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Old 05-09-2008, 12:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There is some discussion in Canberra which has recently been reported on Shaun Press' Chessexpress Blog (link provided below) regarding Australian interstate teams playing against one another. Obviously the idea has wonderful appeal and hopefully it could eventually get off the ground.

The current proposed format, however, I think is far too restrictive. It proposes that all state teams would have one male, one female, and one junior player. Therefore, on a team of 6 or 7 players those kind of quota requirements would account for about half the team! There are also those silly and frustrating red tape type restrictions about so and so board #1's rating must not exceed X, and the teams rating must not exceed Y.

First off, the rating system in Australia is pretty lousy let alone in any way shape or form reliable - especially when it comes to juniors. Even Grandmaster Ian Rogers wrote a letter about that fact. So my first advice to Shaun Press who would probably be the key organizor for this event is to shelve those red tape requirements. The only requirement should be that a state field of team of 6 or 7 players willing to play for their state. That's it, no magic to it.

The question is how do we best facilitate the matches?

There is talk of playing over the internet or using webcams. Face to face seems to be the last preferred option due to financial considerations in sending a team to play.

I say bully to that. Apart from the NSWCA which is struggling financially under Bill Gletsos' presidency, all other state chess associations are doing well and likely have big enough bank rolls to be able to sponsor and send a team. So maybe the event could be held in Sydney to spare the NSWCA from this expense?

Also, I can't see how the games could be rated if they aren't played over the board face to face.

If we work on the basis of holding face to face match ups, then the only likely problem (apart from financing) would probably be in actually fielding a state's best team. Different individuals have different agenda's, and being able to carve out the same period of time to travel interstate to play other teams seems an almost insurmountable challenge, but if anyone could get the concept off the ground its Mr Press.

Overall I think this is a cool idea worthy of further exploration.

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Old 05-29-2008, 11:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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anyway i fully agree with that AO !!!

yeah have it in nsw and then with good planning it could give the nswca a chance to recoup some of the lost funds/membership and players money .
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Interstate Internet matches are a logical extension for Australian chess.

In my opinion, the key issue for rating integrity is computer cheating. Because of this issue, I believe individually played games should never be rated. However, in the right context games ought to be rated.

The right context is to have team matches in a supervised venues with a qualified arbiter being present. Rules of conduct should be observed and created for the new medium. Focus of rules should be directed towards ensuring that the arbiter is responsible for preventing the use of outside chess engines on the computer.

At MCC we now have a working network with five dedicated computers ready for any Interstate chess match. We openly invite any chess organiser to contact us if they wish to arrange such a match. Please pm me here on Ozchess if you are interested in such a match.


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Old 06-01-2008, 03:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Good post fg7.

And I am sure MCC would probably extend the invitation to Vic regions such as Bendigo, Geelong, and Ranges.

I hope a challenging Club takes up your offer.

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Still no official challenges, so it looks like all talk no action from our Interstate associates.

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I reckon this could work. You can play on ICC and have a webcam to reduce the risk of external "assistance". I think Chesscube does the same thing also. There was a major tournament where Australian players were playing South African players on Chesscube.

Start small (club level) then look to expand to State level.


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I reckon this could work. You can play on ICC and have a webcam to reduce the risk of external "assistance". I think Chesscube does the same thing also. There was a major tournament where Australian players were playing South African players on Chesscube.

Start small (club level) then look to expand to State level.


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