Climate Change - Page 3 - OzChess

**AzzX** · 02-01-2009, 11:39 PM

I agree climate change doesn't just constitute global warming though. There are a number of factors and contributing elements and as Jaz mentioned, things like orbital and solar variations. Human induced climate change is what we have to worry about in the short term.
Colonisation of other planets just seems like a fairy tale.

**Just2Good** · 02-02-2009, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by AzzX

Colonisation of other planets just seems like a fairy tale.

Clearly the science isn't there yet to make this a reality, but I do think eventually it will become achievable.

**Jaz** · 02-03-2009, 06:28 AM

I don't think worrying ever helped anyone and I think its the same with climate change. The first thing should be finding out if it is induced by humans. The truth is that nobody knows. Furthermore we don't know if we can stop it and then how to stop it, but we are already collecting carbon taxes, banning plasma tv's, are (talking about) killing cows and other cattle, because they fart too much and contribute for more CO2 in the atmosphere. It is not a joke.

**Just2Good** · 02-03-2009, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Jaz

...we are already ... talking about killing cows and other cattle, because they fart too much ... It is not a joke.

Well, it sounds funny!

**Axiom Support Group** · 02-03-2009, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

Well, it sounds funny!

Haha I had a yummy hamburger today for lunch and didn't even think about the killing the cow part

**Simon** · 02-06-2009, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom Support Group

Haha I had a yummy hamburger today for lunch and didn't even think about the killing the cow part

That makes you a vegan

**Firegoat7** · 03-01-2009, 01:42 AM

Hi,

This latest global warming news from New Scientist is quite disturbing.
Here is the link....How to survive the coming century - environment - 25 February 2009 - New Scientist

I found this quote quite bemusing "...Humans are in a pretty difficult position and I don't think they are clever enough to handle what's ahead. I think they'll survive as a species all right, but the cull during this century is going to be huge," he says. "The number remaining at the end of the century will probably be a billion or less."

I can just hear those religous peckerhead types ranting....repent the end of the world is nigh....

cheers,

**Axiom** · 03-01-2009, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

Hi,

This latest global warming news from New Scientist is quite disturbing.
Here is the link....How to survive the coming century - environment - 25 February 2009 - New Scientist

I found this quote quite bemusing "...Humans are in a pretty difficult position and I don't think they are clever enough to handle what's ahead. I think they'll survive as a species all right, but the cull during this century is going to be huge," he says. "The number remaining at the end of the century will probably be a billion or less."

I can just hear those religous peckerhead types ranting....repent the end of the world is nigh....

cheers,

Certainly great PR for the eugenics agenda

**Just2Good** · 03-01-2009, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

I found this quote quite bemusing "...Humans are in a pretty difficult position and I don't think they are clever enough to handle what's ahead. I think they'll survive as a species all right, but the cull during this century is going to be huge," he says. "The number remaining at the end of the century will probably be a billion or less."

To be fair there is a school of thought that says the world is probably over populated, including countries like Australia which should have around 15 million people at most. The Malthusian theory already stated that human death would result from things like food shortages, climate change, etc, so that concept is not really very novel.

**Jaz** · 03-02-2009, 04:36 AM

Australian Government Spends 17 million Dollars To Get Farm Animals To Fart less!

"In its ongoing quest to reduce the emissions of gases blamed for climate change - and placate grumbling green activists - the Australian government has earmarked 17 million dollars for research into how to prevent the country's 120 million farm animals from emitting so much me"

So basically the taxmoney goes into researching BS, literally.

**AzzX** · 03-02-2009, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jaz

So basically the taxmoney goes into researching BS, literally.

Nothing much has changed then

In a radio interview, Burke acknowledged that Australian farmers would have to pay for the new project, through increased transportation and input costs.

That's from the article and proves yet again what little thought has gone into this 17 million project.

85 million sheep
31 million beef
3 million goats

Just pay for a refillable filter to be strapped to the animals backside and charge the people that eat the product - problem solved

**cume** · 03-03-2009, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Arragont-One

To be fair there is a school of thought that says the world is probably over populated, including countries like Australia which should have around 15 million people at most

As far as the cities go. If only Australia had cities in the middle of the country in desert areas like in America. Instead the biggest you can get are places like Alice Springs, Broken Hill and Mount Isa.

**Jaz** · 03-12-2009, 01:48 AM

EU Lunatics Want to Tax Livestock Farts

I think it couldn't get more absurd than that, oh I think it can - next, lets tax breathing, I'm sure air will get much cleaner that way just like with the carbon and soon livestock taxes. I think it is utter rubbish. They havent't even proved that human activity causes global warming and they are already taxing the s*** out of us.

**Axiom** · 03-16-2009, 03:37 AM

Nobody listens to the real climate change experts - Telegraph

**Just2Good** · 03-16-2009, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

Nobody listens to the real climate change experts - Telegraph

The link won't work for me. Can you please cut and paste it and then use quote tags?

02-01-2009, 11:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
AzzX Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 109	I agree climate change doesn't just constitute global warming though. There are a number of factors and contributing elements and as Jaz mentioned, things like orbital and solar variations. Human induced climate change is what we have to worry about in the short term. Colonisation of other planets just seems like a fairy tale. __________________ azzx.org ozsource

02-02-2009, 05:00 PM	#32 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by AzzX Colonisation of other planets just seems like a fairy tale. Clearly the science isn't there yet to make this a reality, but I do think eventually it will become achievable. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

02-03-2009, 01:33 PM	#34 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Jaz ...we are already ... talking about killing cows and other cattle, because they fart too much ... It is not a joke. Well, it sounds funny! __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

02-03-2009, 03:59 PM	#35 (permalink)
Axiom Support Group Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Laku, Ishmaelia Posts: 137	Originally Posted by Arrogant-One Well, it sounds funny! Haha I had a yummy hamburger today for lunch and didn't even think about the killing the cow part

02-06-2009, 01:06 PM	#36 (permalink)
Simon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 162	Originally Posted by Axiom Support Group Haha I had a yummy hamburger today for lunch and didn't even think about the killing the cow part That makes you a vegan

02-03-2009, 06:28 AM	#33 (permalink)
Jaz Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 87	I don't think worrying ever helped anyone and I think its the same with climate change. The first thing should be finding out if it is induced by humans. The truth is that nobody knows. Furthermore we don't know if we can stop it and then how to stop it, but we are already collecting carbon taxes, banning plasma tv's, are (talking about) killing cows and other cattle, because they fart too much and contribute for more CO2 in the atmosphere. It is not a joke.

03-01-2009, 01:42 AM	#37 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 1,924 ICC Handle: guest	more doom and gloom.... Hi, This latest global warming news from New Scientist is quite disturbing. Here is the link....How to survive the coming century - environment - 25 February 2009 - New Scientist I found this quote quite bemusing "...Humans are in a pretty difficult position and I don't think they are clever enough to handle what's ahead. I think they'll survive as a species all right, but the cull during this century is going to be huge," he says. "The number remaining at the end of the century will probably be a billion or less." I can just hear those religous peckerhead types ranting....repent the end of the world is nigh.... cheers, __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

03-01-2009, 02:20 AM	#38 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 Hi, This latest global warming news from New Scientist is quite disturbing. Here is the link....How to survive the coming century - environment - 25 February 2009 - New Scientist I found this quote quite bemusing "...Humans are in a pretty difficult position and I don't think they are clever enough to handle what's ahead. I think they'll survive as a species all right, but the cull during this century is going to be huge," he says. "The number remaining at the end of the century will probably be a billion or less." I can just hear those religous peckerhead types ranting....repent the end of the world is nigh.... cheers, Certainly great PR for the eugenics agenda

03-01-2009, 11:49 AM	#39 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 I found this quote quite bemusing "...Humans are in a pretty difficult position and I don't think they are clever enough to handle what's ahead. I think they'll survive as a species all right, but the cull during this century is going to be huge," he says. "The number remaining at the end of the century will probably be a billion or less." To be fair there is a school of thought that says the world is probably over populated, including countries like Australia which should have around 15 million people at most. The Malthusian theory already stated that human death would result from things like food shortages, climate change, etc, so that concept is not really very novel. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

03-02-2009, 04:36 AM	#40 (permalink)
Jaz Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 87	Australian Government Spends 17 million Dollars To Get Farm Animals To Fart less! "In its ongoing quest to reduce the emissions of gases blamed for climate change - and placate grumbling green activists - the Australian government has earmarked 17 million dollars for research into how to prevent the country's 120 million farm animals from emitting so much me" So basically the taxmoney goes into researching BS, literally.

03-02-2009, 11:18 PM	#41 (permalink)
AzzX Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 109	Originally Posted by Jaz So basically the taxmoney goes into researching BS, literally. Nothing much has changed then In a radio interview, Burke acknowledged that Australian farmers would have to pay for the new project, through increased transportation and input costs. That's from the article and proves yet again what little thought has gone into this 17 million project. 85 million sheep 31 million beef 3 million goats Just pay for a refillable filter to be strapped to the animals backside and charge the people that eat the product - problem solved __________________ azzx.org ozsource

03-03-2009, 01:57 PM	#42 (permalink)
cume Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: New South Wales Posts: 94	Originally Posted by Arragont-One To be fair there is a school of thought that says the world is probably over populated, including countries like Australia which should have around 15 million people at most As far as the cities go. If only Australia had cities in the middle of the country in desert areas like in America. Instead the biggest you can get are places like Alice Springs, Broken Hill and Mount Isa.

03-12-2009, 01:48 AM	#43 (permalink)
Jaz Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 87	EU Lunatics Want to Tax Livestock Farts I think it couldn't get more absurd than that, oh I think it can - next, lets tax breathing, I'm sure air will get much cleaner that way just like with the carbon and soon livestock taxes. I think it is utter rubbish. They havent't even proved that human activity causes global warming and they are already taxing the s*** out of us.

03-16-2009, 03:37 AM	#44 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Nobody listens to the real climate change experts - Telegraph

03-16-2009, 04:42 PM	#45 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Axiom Nobody listens to the real climate change experts - Telegraph The link won't work for me. Can you please cut and paste it and then use quote tags? __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

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