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Old 01-16-2009, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I would like to see sponsored club forums on Ozchess. I think clubs (and Axiom ) should have there very own forums on Ozchess. I believe the clubs should pay a small retainer fee of (say about $25 annually) to cover the basic operational costs of Ozchess.

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Old 01-16-2009, 02:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Can you be more specific about the difference b/n club sponsored forums that you propose and the club threads as they operate now in Ozchess?

I would suggest outside sponsors like local businesses etc sponsoring Clubs and at the same time advertising their goods, services or whatever to the community with a permanent logo or some other promotional means.

Part of the money out of this agreement could go to the Clubs themselves and part to Ozchess.

Having said that, however, I don't know how feasible my proposal is in accordance to rules and regulations of Ozchess.

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I would like to see sponsored club forums on Ozchess. I think clubs (and Axiom ) should have there very own forums on Ozchess. I believe the clubs should pay a small retainer fee of (say about $25 annually) to cover the basic operational costs of Ozchess.

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Can you be more specific about the difference b/n club sponsored forums that you propose and the club threads as they operate now in Ozchess?

I would suggest outside sponsors like local businesses etc sponsoring Clubs and at the same time advertising their goods, services or whatever to the community with a permanent logo or some other promotional means.

Part of the money out of this agreement could go to the Clubs themselves and part to Ozchess.

Having said that, however, I don't know how feasible my proposal is in accordance to rules and regulations of Ozchess.

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I am very supportive of both ideas, however, I do not know what CAGLES means.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Can you be more specific about the difference b/n club sponsored forums that you propose and the club threads as they operate now in Ozchess?
Sure, I can be more specific. Instead of having individual threads posted by chess club members, randomly promoting chess across Australia. I would like to see club sponsored sections of the forum dedicated to club news. The VB software is powerful enough to ensure a much more efficient use of resources.


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I would suggest outside sponsors like local businesses etc sponsoring Clubs and at the same time advertising their goods, services or whatever to the community with a permanent logo or some other promotional means.
I have no strong feelings on this idea. I think Ozchess ought to have commercial advertising, but I would like to see the money put back into chess after costs.
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7 View Post
Sure, I can be more specific. Instead of having individual threads posted by chess club members, randomly promoting chess across Australia. I would like to see club sponsored sections of the forum dedicated to club news. The VB software is powerful enough to ensure a much more efficient use of resources.



I have no strong feelings on this idea. I think Ozchess ought to have commercial advertising, but I would like to see the money put back into chess after costs.
I am sure that Box Hill/Canterbury would be part of the deal.
We already use Ozchess as the readily accessible notice-board for provisional pairings, and newsletters.
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I am very supportive of both ideas, however, I do not know what CAGLES means.
CAGLES = Acronym of Cheers And Good Luck as used by myself in my greetings after posts and codified by Eclectic. The ES in the end fascilitates the usage of word either as a noun or a verb!
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PS It has also being used as AU CAGLOIR, CAGLEREMOS and CAGLEREMO (French, Spanish and Italian version)

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Sure, I can be more specific. Instead of having individual threads posted by chess club members, randomly promoting chess across Australia. I would like to see club sponsored sections of the forum dedicated to club news. The VB software is powerful enough to ensure a much more efficient use of resources.

Sure, but what stops Clubs using the existing threads, as BH/CJ Chess Club does, in a more organised way the way things are now?


I have no strong feelings on this idea. I think Ozchess ought to have commercial advertising, but I would like to see the money put back into chess after costs.
What money? Say 10 clubs use your system with your proposed annual fee of $25 you have the grand sum of $250 per year which might or might not cover Ozchess's running costs. How much will be left to put back into chess?

Now, according to my way of thinking: Ten sponsors advertise their product, goods, services etc for say $1000 a year for the same number of clubs (10).
In the end of the year you have the sum of $10,000 of which you take out the running costs of Ozchess (for the particular project) plus a percentage for future developments of the site and you have enough money left for the Clubs to cover some of their expenses! ie cleaning equipment etc

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What money? Say 10 clubs use your system with your proposed annual fee of $25 you have the grand sum of $250 per year which might or might not cover Ozchess's running costs. How much will be left to put back into chess?

Now, according to my way of thinking: Ten sponsors advertise their product, goods, services etc for say $1000 a year for the same number of clubs (10).
In the end of the year you have the sum of $10,000 of which you take out the running costs of Ozchess (for the particular project) plus a percentage for future developments of the site and you have enough money left for the Clubs to cover some of their expenses! ie cleaning equipment etc

CAGLES
What does CAGLES mean?
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AO, see post #6 of this thread! CAGLES!!!
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Originally Posted by justaknight View Post
CAGLES = Acronym of Cheers And Good Luck as used by myself in my greetings after posts and codified by Eclectic. The ES in the end fascilitates the usage of word either as a noun or a verb!
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PS It has also being used as AU CAGLOIR, CAGLEREMOS and CAGLEREMO (French, Spanish and Italian version)
That is brilliant! I don't know how I missed it the first time round. Thanks JaK!
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[b]What money? Say 10 clubs use your system with your proposed annual fee of $25 you have the grand sum of $250 per year which might or might not cover Ozchess's running costs. How much will be left to put back into chess?
We are probably talking about different things. I merely stated that I believe clubs should have their own forums on Ozchess. For example here the tree goes Ozchess-Australia'sChess forum> Site Info & general Topics > Site Suggestions & Opinions > Club Sponsored Forums.

I would like to see Ozchess-Australia'sChess forum> Melbourne Chess Club or Ozchess-Australia's Chess Forum > Box Hill/Canterbury Chess Club.

The idea being that the clubs themselves could maintain and update the information displayed on their own forums in a systematic way, rather then relying on ad hoc thread making by individuals. The back end of VB is very powerful software and its potential for full resource usage has a much wider application then that available to a typical user.

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Now, according to my way of thinking: Ten sponsors advertise their product, goods, services etc for say $1000 a year for the same number of clubs (10).
In the end of the year you have the sum of $10,000 of which you take out the running costs of Ozchess (for the particular project) plus a percentage for future developments of the site and you have enough money left for the Clubs to cover some of their expenses! ie cleaning equipment etc
Like I said before I have no particularly strong feelings for or against this idea.I would just like to point out that really it should be up to the owner of Ozchess to decide what advertising and sponsorship he wants on the site. I'm sure if the clubs came to Alex with a reasonable deal he would be happy to oblige everybody. He is a very reasonable guy

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Originally Posted by Firegoat7 View Post
We are probably talking about different things. I merely stated that I believe clubs should have their own forums on Ozchess. For example here the tree goes Ozchess -Australia's Chess Forum> Site Info & General Topics > Site Suggestions & Opinions > Club Sponsored Forums.

I would like to see Ozchess - Australia's Chess Forum> Melbourne Chess Club or Ozchess - Australia's Chess Forum > Box Hill/Canterbury Chess Club.
Its an idea I am open to and willing to pursue. Possibly Matt's Wollongong club would want to join as well.

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Like I said before I have no particularly strong feelings for or against this idea. I would just like to point out that really it should be up to the owner of Ozchess to decide what advertising and sponsorship he wants on the site. I'm sure if the clubs came to Alex with a reasonable deal he would be happy to oblige everybody. He is a very reasonable guy.
I am open to this idea as well, however, it should be said that I have no inclination to go out there to rustle up sponsors. Indeed, few chess clubs in Australia have sponsorship. Most are dependent upon membership dues as their sole source of income.

Obviously OzChess isn't making any money, so if a sponsor would pop out of the woodwork and say 'we'd like to advertise on OzChess and would pay $1000 for a forum' - then bloody oath, they'd have their forum and ads plastered all over the place.
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When I was Treasurer of the Elwood Chess Club I was asked by Melbourne Chess Club officials to sponsor the 2004 Australian Masters Chess to be held at the Melbourne Chess Club. At considerable cost to me I did this.

A few weeks later I recieved a letter written by a certain David Beaumont (sic) stating that I was banned from the Melbourne Chess Club. No reason was given.

I believe I am STILL banned despite living 100 km away! I can only assume the 'anti- psychotics' were in short supply at the MCC that day.

Is this is how the Melbourne Chess Club treats sponsors?
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When I was Treasurer of the Elwood Chess Club I was asked by Melbourne Chess Club officials to sponsor the 2004 Australian Masters Chess to be held at the Melbourne Chess Club. At considerable cost to me I did this.

A few weeks later I recieved a letter written by a certain David Beaumont (sic) stating that I was banned from the Melbourne Chess Club. No reason was given.

I believe I am STILL banned despite living 100 km away! I can only assume the 'anti- psychotics' were in short supply at the MCC that day.

Is this is how the Melbourne Chess Club treats sponsors?
So you were a member of the Elwood club, and then got banned from another chess club that you weren't even the member of? It sounds far fetched.
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When I was Treasurer of the Elwood Chess Club I was asked by Melbourne Chess Club officials to sponsor the 2004 Australian Masters Chess to be held at the Melbourne Chess Club. At considerable cost to me I did this.

A few weeks later I recieved a letter written by a certain David Beaumont (sic) stating that I was banned from the Melbourne Chess Club. No reason was given.

I believe I am STILL banned despite living 100 km away! I can only assume the 'anti- psychotics' were in short supply at the MCC that day.

Is this is how the Melbourne Chess Club treats sponsors?
I am interested to know how Elwood CC and Melbourne CC would recount this event.
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