Firegoat7

Greetings,


Taking up Axioms challenge we can begin our informed group communication by starting here-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group
I think this is a reasonable place to begin. Now I challenge anybody to state five empirically confirmed facts.

I will begin.

1.- The group does exist.
2.- The group meets generally once a year.
3.- The groups reports are secret
4.- Paul Wolfowitz is a member of this group.
5.- The group promotes Conservative/Libertarian values.

Knowledge is a circle

So.... Who ever posts next can you confirm or judge my 5 stated facts with Yes/Unclear or No and then state five of your own! (with a linked source)

cheers Fg7

Arrogant-One

This doesn't seem like a big deal at all! Who cares if a bunch of politicians and royal family members have a 'secret' annual meeting?

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Iconoclast

That's good enough for me to declare total jihad. Where can I get some Semtex?

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Axiom

only, except politicians make decisions that effect all our lives !

Axiom

just make sure the semtex is jihadi in origin as opposed to the anthrax in 2001 !

Firegoat7

Hello,


This aint working the way I pictured it working. Lets presume my fact list is

1.Yes 2.Yes 3.Yes 4.Yes 5.Yes Has anyone got another 5 facts from any information source on the Bilderberg group?
That way we ought to be able to gradually build a realistic picture.

cheers Fg7

Firegoat7

Lol. C'mon AO build the fact sheet. Name five politicians or royal family members who are members of the Bilderberg group!

cheers Fg7

Firegoat7

C'mon Axiom if you are morally outraged name 5 politicians from the Bilderberg group who have affected our lives! Give me 5 facts!!

cheers Fg7

Virgil

I hope my politicians make decisions, and network with other 'connected people'.
And it is hardly secret is it.

Axiom

problem is the bilderberg meeting content IS secret !

Axiom

1. "I don't think it's true to say that we want to keep it [Bilderberg] out [of the public consciousness], we never wanted to get it in. We don't encourage people to mention it in the mainstream press because we don't encourage idle speculation about what we do. ...... We forbid individual attendees from giving press meetings at our conferences, and we do that not because we're secrecy mad, but because we want to control the politicians who come." Martin Taylor - Secretary General, Bilderberg - interviewed by Jon Ronson for the UK Channel 4 TV programme 'Secret Rulers of the World' transmitted 27Jun01

2.The Bilderberg Group is a group of influential people, mostly politicians and business people, whose existence and activities are private, and due to its secretive nature is the subject of numerous conspiracy theories. The group meets annually at five-star resorts throughout the world, normally in Europe, although sometimes in America or Canada. It has an office in Leiden, South Holland.

Although the group has no official name, the “Bilderberg Group” title comes from what is generally recognized to be the location of its first official meeting in 1954: the Bilderberg Hotel in Arnhem, the Netherlands.

3.The stated reason for the group’s secrecy is that it enables people to speak freely without the need to carefully consider how every word might be interpreted by the mass media. However, as many of the attendees have gained their power through the democratic process, it is debatable if it is morally desirable for them to exercise their power off the record

4.Attendees of Bilderberg include central bankers, defense experts, mass media press barons, government ministers, prime ministers, royalty, international financiers and political leaders from Europe and America.Some of the Western world’s leading financiers and foreign policy strategists attend Bilderberg. Donald Rumsfeld is an active Bilderberger - so is Peter Sutherland from Ireland, a former European Union commissioner and chairman of Goldman Sachs and of BP. Rumsfeld and Sutherland served together in 2000 on the board of the Swedish/Swiss energy company ABB. Former US Deputy Defense Secretary and current World Bank head Paul Wolfowitz is also a member, as is Roger Boothe, Jr. The group’s current chairman is Étienne Davignon, the Belgian politician and businessman.

5. Attendees 2006

Firegoat7

Lol,

Axiom always running when others walking.

cheers fg7

Axiom

my apologies.

ok, its up to others now to follow their natural curiousity, and report back here new factual information.

Axiom

Firegoat7

Hi,

here is my slow attempt at re-interpreting Axioms facts.

Fact1-: Martin Taylor is/or was a secretary General of Bilderberg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Taylor_(businessman)

Fact2-: Jon Rowson is a documentary filmmaker, amongst other things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Ronson

Fact3-: UK Channel 4 aired the documentary in the public media. http://www.channel4.com/about4/overview.html This website states that "The Corporation's board is appointed by OFCOM in agreement with the Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.

Fact 4-: According to Martin Taylor, the Bildenberg group "...want to control the politicians who come." Now control may not mean influence, it may mean limit in this context.
Fact 5-: Tessa_Jowell was the 2001 Secretary of state for Culture,Media and Sport. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tessa_Jowell


Lots of questions Axiom, but lets get our facts agreed on before we move forward.

cheers Fg7