom |
|
|
|
|
|
#68 (permalink) |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 180
|
l'd be suprised that if perhaps one may read your stuff (Icon) If
you are serious provide a summary about what you do -outline points instead constant rhertic you deliver . Could make difference with punters ! ![]()
|
|
|
|
|
|
#69 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
AGW CLIMATE CHANGE IS A FRAUD
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom |
|
|
|
|
|
#70 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
Emergency Viral: ClimateGate Fraud Exposes Dirty Tricks Agenda For Global Government
Alex Jones Channel Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com » Emergency Viral: ClimateGate Fraud Exposes Dirty Tricks Agenda For Global Government Monday, November 23, 2009 Kurt Nimmo Prison Planet.com Monday, November 23, 2009 Globalist minion Al Gore and the United Nations climate change shysters led by Phil Jones are in trouble. Last week hackers uncovered a pile of email and documents revealing what many of us already knew — the climate change agenda is based not only on easily debunked junk science, but outright lies and deception. In the wake of the damning revelations exposed by these anonymous hackers, the climate change snake oil salesmen Gore and his complaisant entourage of now discredited scientists are in full retreat. Even the corporate media — guilty of peddling the fabrication of man-made climate change for years with the best propaganda money can buy — are desperately scrambling to put the best spin possible on the emerging travesty. In the above video, Alex Jones examines the startling revelations of the CRU files and spells out what it means for the global elite who have planned to use the ruse to impose crippling carbon taxes and put the finishing touches on their global totalitarian super-state and its accompanying control and slave grid. Infowars and Prison Planet are now feverishly going through the documents and will post the result in the hours and days ahead. In the meantime, here are a few quotes from the perpetrators: The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on 2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our observing system is inadequate. Kevin Trenberth <trenbert@ucar.edu> I seem to be getting an email a week from skeptics saying where’s the warming gone. I know the warming is on the decadal scale, but it would be nice to wear their smug grins away. Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk> In any case, if the sulfate hypothesis is right, then your prediction of warming might end up being wrong. I think we have been too readily explaining the slow changes over past decade as a result of variability–that explanation is wearing thin. I would just suggest, as a backup to your prediction, that you also do some checking on the sulfate issue, just so you might have a quantified explanation in case the prediction is wrong. Otherwise, the Skeptics will be all over us–the world is really cooling, the models are no good, etc. And all this just as the US is about ready to get serious on the issue. Mike MacCracken <mmaccrac@comcast.net> Ironically, the E1-IMAGE scenario runs, although much cooler in the long term of course, are considerably warmer than A1B-AR4 for several decades! Also – relevant to your statement – A1B-AR4 runs show potential for a distinct lack of warming in the early 21st C, which I’m sure skeptics would love to see replicated in the real world… (See the attached plot for illustration but please don’t circulate this any further as these are results in progress, not yet shared with other ENSEMBLES partners let alone published). Tim Johns <tim.johns@metoffice.gov.uk> Your final sentence though about improvements in reviewing and traceability is a bit of a hostage to fortune. The skeptics will try to hang on to something, but I don’t want to give them something clearly tangible. Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk> Looks pretty good to me. Only one issue. In our discussion of possible participants in Bern, I think (someone correct me if I’m wrong) we concluded that the last two on the list (w/ question marks) would be unwise choices because they are likely to cause conflict than to contribute to concensus [sic] and progress. Christoph Kull <christoph.kull@pages.unibe.ch> Mike, I agree very much with the above sentiment. My concern was motivated by the possibility of expressing an impression of more concensus than might actually exist . I suppose the earlier talk implying that we should not ‘muddy the waters’ by including contradictory evidence worried me. IPCC is supposed to represent concensus but also areas of uncertainty in the evidence. Of course where there are good reasons for the differences in series (such as different seasonal responses or geographic bias) it is equally important not to overstress the discrepancies or suggest contradiction where it does not exist. Keith Briffa <k.briffa@uea.ac.uk> The key thing is making sure the series are vertically aligned in a reasonable way. I had been using the entire 20th century, but in the case of Keith’s, we need to align the first half of the 20th century w/ the corresponding mean values of the other series, due to the late 20th century decline. So, if we show Keith’s series in this plot, we have to comment that “something else” is responsible for the discrepancies in this case. Otherwise, the skeptics have an field day casting doubt on our ability to understand the factors that influence these estimates and, thus, can undermine faith in the paleoestimates. Michael E. Mann <mann@multiproxy.evsc.virginia.edu> RELATED: Global Warming On Trial: Inhofe Calls For Investigation Of UN IPCC RELATED: “Climategate”: Peer-Review System Was Hijacked By Warming Alarmists RELATED: Call For Independent Inquiry Into Climategate as Global Warming Fraud Implodes RELATED: Climatic Research Unit Hacked E Mails & Data (Full File Of Hacked E Mails)
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom |
|
|
|
|
|
#71 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom |
|
|
|
|
|
#72 (permalink) |
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 180
|
Global warming as scientist's may have it maybe death nell humankind
But lot of data which they produce is doesnt stack up its rort . There's no general consensus amongst science community because you keep hearing it may not exist . Many pockets around world are cooling down not warming up as scientist's may have it .Even leading scientist in Australia Tim flannery who was concerned about overpopulation and Environment of this country he believes now that earth in last 10 years we've gone through a slight cooling trend .According to Tim the computer modelling and the real world data disagree now . Many scientists can make outrageous claims so they can be supported in there coming projects should they be accountable for misleading assumptions ,we are suppose to trust them .If we can't trust them who do realie on for our science explanation . god ? |
|
|
|
|
|
#73 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
BBC Climate Correspondent Was Forwarded CRU Emails Five Weeks Before They Were Made Public
A BBC Weather presenter who was discussed by scientists in the “climategate” emails says he was forwarded the material more than five weeks before it was made public on the internet. 86 Comments Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren involved in unwinding “Climategate” scandal Lift up a rock and another snake comes slithering out from the ongoing University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit (CRU) scandal, now riding as “Climategate”. 43 Comments Climate Expert: “Compromised” UN Scientists should be excluded from IPCC, Peer-Review Process A prominent German scientist who was attacked in the leaked CRU emails by UN affiliated climate scientists has stated that the group should be barred from taking part in the peer-review process and excluded from the International Panel on Climate Change. 28 Comments Forget The Emails, Code Discusses “Artificially Adjusted” Temperatures Although the majority of the attention around ClimateGate has focused on emails exchanged between CRU scientists, the real smoking gun proving deception and fraud can be found in the code of climate models which prove that temperature numbers were “artificially adjusted” to hide the decline in global warming since the 1960’s. 50 Comments “Climate Gate” Development: CEI Files Notice of Intent to Sue NASA Today, on behalf of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, I filed three Notices of Intent to File Suit against NASA and its Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), for those bodies’ refusal – for nearly three years – to provide documents requested under the Freedom of Information Act. 23 Comments Climate Alarmists Finally Admit The Debate Is Not Over Top climate alarmists have conceded that the climategate scandal represents a huge blow to the global warming movement and that the debate is not over, and yet establishment media organs are still invoking South Park’s Officer Barbrady in downplaying the story despite the fact that it clearly illustrates how evidence which directly disproves global warming is being censored by agenda-driven scientists. 87 Comments Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com ![]() Trilateralist Replaces Bilderberger to Chair Copenhagen Summit Kurt Nimmo | EU president Van Rompuy has said the “climate conference in Copenhagen is another step towards the global management of our planet.” 175 Comments Hacked climate emails include calls for ‘Earth Government’ as foundation of new world order, splitting of America Infowars | One of the hacked climate emails apparently calls for an “Earth Government” based upon a ‘democratic’ world government 127 Comments WTO Director General: Global Governance Based on the EU Model Daniel Taylor | Herman Van Rompuy has stated that the upcoming Copenhagen climate change treaty “…is another step towards the global management of our planet.” 87 Comments Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom Last edited by Axiom : 11-25-2009 at 10:18 PM |
|
|
|
|
|
#74 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom |
|
|
|
|
|
#75 (permalink) |
|
Reality Analyst
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Australia
Posts: 3,498
|
A Message to the Environmental Movement: Your Movement Has Been Hijacked
James Corbett The Corbett Report November 25, 2009 Transcript: You the environmentalists, you the activists, you the campaigners. You who have watched with growing concern the ways in which the world around us has been ravaged in the pursuit of the almighty dollar. You who are concerned with the state of the planet that we are leaving for our children and our grandchildren and those generations yet unborn. This is not a message of divisiveness, but cooperation. This is a message of hope and empowerment, but it requires us to look at a hard and uncomfortable truth: Your movement has been usurped by the very same financial interests you thought you were fighting against. You have suspected as much for years. You watched at first with hope and excitement as your movement, your cause, your message began to spread, as it was taken up by the media and given attention, as conferences were organized and as the ideas you had struggled so long and hard to be heard were talked about nationally. Then internationally. You watched with growing unease as the message was simplified. First it became a slogan. Then it became a brand. Soon it was nothing more than a label and it became attached to products. The ideas you had once fought for were now being sold back to you. For profit. You watched with growing unease as the message became parroted, not argued, worn like a fashion rather than something that came from the conviction of understanding. You disagreed when the slogans–and then the science–were dumbed down. When carbon dioxide became the focus and CO2 was taken up as a political cause. Soon it was the only cause. You knew that Al Gore was not a scientist, that his evidence was factually incorrect, that the movement was being taken over by a cause that was not your own, one that relied on beliefs you did not share to propose a solution you did not want. It began to reach a breaking point when you saw that the solutions being proposed were not solutions at all, when they began to propose new taxes and new markets that would only serve to line their own pockets. You knew something was wrong when you saw them argue for a cap-and-trade scheme proposed by Ken Lay, when you saw Goldman Sachs position itself to ride the carbon trading bubble, when the whole thrust of the movement became ways to make money or spend money or raise money from this panic. Your movement had been hijacked. The realization came the first time you read The Club of Rome’s 1991 book, The First Global Revolution, which says: “In searching for a common enemy against whom we can unite, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like, would fit the bill. In their totality and their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which must be confronted by everyone together. But in designating these dangers as the enemy, we fall into the trap, which we have already warned readers about, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention in natural processes, and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself.” And when you looked at the Club of Rome’s elite member roster. And when you learnt about eugenics and the Rockefeller ties to the Kaiser Willhelm Institute and the practice of crypto-eugenics and the rise of overpopulation fearmongering and the call by elitist after elitist after elitist to cull the world population. Still, you wanted to believe that there was some basis of truth, something real and valuable in the single-minded obsession of this hijacked environmental movement with manmade global warming. Now, in November 2009, the last traces of doubt have been removed. Last week, an insider leaked internal documents and emails from the Climate Research Unit of East Anglia University and exposed the lies, manipulation and fraud behind the studies that supposedly show 0.6 degrees Celsius of warming over the last 130 years. And the hockey stick graph that supposedly shows unprecedented warming in our times. And the alarmist warning of impending climate disaster. We now know that these scientists wrote programming notes in the source code of their own climate models admitting that results were being manually adjusted. We now know that values were being adjusted to conform to scientists’ wishes, not reality. We now know that the peer review process itself was being perverted to exclude those scientists whose work criticized their findings. We now know that these scientists privately expressed doubts about the science that they publicly claimed to be settled. We now know, in short, that they were lying. It is unknown as yet what the fallout will be from all of this, but it is evident that the fallout will be substantial. With this crisis, however, comes an opportunity. An opportunity to recapture the movement that the financiers have stolen from the people. Together, we can demand a full and independent investigation into all of the researchers whose work was implicated in the CRU affair. We can demand a full re-evaluation of all those studies whose conclusions have been thrown into question by these revelations, and all of the public policy that has been based on those studies. We can establish new standards of transparency for scientists whose work is taxpayer funded and/or whose work effects public policy, so that everyone has full and equal access to the data used to calculate results and all of the source code used in all of the programs used to model that data. In other words, we can reaffirm that no cause is worth supporting that requires deception for its propagation. Even more importantly, we can take back the environmental movement. We can begin to concentrate on the serious questions that need to be asked about the genetic engineering technology whereby hybrid organisms and new, never-before-seen proteins that are being released into the biosphere in a giant, uncontrolled experiment that threatens the very genome of life on this planet. We can look into the environmental causes of the explosion in cancer and the staggering drops in fertility over the last 50 years, including the BPA in our plastics and the anti-androgens in the water. We can examine regulatory agencies that are controlled by the very corporations they are supposedly watching over. We can begin focusing on depleted uranium and the dumping of toxic waste into the rivers and all of the issues that we once knew were part of the mandate of the real environmental movement. Or we can, as some have, descend into petty partisan politics. We can decide that lies are OK if they support ‘our’ side. We can defend the reprehensible actions of the CRU researchers and rally around the green flag that has long since been captured by the enemy. It is a simple decision to make, but one that we must make quickly, before the argument can be spun away and environmentalism can go back to business as usual. We are at a crossroads of history. And make no mistake, history will be the final judge of our actions. So I leave you today with a simple question: Which side of history do you want to be on?
__________________
"Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom |
|
|
|
![]() |
| Thread Tools | |
| Rate This Thread | |
|
|