Exposing Imposters - Page 2 - OzChess

**MOZ** · 07-26-2011, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

...
I am hoping that the source of this bogus email gets tracked down. ...

cheers,

I notice some of the best tech-savvy have got involved in the sleuthing (in particular HBK). If the culprit is bright enough to be hiding behind a proxy then a tech-savvy sleuth may be a necessity.

The rest of us are left like Poirot looking at the text and making of it what we can.
This piece of text caught my eye "u are definately not an...".
Why?
Because >>

Code:

 D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y

So, who spells with the 'a'?

Plug it into Ozchess advanced search and find......

Fatty Owls for one.
But others also.

As Ax says ..."we may be looking at a false flag".

Or even Murder on the Orient Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**Gold Coast** · 07-27-2011, 12:13 AM

Code:

   
  
  Originally Posted by MOZ
  
  
  
  This piece of text caught my eye "u are defina
tely not an...".
Why?
Because >>
	Code:
	 
D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y
So, who spells with the 'a'?

Plug it into Ozchess advanced search and find......

Fatty Owls for one.
But others also.    :Thinking:

As Ax says ..."we may be looking at a false flag".

Or even Murder on 
the Orient Express - Wikipedia, 
the free encyclopedia

MOZ, I am one of them who writes: "definately".

I had no time to write such emails as I had to prepare myself for the Pitbull concert in Brisbane.

‪Pitbull - Rain Over Me ft. Marc Anthony‬&rlm; - YouTube

Could it be possible that the suspect is from a European background? Europeans often make such mistakes and most people who learned German at school.

Hm?

**JaK** · 07-27-2011, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges

Oh! I didnt mean you JAK! I forgot that I was responding to your comments when I had got that far into my post! I meant a generic "you" meaning anyone reading the post! Sorry if it sounded otherwise!

lol OK fine

**JaK** · 07-27-2011, 01:02 AM

Originally Posted by MOZ

I notice some of the best tech-savvy have got involved in the sleuthing (in particular HBK). If the culprit is bright enough to be hiding behind a proxy then a tech-savvy sleuth may be a necessity.

The rest of us are left like Poirot looking at the text and making of it what we can.
This piece of text caught my eye "u are definately not an...".
Why?
Because >>
Code:
 D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y
So, who spells with the 'a'?

Plug it into Ozchess advanced search and find......

Fatty Owls for one.
But others also.

As Ax says ..."we may be looking at a false flag".

Or even Murder on the Orient Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I would definitely never spell "definitely" as definately, but I have noticed that this particular word is misspelled one way or another by half the chess playing (and forum posting) population in Australia!
"I would of", "there instead of "their" etc are other literary distortions which have established themselves as the rule rather than the exception these days!

**JaK** · 07-27-2011, 01:20 AM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

I tend to disagree with some of the sentiment of this post. I think that really the decision ought to be made by the person who gets slandered. If anonymous people are conducting dishonest attacks against a persons character, then they deserve to be exposed for the charlatans they are. If the the person being slandered is fine with the airing of the false allegation then that is fine by me. In that case I support publishing.
cheers,

In all cases (publication or non publication of slandering / defaming posts) depending or non depending on slandered / defamed person's will, a complicated and time consuming prodedure would be required. ie and in case of postings:

Posting is received
Posting is examined by mod a,
posting is re-examined by mod b,
sometimes due to its complexity administrator's - owner's opinion is required
emailing / PM ing person concerned for approval or disapproval of publication
finally allowing or disallowing publication!

phew!!! I, more and more tend to agree with Grant's signature; I would only add "kick the anonymous slanderous bastards out of the forums"!

**Just2Good** · 07-27-2011, 05:23 AM

JaK, out of deference for what just happened in Norway, I would ask that you please reconsider your avatar.

**JaK** · 07-27-2011, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

JaK, out of deference for what just happened in Norway, I would ask that you please reconsider your avatar.

It's unloaded
I would only use it for self defence
In the Oslo events I would have gotten the bastard before he 'd gotten me!

**Amir Karibasic** · 07-27-2011, 06:59 AM

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  Originally Posted by JaK
  
  
  
  phew!!! I, more and more tend to agree with Grant's signature; I would only add 
"kick the anonymous slanderous bastards out of the forums"!

Perhaps you should say this way:

"kick the non-anonymous slanderous bastards out of the CC forum"

With these you will not have so many anonymous posters.

We don't have 'anonymous slanderous bastards' at this forum unless they come from the dark side to stir up trouble.

..btw. JAK this post is not pointed towards you or many others prominent CC members.

.

**JaK** · 07-27-2011, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic

Perhaps you should say this way:

"kick the non-anonymous slanderous bastards out of the CC forum"

With these you will not have so many anonymous posters.

We don't have 'anonymous slanderous bastards' at this forum unless they come from the dark side to stir up trouble.

..btw. JAK this post is not pointed towards you or many others prominent CC members.

.

Hey Amir how are you?
Kick all slandering bastards of both forums out! (Expose them first)!
I don't distinguish between forums because I am not here as a representative of CC, I am here as a member of Ozchess!
Let me also remind you that I 've been subjected to anonymous trolling by low life characters but I will get them one day don't you worry about it!

After all (although I don't know the exact statistics) there must be a sizeable number of posters who belong to both Forums!
Looking forward to see you soon in QLD (or wherever else, in Melbourne maybe?).
From now till early January and the Aus Championships I will be mostly overseas so it will be difficult for me to know times and places, but I will definitely come to one of your weekenders in Gold Coast next year!
My best regards to Mrs Karibasic and the kids!

**JaK** · 07-27-2011, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

JaK, out of deference for what just happened in Norway, I would ask that you please reconsider your avatar.

ok you convinced me!

I will take a picture of my garden flowers, don't call me a hippy then ok?

**Amir Karibasic** · 07-27-2011, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by JaK

Hey Amir how are you?
Kick all slandering bastards of both forums out! (Expose them first)!
I don't distinguish between forums because I am not here as a representative of CC, I am here as a member of Ozchess!
Let me also remind you that I 've been subjected to anonymous trolling by low life characters but I will get them one day don't you worry about it!
After all (although I don't know the exact statistics) there must be a sizeable number of posters who belong to both Forums!
Looking forward to see you soon in QLD (or wherever else, in Melbourne maybe?).
From now till early January and the Aus Championships I will be mostly overseas so it will be difficult for me to know times and places, but I will definitely come to one of your weekenders in Gold Coast next year!
My best regards to Mrs Karibasic and the kids!

Hi JAK.
Thanks - w'e are all fine. We are enjoying this warm Winter

on the Gold Coast.
Unfortunately, my desire to organise any toiurnament in the futrure has been slandered.

Thanks again for particpating in the 2010 Gold Coast Chess Festival.
See you at MCC Cup weekender in Melbourne.

**Firegoat7** · 07-28-2011, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by JaK

In all cases (publication or non publication of slandering / defaming posts) depending or non depending on slandered / defamed person's will, a complicated and time consuming prodedure would be required. ie and in case of postings:

Posting is received

Posting is examined by mod a,

posting is re-examined by mod b,

sometimes due to its complexity administrator's - owner's opinion is required

emailing / PM ing person concerned for approval or disapproval of publication

finally allowing or disallowing publication!

phew!!! I, more and more tend to agree with Grant's signature; I would only add "kick the anonymous slanderous bastards out of the forums"!

The human in me says just go straight to step 5 and ask! Time,patience these are all good things!

**JaK** · 07-28-2011, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic

Hi JAK.
Thanks - w'e are all fine. We are enjoying this warm Winter on the Gold Coast.
Unfortunately, my desire to organise any toiurnament in the futrure has been slandered.
Thanks again for particpating in the 2010 Gold Coast Chess Festival.
See you at MCC Cup weekender in Melbourne.

I will be glad to see you in Melbourne for the MCC Cup Weekender Amir.
As for whoever tried to "slander" you out of organising such wonderful tournaments as the one I participated, don't let them claim a win against you!
People who are ready to put their money where their mouth is, will support and stand by you, because everyone has witnessed the love and care you 've exhibited in organising 2010 GC Chess Festival and other events.

So give it another go!

**JaK** · 07-28-2011, 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

The human in me says just go straight to step 5 and ask! Time,patience these are all good things!

well even in that case, at least one of the previous four is required.
I mean the approval / disapproval seeking e-mail cannot be sent by itself!

**antichrist** · 07-31-2011, 05:41 PM

The privacy of people sending emails or private messages I compare to the priests in the Catholic confessional. It was sort of re-inforced in a case a few years back that the confidentially holds up even if it involved a crime of murder being confessed.

But lo & behold times change. When it was learnt that priests were confessing to paedofilia to get a clean conscious but the priest hearing the confession were keeping it confidential, now there are rumbings that any such confessions of crime have to be reported to the law enforcement authorities.

I think the same should go for privacy of content of private messages on this site - if of a serious nature or abusive etc then let the sender beware.

KB eat your heart you!

07-26-2011, 11:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Is it Murder on the Orient Express. Originally Posted by Firegoat7 ... I am hoping that the source of this bogus email gets tracked down. ... cheers, I notice some of the best tech-savvy have got involved in the sleuthing (in particular HBK). If the culprit is bright enough to be hiding behind a proxy then a tech-savvy sleuth may be a necessity. The rest of us are left like Poirot looking at the text and making of it what we can. This piece of text caught my eye "u are definately not an...". Why? Because >> Code: D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y So, who spells with the 'a'? Plug it into Ozchess advanced search and find...... Fatty Owls for one. But others also. As Ax says ..."we may be looking at a false flag". Or even Murder on the Orient Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

07-27-2011, 12:13 AM	#17 (permalink)
Gold Coast Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: GOLD COAST Posts: 168	Code: Originally Posted by MOZ This piece of text caught my eye "u are defina tely not an...". Why? Because >> Code: D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y So, who spells with the 'a'? Plug it into Ozchess advanced search and find...... Fatty Owls for one. But others also. :Thinking: As Ax says ..."we may be looking at a false flag". Or even Murder on the Orient Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia MOZ, I am one of them who writes: "definately". I had no time to write such emails as I had to prepare myself for the Pitbull concert in Brisbane. ‪Pitbull - Rain Over Me ft. Marc Anthony‬&rlm; - YouTube Could it be possible that the suspect is from a European background? Europeans often make such mistakes and most people who learned German at school. Hm? __________________ . . Visit my: Chesshop Last edited by Gold Coast : 07-27-2011 at 12:41 AM

07-27-2011, 12:55 AM	#18 (permalink)
JaK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges Oh! I didnt mean you JAK! I forgot that I was responding to your comments when I had got that far into my post! I meant a generic "you" meaning anyone reading the post! Sorry if it sounded otherwise! lol OK fine

07-27-2011, 01:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
JaK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by MOZ I notice some of the best tech-savvy have got involved in the sleuthing (in particular HBK). If the culprit is bright enough to be hiding behind a proxy then a tech-savvy sleuth may be a necessity. The rest of us are left like Poirot looking at the text and making of it what we can. This piece of text caught my eye "u are definately not an...". Why? Because >> Code: D-E-F-I-N-I-T-E-L-Y So, who spells with the 'a'? Plug it into Ozchess advanced search and find...... Fatty Owls for one. But others also. As Ax says ..."we may be looking at a false flag". Or even Murder on the Orient Express - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I would definitely never spell "definitely" as definately, but I have noticed that this particular word is misspelled one way or another by half the chess playing (and forum posting) population in Australia! "I would of", "there instead of "their" etc are other literary distortions which have established themselves as the rule rather than the exception these days!

07-27-2011, 01:20 AM	#20 (permalink)
JaK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 I tend to disagree with some of the sentiment of this post. I think that really the decision ought to be made by the person who gets slandered. If anonymous people are conducting dishonest attacks against a persons character, then they deserve to be exposed for the charlatans they are. If the the person being slandered is fine with the airing of the false allegation then that is fine by me. In that case I support publishing. cheers, In all cases (publication or non publication of slandering / defaming posts) depending or non depending on slandered / defamed person's will, a complicated and time consuming prodedure would be required. ie and in case of postings: Posting is received Posting is examined by mod a, posting is re-examined by mod b, sometimes due to its complexity administrator's - owner's opinion is required emailing / PM ing person concerned for approval or disapproval of publication finally allowing or disallowing publication! phew!!! I, more and more tend to agree with Grant's signature; I would only add "kick the anonymous slanderous bastards out of the forums"!

07-27-2011, 05:23 AM	#21 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	JaK, out of deference for what just happened in Norway, I would ask that you please reconsider your avatar. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

07-27-2011, 05:59 AM	#22 (permalink)
JaK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by Just2Good JaK, out of deference for what just happened in Norway, I would ask that you please reconsider your avatar. It's unloaded I would only use it for self defence In the Oslo events I would have gotten the bastard before he 'd gotten me!

07-27-2011, 06:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
Amir Karibasic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 194	Code: Originally Posted by JaK phew!!! I, more and more tend to agree with Grant's signature; I would only add "kick the anonymous slanderous bastards out of the forums"! Perhaps you should say this way: "kick the non-anonymous slanderous bastards out of the CC forum" With these you will not have so many anonymous posters. We don't have 'anonymous slanderous bastards' at this forum unless they come from the dark side to stir up trouble. ..btw. JAK this post is not pointed towards you or many others prominent CC members. . __________________ . Visit my chess shop! Last edited by Amir Karibasic : 07-27-2011 at 08:21 AM

07-27-2011, 03:30 PM	#24 (permalink)
JaK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic Perhaps you should say this way: "kick the non-anonymous slanderous bastards out of the CC forum" With these you will not have so many anonymous posters. We don't have 'anonymous slanderous bastards' at this forum unless they come from the dark side to stir up trouble. ..btw. JAK this post is not pointed towards you or many others prominent CC members. . Hey Amir how are you? Kick all slandering bastards of both forums out! (Expose them first)! I don't distinguish between forums because I am not here as a representative of CC, I am here as a member of Ozchess! Let me also remind you that I 've been subjected to anonymous trolling by low life characters but I will get them one day don't you worry about it! After all (although I don't know the exact statistics) there must be a sizeable number of posters who belong to both Forums! Looking forward to see you soon in QLD (or wherever else, in Melbourne maybe?). From now till early January and the Aus Championships I will be mostly overseas so it will be difficult for me to know times and places, but I will definitely come to one of your weekenders in Gold Coast next year! My best regards to Mrs Karibasic and the kids!

07-27-2011, 05:37 PM	#25 (permalink)
JaK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by Just2Good JaK, out of deference for what just happened in Norway, I would ask that you please reconsider your avatar. ok you convinced me! I will take a picture of my garden flowers, don't call me a hippy then ok?

07-27-2011, 09:32 PM	#26 (permalink)
Amir Karibasic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 194	Originally Posted by JaK Hey Amir how are you? Kick all slandering bastards of both forums out! (Expose them first)! I don't distinguish between forums because I am not here as a representative of CC, I am here as a member of Ozchess! Let me also remind you that I 've been subjected to anonymous trolling by low life characters but I will get them one day don't you worry about it! After all (although I don't know the exact statistics) there must be a sizeable number of posters who belong to both Forums! Looking forward to see you soon in QLD (or wherever else, in Melbourne maybe?). From now till early January and the Aus Championships I will be mostly overseas so it will be difficult for me to know times and places, but I will definitely come to one of your weekenders in Gold Coast next year! My best regards to Mrs Karibasic and the kids! Hi JAK. Thanks - w'e are all fine. We are enjoying this warm Winter on the Gold Coast. Unfortunately, my desire to organise any toiurnament in the futrure has been slandered. Thanks again for particpating in the 2010 Gold Coast Chess Festival. See you at MCC Cup weekender in Melbourne. __________________ . Visit my chess shop!

07-28-2011, 01:14 AM	#27 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 2,044 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by JaK In all cases (publication or non publication of slandering / defaming posts) depending or non depending on slandered / defamed person's will, a complicated and time consuming prodedure would be required. ie and in case of postings: Posting is received Posting is examined by mod a, posting is re-examined by mod b, sometimes due to its complexity administrator's - owner's opinion is required emailing / PM ing person concerned for approval or disapproval of publication finally allowing or disallowing publication! phew!!! I, more and more tend to agree with Grant's signature; I would only add "kick the anonymous slanderous bastards out of the forums"! The human in me says just go straight to step 5 and ask! Time,patience these are all good things! __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

07-28-2011, 01:41 AM	#28 (permalink)
JaK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic Hi JAK. Thanks - w'e are all fine. We are enjoying this warm Winter on the Gold Coast. Unfortunately, my desire to organise any toiurnament in the futrure has been slandered. Thanks again for particpating in the 2010 Gold Coast Chess Festival. See you at MCC Cup weekender in Melbourne. I will be glad to see you in Melbourne for the MCC Cup Weekender Amir. As for whoever tried to "slander" you out of organising such wonderful tournaments as the one I participated, don't let them claim a win against you! People who are ready to put their money where their mouth is, will support and stand by you, because everyone has witnessed the love and care you 've exhibited in organising 2010 GC Chess Festival and other events. So give it another go!

07-28-2011, 01:57 AM	#29 (permalink)
JaK Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 391	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 The human in me says just go straight to step 5 and ask! Time,patience these are all good things! well even in that case, at least one of the previous four is required. I mean the approval / disapproval seeking e-mail cannot be sent by itself!

07-31-2011, 05:41 PM	#30 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Freedom of speech on OZchess hooray The privacy of people sending emails or private messages I compare to the priests in the Catholic confessional. It was sort of re-inforced in a case a few years back that the confidentially holds up even if it involved a crime of murder being confessed. But lo & behold times change. When it was learnt that priests were confessing to paedofilia to get a clean conscious but the priest hearing the confession were keeping it confidential, now there are rumbings that any such confessions of crime have to be reported to the law enforcement authorities. I think the same should go for privacy of content of private messages on this site - if of a serious nature or abusive etc then let the sender beware. KB eat your heart you!

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