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Old 01-08-2012, 04:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Two Black Americans were elected to congress this cycle, and both are Republican: Colonel West is from southern Florida . He won in a walk.

This new Congressman was an extremely popular commander in Iraq . He was forced to retire because during an intense combat action a few of his men were captured. At the same time his men captured one of the guys who were with the Iraqis who captured his men.

Knowing that time was crucial and his interrogators were not getting anywhere with the prisoner, Col. West took matters into his own hands. He burst into the room and demanded thru an interpreter that the prisoner tell him where his men were being taken. The prisoner refused so Col. West took out his pistol and placed it into the prisoner's crotch and fired. Then the Col. told the prisoner that the next shot would not miss. So the prisoner said he would show where the American service members were being taken. The Americans were rescued. Someone filed a report on incorrect handling of prisoners. Col. West was forced to retire. Col. West was elected in November 2010 to Congress from Florida .



During the elections he was part of a panel on how to handle or how to relate to Muslims. You will see his answer here explaining in just over a minute the truth about Islam.



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Two Black Americans were elected to congress this cycle, and both are Republican: Colonel West is from southern Florida . He won in a walk.

This new Congressman was an extremely popular commander in Iraq . He was forced to retire because during an intense combat action a few of his men were captured. At the same time his men captured one of the guys who were with the Iraqis who captured his men.

Knowing that time was crucial and his interrogators were not getting anywhere with the prisoner, Col. West took matters into his own hands. He burst into the room and demanded thru an interpreter that the prisoner tell him where his men were being taken. The prisoner refused so Col. West took out his pistol and placed it into the prisoner's crotch and fired. Then the Col. told the prisoner that the next shot would not miss. So the prisoner said he would show where the American service members were being taken. The Americans were rescued. Someone filed a report on incorrect handling of prisoners. Col. West was forced to retire. Col. West was elected in November 2010 to Congress from Florida .



During the elections he was part of a panel on how to handle or how to relate to Muslims. You will see his answer here explaining in just over a minute the truth about Islam.



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Ok so all he has done is cite the numerous battles with muslims over the centuries , whilst at the same time omitting the reasons for those conflicts . Instead relying on the listener to conjure up an image of expansionist conquering hordes from the mid east.
I would ask that you more closely examine these historical events to see which sides were in fact the instigating violent expansionists.

In return i'd like you to watch this video , also relatively brief at 5 minutes and enough facts to make you question again, prescribed history .




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Can you say ......... "Propaganda" ?
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Can you say ......... "Propaganda" ?
What A.C. puts out is pure Propaganda.
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What A.C. puts out is pure Propaganda.
but I am not a Muslim
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What A.C. puts out is pure Propaganda.
Maybe so , but could you stick to the subject matter of your thread which is the "muslim threat" ?
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I gave chinese BBQ pork to a Muslim once and he loved it so I have done my bit
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Cannot wait for the follow up thread "Dealing with Aetheists"
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One way to deal with them is the extremely intelligent Ron Paul way ie . not bomb them over phantom excuses like wmds (iraq) or 9/11 (afgh) and generally not indiscriminately bomb them including the killing of a million iraqis for reasons of oil or for some nebulous mysterious geo political motives (Israel's ? ) .
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i did not agree with 9/11 response at all, should have just to protect usa within its own boundaries
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WHY WE SHOULD FEAR ZIONISM MORE THAN ISLAM
By Rev. Ted Pike
10 Jul 07

Once, as I was speaking to an appreciative audience, a fly turned his undivided attention to me. Round and round he flew, landing on my nose, forehead, even lips. I sputtered and tried to ignore him. I couldn’t. I tried to swat him. You know it’s futile. The audience grew both embarrassed and amused as my speech was brought to a standstill by the power of the fly.

This tiny creature controlled the auditorium with his power to disrupt. He harmed my presentation, maybe my public image. But I wasn’t physically hurt, nor was my audience. The fly’s power was disproportionate to his size but was only the power to annoy, not destroy. Afterwards, life went on as usual for the dispersed audience, the institution where I spoke, and me.

My metaphor of the fly serves my premise: Powers of disruption do not necessarily equal lasting, substantive power – power that belongs to great nations and compelling systems of thought. In the six years since September 11, Islamic militancy (outside of Iraq) remains, not unlike my pesky fly, more of an irritant to the west than a force capable of truly overcoming our civilization.

Terrorists, apparently Islamic, recently struck in Scotland and England. Their attempts were bungled, but they reinforced the media-heightened conviction that Islamofascism is the western world’s greatest threat today. But is it?

Although possibly masterminded by Mossad, 9/11, carried out by Muslim hijackers, was an unprecedented outrage and tragedy. Yet it happened, like Pearl Harbor, to a nation whose guard was down. Today, relatively speaking, the guard of the world is raised. Could something like 9/11 happen again? Yes. But it is not necessary to agree that Islam is the west’s greatest threat in order to keep it from happening.

As a result of Israel's oppression and expulsion of the Palestinians over the past 75 years, the Arab world has been driven to frenzy. The largest percentage of terrorist crimes committed by a single ethnic/religious group is committed by Islamic radicals. Yet, despite the impression given by mainstream news media, these terrorist attacks against Israel and the West since 9/11 constitute no more than 25 percent of such violence worldwide. Most terrorist acts are committed by nationalist and Marxist insurgents, from Peru to Uzbekistan. (See List of Terrorist Incidents) The feared “power” of Islamic militancy to actually create disasters like 9/11 has not materialized. But there is a power that can destroy the freedoms and moral values of the west, corrupting us from within.

Who Could Destroy Christian Civilization?

In contrast to the violent external disruptions of radical Islam, another power presents an even greater and dangerously unrecognized threat. It is the power of organized world Jewry—an elite and focused minority of Jews largely operating under the direction of ADL/B’nai B’rith International. This aggressive and powerful minority is intent on fulfilling their Talmudic religious mandate to “repair the universe” (tikkun olam) through worldwide control and destruction of Christianity and other “idolatry.”

For at least the past two centuries, Jewish revolutionary activists have pursued and attained positions of highest influence in western industrialized nations. These nations remain the dominant industrial, military, financial, economic, cultural, and educational powerhouses for the world. Jewish control of them is real abiding power. Consider the following realities.

In 1913, as a result of the most concentrated lobbying efforts by international Jewish bankers and their American representative, J.P. Morgan, Congress created the Federal Reserve System. Today, the Fed is owned not by the federal government and the American people but by a consortium of primarily European Jewish banking houses, members of whom also financed the Bolshevik revolution and Hitler. They control the money system in the United States , just as they have in Europe. Paper currency is created for pennies; then they loan it at face value to the US government. Interest on such loans charged to the American people totals at least $150 billion annually, which exponentially increases our federal deficit. The total debt, tens of trillions, is too staggering to ever fully repay. 1

During the first part of this century, European Jewish immigrants created the Hollywood film industry and what became the “Big Three” TV networks. Jews dominate entertainment and news media today, arguably the most influential part of our society. Today Jewish editors, writers, publishers and owners also control most of the largest newspaper and book publishing houses in America. No other social force has played as large a part in corrupting American culture and morals during the last century as the Jewish entertainment and news media. (See Jews Confirm Big Media Is Jewish and the video "Zionism and Christianity: Unholy Alliance")

In 1913, the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith was created, ostensibly to combat anti-Semitism. Since then, ADL and generations of liberal Jewish activists and their “civil liberties” organizations have tirelessly worked to strip America of its foundational Christian values. They have also created the hate crimes laws that now plague Christians and lovers of freedom in the western world. (See the video "Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians" and this adl.org article)

In 1917, Jewish international bankers and activists overthrew the Russian czar, spawning the global cancer of communism. Twentieth century liberalism is the off-scouring of Jewish-inspired socialism and communism. These facts are all documented by prestigious sources—many of them Jewish! (See Jewish Activists Created Communism and Why Most Jews Support the Hate Bill)

Congress today is dominated by the nation’s most powerful lobby, The American Israel Political Affairs Committee. AIPAC pressures members of Congress to unconditionally support Israel and its strife-engendering policies. Penalty for not cooperating: defeat of politicians by AIPAC in the next election! (See Israel Lobby article by Walt and Mearsheimer and They Dared to Speak Out: People and Institutions Confront Israel’s Lobby by Paul Findley)

High-level Jewish “neoconservatives” have surrounded recent presidents, especially Clinton and George W. Bush. They have successfully pressured America into Mideast wars that only exhaust our resources and make the Mideast safer for Israel. (For complete documentation read Michael Collin’s Pipers’ The High Priests of War and The New Jerusalem: Zionist Power in America, available from American Free Press | America's Last Real Newspaper. Also see NeoConned Again: Hypocrisy, Lawlessness and the Rape of Iraq, 2005 HIS Press)

The power I describe is real, substantive, long-term, and entrenched. It has one aim: to ultimately unite humanity under a Zionist-dominated one-world system centering in Jerusalem. According to Judaism's most sacred rabbinic scriptures, the Talmud and the Zohar, this global government will outlaw belief in Christ and even annihilate all Christians. On this foundation, Israel’s prophesied one-world ruler, Anti-Christ, will rule. (See Coming Jewish 'Utopia' Ruled by Noahide Laws)

Yes, Arab terrorism has demonstrated power to annoy, disrupt, and even create horrific carnage. It should be resisted and punished. But today, relatively speaking, its power over the west is small compared to the established power of organized world Jewry – power to move all levels of the financial, political, military, media, and educational establishment toward global governance.

Opposing the Wrong Enemy

Thousands of years ago, when Ishmael, the half-breed father of the Arabs, was born to Abraham, God's angel prophesied of him and his posterity: “He will be a wild donkey of a man. His hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him; and he will live to the east of all his brothers.” (Gen.16:12) Time has proven the accuracy of that prediction. The Muslim faith, birthed in sword and conquest, has resulted in a far-flung eastern empire, largely alienated from the rest of humanity. Always weakened by vendettas and dissensions, Arabs have shown themselves as disorganized as Jews are organized. And now, with Jews controlling most of the major newspapers we read in the morning and the evening news we watch at night, it is incredibly easy for Zionist media moguls to create in Islam the caricature of an enemy surpassing all others. How easily are Christians deceived!

It's happened before. In the Middle Ages, rumors came to Europe from Palestine that Muslims were performing indignities against Christians and forbidding them to visit Christian holy places. A great cry erupted in Christian Europe to rally for battle against Islam. “It is the will of God!” resounded throughout Western Europe as every able-bodied man left family, farm, and business to embark on a “holy crusade" to make the Mideast safe for Christianity. Like lemmings, millions went, including children. The Crusades lasted nearly 200 years and about one and a half million people died. Eventually, Palestine reverted to Moslem control.

Déjà vu? Today, a similar alarm is going up that “Islamo-Fascism” is the great Satan that civilization should unite against. The Jewish media fans this flame to white-hot intensity, encouraging evangelicals and Christian-based nations that more and yet more must be done in the Mideast to pursue and subdue this Moslem bogey, even into Iran. Yet in the end, the result will be the same as followed our attempt to eradicate Saddam’s “weapons of mass destruction.” Disillusionment. Death. Defeat. Thousands more body bags shipped home.

The crusaders got their priorities all mixed up, as Christians today have. It's because we follow Jewish media and fanatics like John Hagee.

Can we learn from history and not repeat its mistakes? It’s going to be very difficult because our greatest threat to national security does not exist in the distant alleys of Baghdad and barren sands of Iraq. Rather it is rolled up in black and white on our doormat every morning and stares us in the face before we go to bed.
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Is Israel on the road to "self-destruction"? | Opinion Maker

One very well informed and courageous Israeli who thinks the answer is “Yes” is Merav Michaeli, a radio and television presenter who also writes for Ha’aretz. She is completely without fear when it comes to telling it like it is. On 2 January this year, for example, she wrote: “The Israeli government doesn't want peace. There's nothing new in that. It has been the proven way since the establishment of the state.”
The headline over her latest article is Israel’s never-ending Holocaust. One of her main points is that Israel has never confronted the trauma of the Nazi holocaust and has “turned it into a placard in the service of the national trauma, to reinforce the constant existential fear and the aggressiveness that comes with it.”
Because what she wrote is so important, and in my view ought to be read by all peoples of all faiths everywhere who want to understand why the Zionist state is what it is, I am going to quote her at some length.
She wrote:
The Holocaust is the primary way Israel defines itself. And that definition is narrow and ailing in the extreme, because the Holocaust is remembered only in a very specific way, as are its lessons. It has long been used to justify the existence and the necessity of the state, and has been mentioned in the same breath as proof that the state is under a never-ending existential threat.
The Holocaust is the sole prism through which our leadership, followed by society at large, examines every situation. This prism distorts reality and leads inexorably to a forgone conclusion… that all our lives are simply one long Shoah (experience of persecution and extermination – my amplification not Merav’s).
The ‘Hitlers’ are always there: Just a week ago, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said for the nth time that there is no shortage of those who want to exterminate us completely. In other words, there is no lack of reasons to continue to reinforce the fear of the Holocaust – which, according to his father, historian Benzion Netanyahu, has never ended.
So it is that we don't have any rivals, adversaries or even enemies. Only Hitlers. This is how the Holocaust is taught in school, this how it is that Israeli students are taken to visit death camps – and how it came to be that, as Ha’aretz reported on Friday, just 2 percent of Israeli youth feel committed to democratic principles after studying the Holocaust… That's the way it is with traumas. Because of our human limitations, a trauma that is not dealt with makes us constantly see yet another trauma approaching – even when whatever is coming has no connection to the previous trauma and may even be a good thing. Trauma leads to belligerence and a strong tendency to wreak havoc on one's surroundings, but first and foremost on oneself.
What we consider rational is actually a frightened, defensive, aggressive pattern. Our current leaders have made Israeli Judaism just a post-traumatic syndrome, while they lead us to self-destruction.
I imagine that most if not all Arabs and other Muslims everywhere would welcome the prospect of Israel self-destructing, but in my Gentile view it is not actually a prospect to be welcomed. Why not?
If there comes a time when it seemed to them that the Zionist state’s self-destruction was imminent, Israel’s leaders would respond in the same way as they would if their state was in danger of being defeated on the battlefield. As readers of my book Zionism: The Real Enemy of the Jews know, that response was put into words by Golda Meir in the course of one of my BBC Panorama interviews with her when she was prime minister. In a doomsday situation, she said, Israel “would be prepared to take the region down with it.”
The question arising is something like this. Is there any power on Planet Earth that could assist Israeli Jews to save themselves from themselves – perhaps I should say save themselves from their deluded leaders?
The more I think about this question, the more I am convinced that there is only one power that could do it – the Jews of the world. But that must be the subject of another post and I will welcome thoughts from others before I write it.
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The Muslims are not happy ::::

They’re not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.

So, where are they happy?
They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.
They're happy in Canada .



They're happy in almost every country that is not Muslim!


And whom do they blame?



Not Islam . . .
Not their leadership . . .
Not themselves . . .

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy.

Try to find logic in that!
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The Muslims are not happy ::::

They’re not happy in Gaza.
They're not happy in Egypt.
They're not happy in Libya.
They're not happy in Morocco.
They're not happy in Iran.
They're not happy in Iraq.
They're not happy in Yemen.
They're not happy in Afghanistan.
They're not happy in Pakistan.
They're not happy in Syria.
They're not happy in Lebanon.

So, where are they happy?
They're happy in Australia.
They're happy in England.
They're happy in France.
They're happy in Italy.
They're happy in Germany.
They're happy in Sweden.
They're happy in the USA.
They're happy in Norway.
They're happy in Canada .



They're happy in almost every country that is not Muslim!


And whom do they blame?



Not Islam . . .
Not their leadership . . .
Not themselves . . .

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from, where they were unhappy.

Try to find logic in that!
I applaud your attempt at a forceful logical type argument .
I really kinda like it .
Your original work Rex ?

However i think we might need to challenge some of your axioms .

I will do that upon my return and subject this argument to the searing bright light of pure Reality Analysis .
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