Axiom

HIGHLY INFORMATIVE LECTURE ON HISTORY AND REALITY BY LIBERTARIAN HERO - JACK OTTO



First of 6 parts , i implore you to listen to it all, http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...o&search_type= keep an open mind,research yourself the points in this talk

Iconoclast

Hang on! Isn't this forbidden knowledge? Can we we be arrested?

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Arrogant-One

This guy is a complete nut!

Apparently, according to him, 92% of people 'who think they are Jews', are not really Jews, rather they are something called "Kazar Warriors", and their mission in life is to rape and pillage.

Axiom, you don't really believe this stuff do you?

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Iconoclast

I listened to the whole spiel (6 reels). This is not what was being presented as being true of Jews today.

However, there is plenty of interesting facts in his story. I enjoyed it, but I am not yet buying the "conspiracy" bit.

I would like to see a reference list for his facts.

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Axiom

you must study this real history of the khazars

Axiom

thankyou for listening to it all, and the few points of interest you derived, is valuable enough;
it surely is just a piece, a clue, a prompt to the puzzle.

i really only want to touch the nerve of curiosity.

without our own questioning and are own research we can learn little.


i am convinced , of this much , we are at best inadequately informed as a whole, and at worst, chronically mal-informed.

Fischer-Fan

i saw a few minutes of the clip. the interesting part when when he said rothchild was from the 1700's, and that rothchild is german for red shield. the rest of the clip is enetertaining too, but it think that was his main point even though i only saw about half of it.

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Iconoclast

Ax, in every field of controversy, there are a few well respected academics or investigative journalists. For example, Robert Fisk on the Middle East, Daniel Dennett on religiosity, Tim Flannery on species extinction. Who can you point to who has five star credibility on the "Info Wars.''

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Axiom

listen to alan watt , he joins dots together , big picture thinking with strong history angle , many audio lectures here http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

also john stadtmiller "intelligence report" (rbn network) ,

john taylor gatto on schooling/education http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/

kurt nimmo writer


"It is the first duty of intelligent men to restate the obvious." G.Orwell

Iconoclast

I have been wandering through alan watt, JTG et al. and ummm, it does not appear to be 5 start. For example, when I read Naom Chomsky - a well known crusader against the mal-information in modern media - I can find quality references that corroborate his thesis. He goes no further in his assertion, than his evidence allows. Therefore, he has 5 star credibility. I am wondering if there is some fair dinkum scholarly work to show illuminati are on the cusp of world domination.

Ax, when technology or fashion or politics are moving one way or another, it is not proof of "conspiracy. It is not even proof of a purpose. I am not saying that the way society and technology is going is not of some concern, only that I do not believe there is much evidence that it is running to a master plan.

I need some robust evidence.

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Axiom

Would the elite's own words help ?

Also who is behind the centralising of control in the EU , NAU , APAC ?

What do you think groups like the CFR , Tri Lateral Commission, Bilderberg group ,Bohemian Grove and Skull and Bones are there for ?

How aware of the history elite power and secret societies are you ?

Are you familiar with Albert Pike and his letter written in 1871 ?

General Albert Pike [1809~1891] 33rd degree, Sovereign Grand Master of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Free Masonry, Co-Founder of the Ku Klux Klan and Supreme Luciferian Pontiff. .. in a letter to Mazzini, August 15th, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.

Status of Document: There is contention as to whether or not this document ever existed, been supressed or destroyed, so this is the 'reputed' history - This letter was on display briefly in the British Museum Library, London, and it was copied by William Guy Carr. Carr was a former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy and detailed this letter in his book 'Satan: Prince of This World', 1928. Carr learned about the letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote 'The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled' 1925?.
"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the 'agentur' (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions."



"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm."



"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the 'agentur' of the 'Illuminati' between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion.

We shall unleash the Nihilists and the Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute Atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." [A. Pike]

now acutely and objectively view the world around you now .

Iconoclast

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No. I want to know more about the veracity of the "document."

There are so many fraudulent "documents" used by unreliable people that we/you/I must determine the veracity of the document BEFORE assessing it. Call me a sceptic, but this "document" smells like Eric Von Daniken and Nostradamus out on a pranking night together.

More information please.

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Axiom

i thought the same thing as i posted it , confident though that i had verified corroberated its existance as fact, i had something from the british mueum itself , will dig it out for you.
you are quite correct to point this out.

( even the predictions of ww3 alone ,is remarkable enough !)

Arrogant-One

Another over glorified academic who isn't worth the $25 to $50 his books cost (or the time needed to read them). Let's put him in the same basket as Richard Dawkins and close the lid quickly.

Don't feel bad, you got farther than I did!

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... for it is always the person not in the predicament who knows what ought to have been done in it, and would unquestionably have done it too . . .

~ Charles Dickens novel ~

Axiom

after checking my sources , i now unreservedly withdraw the pike letter as evidence.
a most salutory lesson.
apologies and thankyou icono

will re-reply shortly