Ron Paul 2012 - OzChess

**- V -** · 08-17-2011, 04:01 AM

More of the same ?
Or try a Libertarian ?!

END THE WARS , END THE DRUG WAR , END THE FED .
- RON PAUL 2012

Prison Planet.com » Ron Paul: ‘They Call Me Extreme – They’re The Extremists!’

Congressman tells CNN how the establishment is running scared

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, August 16, 2011

During an interview with CNN last night, presidential frontrunner Ron Paul explained how the establishment is finding it more and more difficult to portray his ideas as “extreme,” pointing out how his viewpoints are becoming part of mainstream thinking as the real “extremists” in charge continue to follow the same course even as America’s economy crumbles.

Asked why the media obsessed about Michele Bachmann while ignoring Ron Paul completely despite the fact that Paul almost beat her in the Ames straw poll, the Congressman said that the establishment was running scared.

“They’re afraid of me, they don’t want my views out there, they’re too dangerous, we want freedom and we’re challenging the status quo, we want to end the war, we want a gold standard, and their view is that people just can’t handle all this freedom, they want dependency, they want socialism and welfarism, so I think they don’t like to hear our views, but I think we’ll make the best of it and we’ll do very well,” he said.

Paul responded to host Piers Morgan’s assertion that Democrats were hyping Paul’s campaign as a means of dividing Republicans in order to pave the way for an Obama victory by pointing out that polls show he would have the best chance out of all the candidates of defeating Obama in a head to head race.

“I would slash into Obama’s civil libertarian viewpoints, he doesn’t really follow through on belief in personal liberties and he does not support ending the wars, he expanded the wars….so I think the establishment doesn’t want the status quo challenged and would be very opposed to me,” said Paul, adding that the leadership of both parties are in full support of continuing the wars and the Federal Reserve.

A May CNN poll found that Paul trailed Obama by seven points in a hypothetical run-off, with other so-called Republican “frontrunners” further behind. Given the fact that the media would be forced to give Paul some kind of a platform if he won the nomination instead of their current tactic of completely ignoring him, a seven point gap is nothing given that Obama’s approval ratings are slipping every week.

Morgan then attempted to imply that Paul was an extremist because he refused to subvert his principles on issues such as foreign aid, drug legalization, tax increases and abortion in order to make himself “more electable”.

“Why should someone soften their viewpoint on defending the rule of law and defending the constitution, it would be foolish,” responded Paul.

“The extremists are in charge, they’ve been in charge for the last 40 years since they’ve been allowed to print money at will….this year our entitlements in debt has obligated our people to $5 trillion dollars, and they think I’m extreme? I mean this is weird,” exclaimed the Congressman, explaining that his views were now becoming mainstream as America’s economy crumbles even as those in charge continue to repeat the same steps that caused the collapse in the first place.

Watch this hilarious Daily Show piece below in which host Jon Stewart rips into the establishment media for ignoring Ron Paul.

**- V -** · 08-17-2011, 06:22 PM

» Ron Paul Exploding Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

The establishment media’s attempt to ignore Ron Paul’s 2012 campaign for president has become so blatant following his close-second finish in the Iowa straw poll, that even mainstream reporters cannot ignore the biased attempt to drown out his message. Despite their best efforts, Ron Paul continues to explode in popularity, surfacing repeatedly at the top of major polls as his message transcends the political gatekeepers.

Dr. Paul is reaching a tipping point which no one can ignore– emerging as the frontrunner in the GOP 2012 primary, despite attempts to feed the populace more empty suit, pro-war, big government candidates.

**Just2Good** · 08-17-2011, 06:47 PM

I am more interested in knowing what options Germany and France have given the Euro-debt situation.

Also, I listened to 80% of this clip. The guy is a nutter, although that doesn't mean Ron Paul is a bad candidate. I think RP has some good ideas actually, but Alex Jones is a clown.

**- V -** · 08-17-2011, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

I am more interested in knowing what options Germany and France have given the Euro-debt situation.

Why ?

**Just2Good** · 08-17-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by - V -

Why ?

Because its better than listening to the AJ windbag campaign for RP.

**- V -** · 08-17-2011, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Because its better than listening to the AJ windbag campaing for RP.

Shame on you!! Alex has the balls to stand up for mankind and fight for your rights... Maybe you should be crazy like him instead of being a servile sheep
traceyeve

Your relocation train is ready for boarding ! (uninformed sheep get carted )

**- V -** · 08-17-2011, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

The guy is a nutter, although that doesn't mean Ron Paul is a bad candidate. I think RP has some good ideas actually, but Alex Jones is a clown.

RP is a regular guest on the AJ Show

**- V -** · 08-19-2011, 12:50 AM

**antichrist** · 08-22-2011, 08:57 PM

Didn't KB demolish you in drug war debate in shout box last week over a few nights?

**- V -** · 08-22-2011, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by antichrist

Didn't KB demolish you in drug war debate in shout box last week over a few nights?

who , where , what ??

**antichrist** · 08-23-2011, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by - V -

who , where , what ??

You know full well over two nights last week in the shoutbox

**antichrist** · 08-23-2011, 12:40 AM

KB:
Ron Paul has a cult following and raises lots of money but is too ideological to ever develop a really broad appeal. He does resonate with the whole "tea party" thing but there's any number of right-Republicans who are a bit closer to being "normal" political operators.

He is also too old. Reagan was the oldest first-term president elected at age 69. In 2012 Paul will be 77, as old as Reagan was when his second term expired.
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see KB has him dead already

**- V -** · 08-23-2011, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by antichrist

You know full well over two nights last week in the shoutbox

Ask KB , no such debate took place .
Then apologise to me for your mistake .

**- V -** · 08-23-2011, 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by antichrist

KB:
Ron Paul has a cult following and raises lots of money but is too ideological to ever develop a really broad appeal. He does resonate with the whole "tea party" thing but there's any number of right-Republicans who are a bit closer to being "normal" political operators.

He is also too old. Reagan was the oldest first-term president elected at age 69. In 2012 Paul will be 77, as old as Reagan was when his second term expired.
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see KB has him dead already

So which other candidate wants to end the wars , the drug war and the fed ??

**- V -** · 09-03-2011, 07:52 PM

Laura Trice: The Top 10 Reasons Why Dr. Ron Paul Is the Only Rational Choice

Are Americans finally ready to elect an honest, decent man who will not listen to non-sense from regular Americans, politicians or corporations? A president who will be accountable and hold us all accountable? I hope so.

"Special interests have replaced the concern that the Founders had for general welfare. Vote trading is seen as good politics. The errand-boy mentality is ordinary, the defender of liberty is seen as bizarre. It's difficult for one who loves true liberty and utterly detests the power of the state to come to Washington for a period of time and not leave a true cynic." -- Dr. Paul

"He does not take money from corporate PACs. Lobbyists cannot sway him; to try is a waste of time. He never bargains with his own deeply held beliefs, nor does he cut backroom deals. Because his political views and his personal convictions are in complete harmony, he seldom faces a "tough" vote. And when the politicking for the week is over, he returns to his district to take up his lifelong occupation, which has nothing to do with politics." -- S. C. Gwynne

08-17-2011, 04:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	Ron Paul 2012 More of the same ? Or try a Libertarian ?! END THE WARS , END THE DRUG WAR , END THE FED . - RON PAUL 2012 Prison Planet.com » Ron Paul: ‘They Call Me Extreme – They’re The Extremists!’ Congressman tells CNN how the establishment is running scared Paul Joseph Watson Infowars.com Tuesday, August 16, 2011 During an interview with CNN last night, presidential frontrunner Ron Paul explained how the establishment is finding it more and more difficult to portray his ideas as “extreme,” pointing out how his viewpoints are becoming part of mainstream thinking as the real “extremists” in charge continue to follow the same course even as America’s economy crumbles. Asked why the media obsessed about Michele Bachmann while ignoring Ron Paul completely despite the fact that Paul almost beat her in the Ames straw poll, the Congressman said that the establishment was running scared. “They’re afraid of me, they don’t want my views out there, they’re too dangerous, we want freedom and we’re challenging the status quo, we want to end the war, we want a gold standard, and their view is that people just can’t handle all this freedom, they want dependency, they want socialism and welfarism, so I think they don’t like to hear our views, but I think we’ll make the best of it and we’ll do very well,” he said. Paul responded to host Piers Morgan’s assertion that Democrats were hyping Paul’s campaign as a means of dividing Republicans in order to pave the way for an Obama victory by pointing out that polls show he would have the best chance out of all the candidates of defeating Obama in a head to head race. “I would slash into Obama’s civil libertarian viewpoints, he doesn’t really follow through on belief in personal liberties and he does not support ending the wars, he expanded the wars….so I think the establishment doesn’t want the status quo challenged and would be very opposed to me,” said Paul, adding that the leadership of both parties are in full support of continuing the wars and the Federal Reserve. A May CNN poll found that Paul trailed Obama by seven points in a hypothetical run-off, with other so-called Republican “frontrunners” further behind. Given the fact that the media would be forced to give Paul some kind of a platform if he won the nomination instead of their current tactic of completely ignoring him, a seven point gap is nothing given that Obama’s approval ratings are slipping every week. Morgan then attempted to imply that Paul was an extremist because he refused to subvert his principles on issues such as foreign aid, drug legalization, tax increases and abortion in order to make himself “more electable”. “Why should someone soften their viewpoint on defending the rule of law and defending the constitution, it would be foolish,” responded Paul. “The extremists are in charge, they’ve been in charge for the last 40 years since they’ve been allowed to print money at will….this year our entitlements in debt has obligated our people to $5 trillion dollars, and they think I’m extreme? I mean this is weird,” exclaimed the Congressman, explaining that his views were now becoming mainstream as America’s economy crumbles even as those in charge continue to repeat the same steps that caused the collapse in the first place. Watch this hilarious Daily Show piece below in which host Jon Stewart rips into the establishment media for ignoring Ron Paul. __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "* Last edited by - V - : 01-25-2012 at 01:07 AM

08-17-2011, 06:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	» Ron Paul Exploding Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! The establishment media’s attempt to ignore Ron Paul’s 2012 campaign for president has become so blatant following his close-second finish in the Iowa straw poll, that even mainstream reporters cannot ignore the biased attempt to drown out his message. Despite their best efforts, Ron Paul continues to explode in popularity, surfacing repeatedly at the top of major polls as his message transcends the political gatekeepers. Dr. Paul is reaching a tipping point which no one can ignore– emerging as the frontrunner in the GOP 2012 primary, despite attempts to feed the populace more empty suit, pro-war, big government candidates. __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "* Last edited by - V - : 01-25-2012 at 01:05 AM

08-17-2011, 06:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	I am more interested in knowing what options Germany and France have given the Euro-debt situation. Also, I listened to 80% of this clip. The guy is a nutter, although that doesn't mean Ron Paul is a bad candidate. I think RP has some good ideas actually, but Alex Jones is a clown. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

08-17-2011, 06:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	Originally Posted by Just2Good I am more interested in knowing what options Germany and France have given the Euro-debt situation. Why ? __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "*

08-17-2011, 07:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by - V - Why ? Because its better than listening to the AJ windbag campaign for RP. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

08-17-2011, 07:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	We Should All Be Crazy Like Alex Jones ! Originally Posted by Just2Good Because its better than listening to the AJ windbag campaing for RP. Shame on you!! Alex has the balls to stand up for mankind and fight for your rights... Maybe you should be crazy like him instead of being a servile sheep traceyeve Your relocation train is ready for boarding ! (uninformed sheep get carted ) __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "* Last edited by - V - : 08-17-2011 at 07:23 PM

08-17-2011, 10:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	Originally Posted by Just2Good The guy is a nutter, although that doesn't mean Ron Paul is a bad candidate. I think RP has some good ideas actually, but Alex Jones is a clown. RP is a regular guest on the AJ Show __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "*

08-19-2011, 12:50 AM	#8 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	__________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "*

08-22-2011, 08:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Didn't KB demolish you in drug war debate in shout box last week over a few nights?

08-22-2011, 09:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	Originally Posted by antichrist Didn't KB demolish you in drug war debate in shout box last week over a few nights? who , where , what ?? __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "*

08-23-2011, 12:09 AM	#11 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by - V - who , where , what ?? You know full well over two nights last week in the shoutbox

08-23-2011, 12:40 AM	#12 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	KB from Bright side KB: Ron Paul has a cult following and raises lots of money but is too ideological to ever develop a really broad appeal. He does resonate with the whole "tea party" thing but there's any number of right-Republicans who are a bit closer to being "normal" political operators. He is also too old. Reagan was the oldest first-term president elected at age 69. In 2012 Paul will be 77, as old as Reagan was when his second term expired. --------------------------------------------- see KB has him dead already

08-23-2011, 01:27 AM	#13 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	Originally Posted by antichrist You know full well over two nights last week in the shoutbox Ask KB , no such debate took place . Then apologise to me for your mistake . __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "*

08-23-2011, 01:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	Originally Posted by antichrist KB: Ron Paul has a cult following and raises lots of money but is too ideological to ever develop a really broad appeal. He does resonate with the whole "tea party" thing but there's any number of right-Republicans who are a bit closer to being "normal" political operators. He is also too old. Reagan was the oldest first-term president elected at age 69. In 2012 Paul will be 77, as old as Reagan was when his second term expired. --------------------------------------------- see KB has him dead already So which other candidate wants to end the wars , the drug war and the fed ?? __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "*

09-03-2011, 07:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
- V - De-Programmer Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 492	Huff Post ! Laura Trice: The Top 10 Reasons Why Dr. Ron Paul Is the Only Rational Choice Are Americans finally ready to elect an honest, decent man who will not listen to non-sense from regular Americans, politicians or corporations? A president who will be accountable and hold us all accountable? I hope so. "Special interests have replaced the concern that the Founders had for general welfare. Vote trading is seen as good politics. The errand-boy mentality is ordinary, the defender of liberty is seen as bizarre. It's difficult for one who loves true liberty and utterly detests the power of the state to come to Washington for a period of time and not leave a true cynic." -- Dr. Paul "He does not take money from corporate PACs. Lobbyists cannot sway him; to try is a waste of time. He never bargains with his own deeply held beliefs, nor does he cut backroom deals. Because his political views and his personal convictions are in complete harmony, he seldom faces a "tough" vote. And when the politicking for the week is over, he returns to his district to take up his lifelong occupation, which has nothing to do with politics." -- S. C. Gwynne __________________ "Few have the stomach to pursue truth , yet most know in their gut something is wrong" V *"But everyone knows the media doesn't inform. Duhhhhhh !! "*

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