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Old 08-10-2010, 12:26 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm happy for the payout (though I think it is way too much), if she does what she said she'll do and donate the lot to charities helping women who have been sexually abused etc.

And while it wont stop me totally shopping from David Jones, it'll certainly make me think twice about it. This isnt just about the actions of one random person, but the CEO and the company's failure to act on the claims when they were made the first time.
I fully support her, and the amount. It is a large amount, but I read that the amount is 5% of the CEO's salary (2 M) and 5% yearly profits of DJs (35 M). In proportion with these people's profits, this is enough to hurt them, and it should be enough to warn other big corps off of giving the softly, softly approach to sexual harrasement.

Will I stop shopping at DJs? No. What happened was wrong, and should be punished, but by not shopping at DJs, I would be punishing shareholders and workers (who may be layed off) - and they have done nothing wrong.

Also, she was pregnant apparently!
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Old 08-10-2010, 05:26 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I fully support her, and the amount. It is a large amount, but I read that the amount is 5% of the CEO's salary (2 M) and 5% yearly profits of DJs (35 M). In proportion with these people's profits, this is enough to hurt them, and it should be enough to warn other big corps off of giving the softly, softly approach to sexual harrasement.

Will I stop shopping at DJs? No. What happened was wrong, and should be punished, but by not shopping at DJs, I would be punishing shareholders and workers (who may be layed off) - and they have done nothing wrong.

Also, she was pregnant apparently!
I have no problem with her being awarded $37m provided it's donated to charity supporting vulnerable women. I understand that the award is all meant to be commensurate with the CEOs salary.

In my job I have read victims compensation files recounting truly horrific stories. I'm talking people with intellectual disabilities being sexually assaulted and tortured by their families over a period of years. of course it depends on the circumstances of each individual case but the most I've ever seen someone awarded as a victim of violent crime was about $200K.
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Old 08-11-2010, 02:30 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I have no problem with her being awarded $37m provided it's donated to charity supporting vulnerable women. I understand that the award is all meant to be commensurate with the CEOs salary.

In my job I have read victims compensation files recounting truly horrific stories. I'm talking people with intellectual disabilities being sexually assaulted and tortured by their families over a period of years. of course it depends on the circumstances of each individual case but the most I've ever seen someone awarded as a victim of violent crime was about $200K.
I don't think it is ever fair to compare one's story to another's. This is when vicitms fall into the trap of thinking their pain isn't worthy enough. It perpetutates this thinking of, "Yes I was sexually abused/harrassed/assaulted, but so many other girls/women have gone through much worse so I should just get over it. My situation isn't "bad" enough." which is not true at all.

I have a friend who was abused only once by a relative and it affected her greatly (as it would). However, she struggled with allowing herself to feel angry and upset about what happened because she kept thinking, "It's not as bad as someone else's experience. I should stop complaining." which was heartbreaking to see and unhelpful to her healing.
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Old 08-13-2010, 01:33 AM   #19 (permalink)
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I don't think it is ever fair to compare one's story to another's. This is when vicitms fall into the trap of thinking their pain isn't worthy enough. It perpetutates this thinking of, "Yes I was sexually abused/harrassed/assaulted, but so many other girls/women have gone through much worse so I should just get over it. My situation isn't "bad" enough." which is not true at all.

I have a friend who was abused only once by a relative and it affected her greatly (as it would). However, she struggled with allowing herself to feel angry and upset about what happened because she kept thinking, "It's not as bad as someone else's experience. I should stop complaining." which was heartbreaking to see and unhelpful to her healing.
I know a guy who when young was abused by priests and received compo. But has effected his whole psyche and never lets anyone forgets what happened to him. He wears it on his sleeve and brings it up as much as Axiom brings up his obscessions. He accepted a minor payment with clauses to shut up, he was unpresented and now considers it further abuse that he was paid to shut up for peanuts. They did not provide legal advice for him and him being an orphan in their care before the settlement and being unemployable could not afford it.
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I know a guy who when young was abused by priests and received compo. But has effected his whole psyche and never lets anyone forgets what happened to him. He wears it on his sleeve and brings it up as much as Axiom brings up his obscessions. He accepted a minor payment with clauses to shut up, he was unpresented and now considers it further abuse that he was paid to shut up for peanuts. They did not provide legal advice for him and him being an orphan in their care before the settlement and being unemployable could not afford it.
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I know a guy who when young was abused by priests and received compo. But has effected his whole psyche and never lets anyone forgets what happened to him. He wears it on his sleeve and brings it up as much as Axiom brings up his obscessions. He accepted a minor payment with clauses to shut up, he was unpresented and now considers it further abuse that he was paid to shut up for peanuts. They did not provide legal advice for him and him being an orphan in their care before the settlement and being unemployable could not afford it.
I sincerely hope you're not implying i was interfered with by the clergy ?


If so , it would be outright slander .





.......look , she was new to the nunnery , she had not at the time completed her final papers .
And i don't care what anyone says, OK !??
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:43 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I have no problem with her being awarded $37m provided it's donated to charity supporting vulnerable women. I understand that the award is all meant to be commensurate with the CEOs salary.

In my job I have read victims compensation files recounting truly horrific stories. I'm talking people with intellectual disabilities being sexually assaulted and tortured by their families over a period of years. of course it depends on the circumstances of each individual case but the most I've ever seen someone awarded as a victim of violent crime was about $200K.
I agree with her taking this public and making a stand against sexual harrassment in the workplace. Though I don't feel in a position to have an opinion on the money side of things, I think it was effective in keeping the story in the media, which I hope is a positive thing to get the message out there that sexual harrassment is unacceptable.

What really gets my goat, is people (mostly on radio) saying that she should've sucked it up, she was probably flirting with him, what's a little bit of touching etc etc. Even Mr Polly made some offhanded comment after a shot of her on the news wearing a showy evening gown - he got shot down in flames.

Women should be able to go to work, do their job, be judged only on their skills and professionalism, and not fear being sexually harrassed in the workplace.
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Old 08-13-2010, 03:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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what concerns me about this is that big business may think twice when appointing women to jobs as don't want to take risks. Girls have told me no when they meant yes so it is dangerous territory.
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