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Old 12-27-2008, 04:05 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tribute to Fischer

This is an excerp of Kasparov's tribute to Bobby Fischer in TIME magazine.

"It was Bobby Fischer's attitude on and off the chess board that infused his play with unrivaled power. Before Fischer, no one was ready to fight to the death in every game. No one was willing to work around the clock to push chess to a new level. But Fischer was, and he became the detonator of an avalanche of new chess ideas, a revolutionary whose revolution is still in progress. By World War II, the once strong U.S. chess tradition had largely failed. So for an American player to reach world-championship level in the 1950s required an obsessive degree of personal dedication. Fischer's triumph over the Soviet chess machine, culminating in his 1972 victory over Boris Spassky in Reykjavik, Iceland, demanded even more. He declined to defend his title in 1975, and by forfeit, it passed back into the embrace of the Soviets. According to all accounts, Fischer had descended into isolation and anger. Much has been written about his subsequent disappearance and apparent mental instability. Some are quick to put the blame on chess itself, which would be a foolish blunder. Pushing too hard in any endeavor brings great risks."
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Old 12-27-2008, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If we were forced to summarise Fischer's achievement and personality in an economical 6 lines then it could hardly be done any better than this.
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Fischer's Impressive Achievment

Originally Posted by phild707 View Post
If we were forced to summarise Fischer's achievement and personality in an economical 6 lines then it could hardly be done any better than this.
Take a look at this link:

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Its in French but it shows the youngest Grandmasters of all time.

Notice that Fischer did it 30 years ahead of Polgar (who was a top 5-10 player for much of the 90's), and about 40 to 45 years ahead of everyone else on that list.

The thing to be mindful of, however, is that today its not particularly hard to find events where you can score a GM norm. In the 50's when Fischer did it, those events were few and far between. And when they did come, they tended to be dominated by Soviet Grandmasters (today's equivilent of Super GM's).

That makes Fischer's achievment all the more impressive.
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:07 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
Take a look at this link:

Link <<< Click Here

Its in French but it shows the youngest Grandmasters of all time.

Notice that Fischer did it 30 years ahead of Polgar (who was a top 5-10 player for much of the 90's), and about 40 to 45 years ahead of everyone else on that list.

The thing to be mindful of, however, is that today its not particularly hard to find events where you can score a GM norm. In the 50's when Fischer did it, those events were few and far between. And when they did come, they tended to be dominated by Soviet Grandmasters (today's equivilent of Super GM's).

That makes Fischer's achievment all the more impressive.
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An interesting take on Grandmasters by Paul Bonham (no relation to the troll who haunts Australia's Premier Chess Forum).

Originally Posted by Paul Bonham
Chess players ARE unstable.

One thing should be mentioned about today's current greats if they are to be compared to the greats of yore, and that is that they have access to vast computing and database resources that were lacking for previous generations. In my opinion, all of today's top-tier GMs should be playing flawless chess, and this is because I believe classical chess for humans is "solved". What I mean by that is that for a full-time chess player who is at the very top tier of talent, and who accesses and uses all the available computer resources s/he can, there is no position they should ever encounter over the board that is of such foreign complexity that s/he cannot find either the very best move or a move that is so close to being the best move that making it will not change the outcome of the game. Thus I believe that every game between today's super GM's *SHOULD* end drawn.

However, as we know, this is not the case, and I believe there are 3 possible reasons for this:

(1) today's greats are not so great after all and despite having the advantage of vast computer resources, still make judgemental mistakes not caused by pressure or stress, or

(2) today's greats collectively suffer from psychological problems that cause them to break at some level of stress that can occur under GM tournament or match conditions, or

(3) today's greats either consciously or subconsciously decide at some point during their games to recognize chess as a solution looking for a problem (rather than vice-versa) and play what I've defined in previous threads on this board as "the most interesting move" rather than the best move. They may do this altruistically (to send the game into the most interesting direction), or they may do it believing their opponent might lose due to reason (1) or reason (2), but in any event they diverge from what they know is the best move.

If reason (1) is primarily to blame for most of today's super GM wins / losses, then none of today's greats compare favorably to their predecessors. If it's mostly reason (2), then classical chess is indeed solved as I've defined above and any top-level match or tournament is only a psychological test (sorry, not a sport). However, if it's mainly (as I hope and believe) reason (3), then chess is on the cusp of a revolution which will eventually result in rule changes, perhaps beginning with chess960 (or Fisher Random chess) as the new basis for determining the World Champion.

And btw, any discussion of how great Fisher was or was not should include a mention of Fisher Random chess, his invention. I'm not sure when he invented it, but it seems that he arguably (perhaps refutable by someone who knows more chess history than I) foresaw the solving of classical chess before anyone else?
I don't know if I agree with it all, but I did find his thoughts interesting.

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