How Competitive Do You Want It To Be? - Page 2 - OzChess

**MOZ** · 05-16-2008, 09:56 AM

From Brian Jones

Over the years we have had quite a few players (eg Zhao, Lane, Curtis, Lovejoy) living more than 50km outside Sydney. Why should any of them be disadvantaged by not being given the opportunity to become State Champion?

To do otherwise (and by not attracting the best players eg GMs and IMs) has just lowered the prestige of the State Championship title.

With apologies to many-time title winner Greg Canfell, he has never been the best player in NSW!

I prefer the format used for Australian Masters and/or Victorian Masters.
10 or 12 player FIDE-rated round robin held over one week. Possibly two rounds a day, possible alongside the NSW Open or similar.

Top active players in NSW are: Zhao, Xie, Kanikevich, Lane, Bjelobrk, Feldman, Rej, Illingworth, Smirnov, Tan, Canfell and Scott.

I am sure that many of these would want to play if the rewards were high!

It is up to our administrators to find the money rather than run a second-rate event!

I have pasted the quote here as it seemed to be a counter-point to the line I have been running in this thread.

**MOZ** · 05-20-2008, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by Organiser of the NSW Championship

First prize will be approx $1000. (fairly normal compared to other years)

What makes it attractive to strong players

1) Chance to play other strong players
2) Potential IM norm event
3) Weeknight game meaning that weekends dont have to be sacrificed.
4) A chance to improve your ELO rating (which is alot harder in open events in Aus as there are a lot of people with extremely low ratings and the top players have to almost win every game to maintain their rating!)

I know most of the participants and was able to chase them up reasonably quickly.

*Bolding is mine.

**MOZ** · 06-15-2008, 12:44 AM

Round 8 of the current Box Hill Championship presents a good time to produce the metric on the competitiveness of pairings. This is late in the tournament and the SWISS pairings system could be expected to be representing small absoute differences between ratings of paired competitors.
For 28 boards the mean absolute deviation is 332. Surprisingly high.

MOZ*

**Just2Good** · 06-15-2008, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Round 8 of the current Box Hill Championship presents a good time to produce the metric on the competitiveness of pairings. This is late in the tournament and the SWISS pairings system could be expected to be representing small absoute differences between ratings of paired competitors.
For 28 boards the mean absolute deviation is 332. Surprisingly high.

MOZ*

Does this mean that if the top board is 2200, that the lowest rated player would be 1868? That might sound like a dumb question, sorry.

**MOZ** · 06-15-2008, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

Does this mean that if the top board is 2200, that the lowest rated player would be 1868? That might sound like a dumb question, sorry.

The board 1 in question for the previous round was
1 Cheng, Bobby 1977 [4.5] 0:1 Saw, Geoffrey 2289 [5.5]

The absolute difference for that board is 2289-1977= 312.

If you sum all the differences for round 7, and then average, then this is what is called the mean absolute deviation (see your highlighter pen marking, and notice you missed highlighting one word).

For round 8 the board 1 game is
1 Saw, Geoffrey 2289 [6.5] : Liston, Howard 1792 [5.5]

The absolute deviation for this one is 2289-1792=497

MOZ*

**MOZ** · 01-02-2009, 07:20 PM

Round 1

Code:

1 Chapman, Mark         2402 [0]      1:0    Wan, Dennis             1930 [0]  
 2 Fry, Peter            1925 [0]      0:1    Xie, George             2397 [0]  
 3 Smirnov, Vladimir     2372 [0]      1:0    Lilly, Richard          1915 [0]  
 4 Caron, Damien         1914 [0]      0:1    Wohl, Aleksander H      2342 [0]  
 5 Sales, Jesse Noel     2340 [0]      1:0    Ruan, Jack              1908 [0]  
 6 Redgrave, John        1882 [0]      0:1    Rej, Tomek              2330 [0]  
 7 Lyell, Mark           2287 [0]      1:0    Abbott, Peter           1858 [0]  
 8 Bleicher, Horst       1840 [0]      0:1    Illingworth, Max        2250 [0]  
 9 Ayvazyan, Armen       2232 [0]      1:0    Myers, Stephen P        1807 [0]  
10 Russell, Luthien      1786 [0]      0:1    Stojic, Dusan           2219 [0]  
11 Hu, Jason             2182 [0]      1:0    Encel, Benjamin         1781 [0]  
12 Guo, Emma             1778 [0]     .5:.5   Bolens, Johny           2180 [0]  
13 Jakirlic, Nermin      2162 [0]     .5:.5   Glissan, Paul           1767 [0]  
14 Baterowicz, Mark      1727 [0]      0:1    Sheldrick, Kevin        2161 [0]  
15 Mandla, Blair         2116 [0]      1:0    Mcgregor, Allan              [0]  
16 Cox, Barry                 [0]      0:1    Broekhuyse, Paul        2116 [0]  
17 Schon, Eugene         2115 [0]      1:0    Pevzner, Moissei             [0]  
18 Zoppi, Mario               [0]     .5:.5   Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija 2102 [0]  
19 Morris, James         2089 [0]      1:0    Slidziunas, John             [0]  
20 Kong, Adrian               [0]      1:0    Krstic, Slobodan        2064 [0]  
21 Furst, Andrew         2062 [0]      1:0    Papp, Alexander              [0]  
22 Mejzini, Jack              [0]      0:1    Harp, Joel              2031 [0]  
23 Nilsson, Lars Kjoller 2030 [0]      1:0    Talum, Lito                  [0]  
24 Wang, Oscar                [0]      0:1    Mortensen, Henrik       2022 [0]  
25 Lovejoy, David        2014 [0]      1:0    Stokes, Mark C               [0]  
26 Ruan, Harry                [0]      0:1    Svendsen, Peter         2007 [0]  
27 Dunn, Michael Gl      1986 [0]      1:0    Cuellar, Chris               [0]  
28 Buciu, Aurel-John          [0]      0:1    Weller, Tony            1985 [0]  
29 Voon, Richard         1976 [0]      1:0    Javor, Stephen               [0]  
30 Press, Brian J             [0]      0:1    Stojic, Svetozar        1972 [0]  
31 Chan, Jason           2055 [0]      1:0    Feduniw, Terry               [0]  
32 Tan, Kevin                 [0]      0:1    Davis, Tony J           1967 [0]  
33 Rout, Ian C           1949 [0]      1:0    Anderson, Michael            [0]  
34 Tombak, Mikhail            [0]      0:1    Van Der Wal, Fritz W    1944 [0]  
35 Ali, Mosaddeque       1943 [0]      1:0    Schuetz, Fred                [0]  
36 Vogelmann, Arno            [0]     .5:.5   Canfell, Mike J         1931 [0]  
37 Gibbon, Grahame            [0]      1:0    BYE

**Herbert** · 01-03-2009, 09:36 PM

What is the liklihood that George Xie and Mark Chapman will finish 1-2?

**MOZ** · 01-03-2009, 10:12 PM

^
One of those occasions where a question very easy to phrase and understand, but the calculation of the answer would be testing.

**MOZ** · 01-03-2009, 10:35 PM

Code:

1 Chapman, Mark         2402 [2]      1:0    Ayvazyan, Armen         2232 [2]  
 2 Mandla, Blair         2116 [2]      1:0    Xie, George             2397 [2]  
 3 Smirnov, Vladimir     2372 [2]      1:0    Sheldrick, Kevin        2161 [2]  
 4 Schon, Eugene         2115 [2]      0:1    Wohl, Aleksander H      2342 [2]  
 5 Sales, Jesse Noel     2340 [2]      1:0    Svendsen, Peter         2007 [2]  
 6 Morris, James         2089 [2]      1:0    Rej, Tomek              2330 [2]  
 7 Chan, Jason           2055 [2]     .5:.5   Illingworth, Max        2250 [2]  
 8 Rout, Ian C           1949 [2]      1:0    Bolens, Johny           2180 [1.5]
 9 Hu, Jason             2182 [1.5]    1:0    Canfell, Mike J         1931 [1.5]
10 Stojic, Svetozar      1972 [1.5]    0:1    Broekhuyse, Paul        2116 [1.5]
11 Kong, Adrian               [1.5]    1:0    Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija 2102 [1.5]
12 Lyell, Mark           2287 [1]      1:0    Glissan, Paul           1767 [1.5]
13 Ali, Mosaddeque       1943 [1]      0:1    Stojic, Dusan           2219 [1]  
14 Wan, Dennis           1930 [1]      0:1    Krstic, Slobodan        2064 [1]  
15 Redgrave, John        1882 [1]      0:1    Furst, Andrew           2062 [1]  
16 Myers, Stephen P      1807 [1]      0:1    Harp, Joel              2031 [1]  
17 Nilsson, Lars Kjoller 2030 [1]      1:0    Mcgregor, Allan              [1]  
18 Baterowicz, Mark      1727 [1]     .5:.5   Mortensen, Henrik       2022 [1]  
19 Lovejoy, David        2014 [1]     .5:.5   Cuellar, Chris               [1]  
20 Dunn, Michael Gl      1986 [1]      1:0    Stokes, Mark C               [1]  
21 Cox, Barry                 [1]      1:0    Weller, Tony            1985 [1]  
22 Voon, Richard         1976 [1]      +:-    Gibbon, Grahame              [1]  
23 Wang, Oscar                [1]      1:0    Davis, Tony J           1967 [1]  
24 Schuetz, Fred              [1]      0:1    Van Der Wal, Fritz W    1944 [1]  
25 Jakirlic, Nermin      2162 [.5]     1:0    Guo, Emma               1778 [.5] 
26 Zoppi, Mario               [.5]    .5:.5   Nowak, Miroslaw         2064 [.5] 
27 Fry, Peter            1925 [.5]     1:0    Papp, Alexander              [.5] 
28 Caron, Damien         1914 [.5]     1:0    Javor, Stephen               [.5] 
29 Buciu, Aurel-John          [.5]     0:1    Ruan, Jack              1908 [.5] 
30 Tan, Kevin                 [.5]     1:0    Abbott, Peter           1858 [.5] 
31 Russell, Luthien      1786 [.5]     0:1    Slidziunas, John             [.5] 
32 Ruan, Harry                [.5]    .5:.5   Encel, Benjamin         1781 [.5] 
33 Vogelmann, Arno            [.5]     0:1    Lilly, Richard          1915 [0]  
34 Rachmadi, Herman      1840 [0]      1:0    Talum, Lito                  [0]  
35 Bleicher, Horst       1840 [0]      1:0    Press, Brian J               [0]  
36 Pevzner, Moissei           [0]      0:1    Feduniw, Terry               [0]  
37 Mejzini, Jack              [0]      1:0    Anderson, Michael            [0]

**Just2Good** · 01-03-2009, 10:47 PM

What about Round 2?

**MOZ** · 01-03-2009, 11:40 PM

^
Finding it hard to locate the pairings and results.

**MOZ** · 01-04-2009, 05:07 PM

Code:

1 Sales, Jesse Noel       2340 [3]      1:0    Chapman, Mark         2402 [3]  
 2 Mandla, Blair           2116 [3]      0:1    Smirnov, Vladimir     2372 [3]  
 3 Wohl, Aleksander H      2342 [3]      1:0    Rout, Ian C           1949 [3]  
 4 Illingworth, Max        2250 [2.5]   .5:.5   Morris, James         2089 [3]  
 5 Kong, Adrian                 [2.5]    0:1    Hu, Jason             2182 [2.5]
 6 Broekhuyse, Paul        2116 [2.5]    0:1    Chan, Jason           2055 [2.5]
 7 Xie, George             2397 [2]      1:0    Furst, Andrew         2062 [2]  
 8 Rej, Tomek              2330 [2]      1:0    Harp, Joel            2031 [2]  
 9 Voon, Richard           1976 [2]      1:0    Lyell, Mark           2287 [2]  
10 Ayvazyan, Armen         2232 [2]      1:0    Nilsson, Lars Kjoller 2030 [2]  
11 Stojic, Dusan           2219 [2]      1:0    Dunn, Michael Gl      1986 [2]  
12 Sheldrick, Kevin        2161 [2]      1:0    Van Der Wal, Fritz W  1944 [2]  
13 Svendsen, Peter         2007 [2]      0:1    Schon, Eugene         2115 [2]  
14 Krstic, Slobodan        2064 [2]     .5:.5   Cox, Barry                 [2]  
15 Bolens, Johny           2180 [1.5]    1:0    Fry, Peter            1925 [1.5]
16 Ruan, Jack              1908 [1.5]    0:1    Jakirlic, Nermin      2162 [1.5]
17 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija 2102 [1.5]    0:1    Caron, Damien         1914 [1.5]
18 Mortensen, Henrik       2022 [1.5]   .5:.5   Tan, Kevin                 [1.5]
19 Glissan, Paul           1767 [1.5]   .5:.5   Lovejoy, David        2014 [1.5]
20 Slidziunas, John             [1.5]    0:1    Stojic, Svetozar      1972 [1.5]
21 Davis, Tony J           1967 [1.5]    1:0    Baterowicz, Mark      1727 [1.5]
22 Canfell, Mike J         1931 [1.5]    1:0    Wang, Oscar                [1.5]
23 Cuellar, Chris               [1.5]    0:1    Ali, Mosaddeque       1943 [1]  
24 Nowak, Miroslaw         2064 [1]      1:0    Mejzini, Jack              [1]  
25 Weller, Tony            1985 [1]      1:0    Zoppi, Mario               [1]  
26 Mcgregor, Allan              [1]      1:0    Wan, Dennis           1930 [1]  
27 Lilly, Richard          1915 [1]     .5:.5   Ruan, Harry                [1]  
28 Stokes, Mark C               [1]      0:1    Redgrave, John        1882 [1]  
29 Feduniw, Terry               [1]      0:1    Rachmadi, Herman      1840 [1]  
30 Tombak, Mikhail              [1]      0:1    Bleicher, Horst       1840 [1]  
31 Schuetz, Fred                [1]      0:1    Myers, Stephen P      1807 [1]  
32 Encel, Benjamin         1781 [1]      +:-    Gibbon, Grahame            [1]  
33 Abbott, Peter           1858 [.5]     1:0    Vogelmann, Arno            [.5] 
34 Papp, Alexander              [.5]     0:1    Russell, Luthien      1786 [.5] 
35 Guo, Emma               1778 [.5]     1:0    Buciu, Aurel-John          [.5] 
36 Javor, Stephen               [.5]    .5:.5   Pevzner, Moissei           [0]  
37 Press, Brian J               [0]      0:1    Talum, Lito                [0]

**Virgil** · 01-05-2009, 05:36 PM

Code:

 1 Wohl, Aleksander H      2342 [4.5]    1:0    Sales, Jesse Noel     2340 [5]  
 2 Chapman, Mark           2402 [4]     .5:.5   Smirnov, Vladimir     2372 [4.5]
 3 Xie, George             2397 [4]      0:1    Schon, Eugene         2115 [4]  
 4 Hu, Jason               2182 [4]      0:1    Rej, Tomek            2330 [4]  
 5 Illingworth, Max        2250 [3.5]    1:0    Stojic, Svetozar      1972 [3.5]
 6 Bolens, Johny           2180 [3.5]    1:0    Chan, Jason           2055 [3.5]
 7 Broekhuyse, Paul        2116 [3.5]   .5:.5   Rout, Ian C           1949 [3.5]
 8 Voon, Richard           1976 [3.5]    0:1    Morris, James         2089 [3.5]
 9 Davis, Tony J           1967 [3.5]    1:0    Nilsson, Lars Kjoller 2030 [3]  
10 Canfell, Mike J         1931 [3]      0:1    Ayvazyan, Armen       2232 [3]  
11 Stojic, Dusan           2219 [3]      1:0    Furst, Andrew         2062 [3]  
12 Sheldrick, Kevin        2161 [3]      0:1    Redgrave, John        1882 [3]  
13 Glissan, Paul           1767 [3]      0:1    Mandla, Blair         2116 [3]  
14 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija 2102 [2.5]    0:1    Tan, Kevin                 [3]  
15 Rachmadi, Herman        1840 [2.5]    0:1    Lyell, Mark           2287 [2.5]
16 Myers, Stephen P        1807 [2.5]    0:1    Jakirlic, Nermin      2162 [2.5]
17 Krstic, Slobodan        2064 [2.5]    0:1    Caron, Damien         1914 [2.5]
18 Harp, Joel              2031 [2.5]    1:0    Bleicher, Horst       1840 [2.5]
19 Mortensen, Henrik       2022 [2.5]    1:0    Russell, Luthien      1786 [2.5]
20 Mcgregor, Allan              [2.5]    0:1    Lovejoy, David        2014 [2.5]
21 Svendsen, Peter         2007 [2.5]    1:0    Cox, Barry                 [2.5]
22 Van Der Wal, Fritz W    1944 [2.5]   .5:.5   Encel, Benjamin       1781 [2.5]
23 Ali, Mosaddeque         1943 [2.5]    0:1    Kong, Adrian               [2.5]
24 Nowak, Miroslaw         2064 [2]      1:0    Slidziunas, John           [2]  
25 Guo, Emma               1778 [2]      0:1    Dunn, Michael Gl      1986 [2]  
26 Weller, Tony            1985 [2]      0:1    Ruan, Harry                [2]  
27 Talum, Lito                  [2]     .5:.5   Wan, Dennis           1930 [2]  
28 Stokes, Mark C               [2]      0:1    Fry, Peter            1925 [2]  
29 Lilly, Richard          1915 [2]      1:0    Zoppi, Mario               [2]  
30 Ruan, Jack              1908 [2]      1:0    Mejzini, Jack              [2]  
31 Abbott, Peter           1858 [2]     .5:.5   Wang, Oscar                [2]  
32 Papp, Alexander              [1.5]    1:0    Baterowicz, Mark      1727 [1.5]
33 Cuellar, Chris               [1.5]   .5:.5   Pevzner, Moissei           [1.5]
34 Javor, Stephen               [1]      1:0    Anderson, Michael          [1]  
35 Tombak, Mikhail              [1]      0:1    Press, Brian J             [1]  
36 Feduniw, Terry               [1]      1:0    Schuetz, Fred              [1]  
37 Buciu, Aurel-John            [.5]     1:0    Vogelmann, Arno            [.5]

**MOZ** · 01-07-2009, 06:49 PM

Code:

1 Rej, Tomek            2330 [5]      0:1    Wohl, Aleksander H      2342 [5.5]
 2 Sales, Jesse Noel     2340 [5]     .5:.5   Smirnov, Vladimir       2372 [5]  
 3 Schon, Eugene         2115 [5]     .5:.5   Illingworth, Max        2250 [4.5]
 4 Morris, James         2089 [4.5]    0:1    Chapman, Mark           2402 [4.5]
 5 Davis, Tony J         1967 [4.5]    1:0    Bolens, Johny           2180 [4.5]
 6 Rout, Ian C           1949 [4]      0:1    Xie, George             2397 [4]  
 7 Ayvazyan, Armen       2232 [4]      0:1    Broekhuyse, Paul        2116 [4]  
 8 Mandla, Blair         2116 [4]      1:0    Stojic, Dusan           2219 [4]  
 9 Tan, Kevin                 [4]      0:1    Hu, Jason               2182 [4]  
10 Redgrave, John        1882 [4]      0:1    Lyell, Mark             2287 [3.5]
11 Jakirlic, Nermin      2162 [3.5]    0:1    Svendsen, Peter         2007 [3.5]
12 Chan, Jason           2055 [3.5]   .5:.5   Voon, Richard           1976 [3.5]
13 Stojic, Svetozar      1972 [3.5]    0:1    Harp, Joel              2031 [3.5]
14 Caron, Damien         1914 [3.5]   .5:.5   Mortensen, Henrik       2022 [3.5]
15 Kong, Adrian               [3.5]    0:1    Lovejoy, David          2014 [3.5]
16 Fry, Peter            1925 [3]      0:1    Sheldrick, Kevin        2161 [3]  
17 Encel, Benjamin       1781 [3]      1:0    Nowak, Miroslaw         2064 [3]  
18 Furst, Andrew         2062 [3]      1:0    Canfell, Mike J         1931 [3]  
19 Nilsson, Lars Kjoller 2030 [3]     .5:.5   Lilly, Richard          1915 [3]  
20 Dunn, Michael Gl      1986 [3]      0:1    Ruan, Jack              1908 [3]  
21 Ruan, Harry                [3]      0:1    Van Der Wal, Fritz W    1944 [3]  
22 Krstic, Slobodan      2064 [2.5]    1:0    Glissan, Paul           1767 [3]  
23 Russell, Luthien      1786 [2.5]    0:1    Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija 2102 [2.5]
24 Wang, Oscar                [2.5]    0:1    Ali, Mosaddeque         1943 [2.5]
25 Wan, Dennis           1930 [2.5]    0:1    Myers, Stephen P        1807 [2.5]
26 Cox, Barry                 [2.5]   .5:.5   Abbott, Peter           1858 [2.5]
27 Rachmadi, Herman      1840 [2.5]    0:1    Mcgregor, Allan              [2.5]
28 Bleicher, Horst       1840 [2.5]   .5:.5   Papp, Alexander              [2.5]
29 Weller, Tony          1985 [2]      1:0    Talum, Lito                  [2.5]
30 Press, Brian J             [2]      0:1    Guo, Emma               1778 [2]  
31 Pevzner, Moissei           [2]      1:0    Stokes, Mark C               [2]  
32 Zoppi, Mario               [2]     .5:.5   Cuellar, Chris               [2]  
33 Slidziunas, John           [2]      0:1    Javor, Stephen               [2]  
34 Mejzini, Jack              [2]      1:0    Feduniw, Terry               [2]  
35 Baterowicz, Mark      1727 [1.5]   .5:.5   Buciu, Aurel-John            [1.5]
36 Anderson, Michael          [1]      0:1    Tombak, Mikhail              [1]  
37 Schuetz, Fred              [1]      1:0    Vogelmann, Arno              [.5]

**MOZ** · 01-08-2009, 07:27 PM

Code:

1 Wohl, Aleksander H      2342 [6.5]   .5:.5   Chapman, Mark         2402 [5.5]
 2 Smirnov, Vladimir       2372 [5.5]    0:1    Schon, Eugene         2115 [5.5]
 3 Sales, Jesse Noel       2340 [5.5]    1:0    Davis, Tony J         1967 [5.5]
 4 Xie, George             2397 [5]      1:0    Hu, Jason             2182 [5]  
 5 Broekhuyse, Paul        2116 [5]      1:0    Rej, Tomek            2330 [5]  
 6 Illingworth, Max        2250 [5]     .5:.5   Mandla, Blair         2116 [5]  
 7 Lyell, Mark             2287 [4.5]    1:0    Harp, Joel            2031 [4.5]
 8 Lovejoy, David          2014 [4.5]   .5:.5   Bolens, Johny         2180 [4.5]
 9 Svendsen, Peter         2007 [4.5]    0:1    Morris, James         2089 [4.5]
10 Rout, Ian C             1949 [4]      1:0    Ayvazyan, Armen       2232 [4]  
11 Stojic, Dusan           2219 [4]      1:0    Caron, Damien         1914 [4]  
12 Sheldrick, Kevin        2161 [4]      1:0    Encel, Benjamin       1781 [4]  
13 Van Der Wal, Fritz W    1944 [4]     .5:.5   Furst, Andrew         2062 [4]  
14 Ruan, Jack              1908 [4]      0:1    Chan, Jason           2055 [4]  
15 Mortensen, Henrik       2022 [4]      1:0    Redgrave, John        1882 [4]  
16 Voon, Richard           1976 [4]      1:0    Tan, Kevin                 [4]  
17 Ali, Mosaddeque         1943 [3.5]    0:1    Jakirlic, Nermin      2162 [3.5]
18 Dizdarevic, Mehmedalija 2102 [3.5]    1:0    Stojic, Svetozar      1972 [3.5]
19 Mcgregor, Allan              [3.5]    1:0    Krstic, Slobodan      2064 [3.5]
20 Myers, Stephen P        1807 [3.5]    0:1    Nilsson, Lars Kjoller 2030 [3.5]
21 Lilly, Richard          1915 [3.5]    0:1    Kong, Adrian               [3.5]
22 Nowak, Miroslaw         2064 [3]      1:0    Cox, Barry                 [3]  
23 Pevzner, Moissei             [3]      0:1    Dunn, Michael Gl      1986 [3]  
24 Papp, Alexander              [3]      1:0    Weller, Tony          1985 [3]  
25 Canfell, Mike J         1931 [3]      0:1    Ruan, Harry                [3]  
26 Glissan, Paul           1767 [3]      0:1    Fry, Peter            1925 [3]  
27 Abbott, Peter           1858 [3]      1:0    Mejzini, Jack              [3]  
28 Guo, Emma               1778 [3]      1:0    Bleicher, Horst       1840 [3]  
29 Javor, Stephen               [3]      0:1    Rachmadi, Herman      1840 [2.5]
30 Cuellar, Chris               [2.5]   .5:.5   Wan, Dennis           1930 [2.5]
31 Talum, Lito                  [2.5]    0:1    Russell, Luthien      1786 [2.5]
32 Wang, Oscar                  [2.5]    0:1    Zoppi, Mario               [2.5]
33 Tombak, Mikhail              [2]      0:1    Baterowicz, Mark      1727 [2]  
34 Feduniw, Terry               [2]      0:1    Slidziunas, John           [2]  
35 Stokes, Mark C               [2]      1:0    Press, Brian J             [2]  
36 Buciu, Aurel-John            [2]      1:0    Schuetz, Fred              [2]  
37 Vogelmann, Arno              [.5]     1:0    Anderson, Michael          [1]

05-16-2008, 09:56 AM	#16 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,495	Introducing balance. Introduce the money and the elite will follow? From Brian Jones Over the years we have had quite a few players (eg Zhao, Lane, Curtis, Lovejoy) living more than 50km outside Sydney. Why should any of them be disadvantaged by not being given the opportunity to become State Champion? To do otherwise (and by not attracting the best players eg GMs and IMs) has just lowered the prestige of the State Championship title. With apologies to many-time title winner Greg Canfell, he has never been the best player in NSW! I prefer the format used for Australian Masters and/or Victorian Masters. 10 or 12 player FIDE-rated round robin held over one week. Possibly two rounds a day, possible alongside the NSW Open or similar. Top active players in NSW are: Zhao, Xie, Kanikevich, Lane, Bjelobrk, Feldman, Rej, Illingworth, Smirnov, Tan, Canfell and Scott. I am sure that many of these would want to play if the rewards were high! It is up to our administrators to find the money rather than run a second-rate event! I have pasted the quote here as it seemed to be a counter-point to the line I have been running in this thread. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

05-20-2008, 03:09 PM	#17 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,495	Originally Posted by Organiser of the NSW Championship First prize will be approx $1000. (fairly normal compared to other years) What makes it attractive to strong players 1) Chance to play other strong players 2) Potential IM norm event 3) Weeknight game meaning that weekends dont have to be sacrificed. 4) A chance to improve your ELO rating (which is alot harder in open events in Aus as there are a lot of people with extremely low ratings and the top players have to almost win every game to maintain their rating!) I know most of the participants and was able to chase them up reasonably quickly. Bolding is mine. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole* game.

06-15-2008, 12:44 AM	#18 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,495	Not for the faint-hearted nor the superficial. Round 8 of the current Box Hill Championship presents a good time to produce the metric on the competitiveness of pairings. This is late in the tournament and the SWISS pairings system could be expected to be representing small absoute differences between ratings of paired competitors. For 28 boards the mean absolute deviation is 332. Surprisingly high. MOZ* __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

06-15-2008, 01:45 PM	#19 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by MOZ Round 8 of the current Box Hill Championship presents a good time to produce the metric on the competitiveness of pairings. This is late in the tournament and the SWISS pairings system could be expected to be representing small absoute differences between ratings of paired competitors. For 28 boards the mean absolute deviation is 332. Surprisingly high. MOZ* Does this mean that if the top board is 2200, that the lowest rated player would be 1868? That might sound like a dumb question, sorry. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

06-15-2008, 04:02 PM	#20 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,495	Originally Posted by Arrogant-One Does this mean that if the top board is 2200, that the lowest rated player would be 1868? That might sound like a dumb question, sorry. The board 1 in question for the previous round was 1 Cheng, Bobby 1977 [4.5] 0:1 Saw, Geoffrey 2289 [5.5] The absolute difference for that board is 2289-1977= 312. If you sum all the differences for round 7, and then average, then this is what is called the mean absolute deviation (see your highlighter pen marking, and notice you missed highlighting one word). For round 8 the board 1 game is 1 Saw, Geoffrey 2289 [6.5] : Liston, Howard 1792 [5.5] The absolute deviation for this one is 2289-1792=497 MOZ* __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game. Last edited by MOZ : 06-15-2008 at 04:36 PM

01-03-2009, 09:36 PM	#22 (permalink)
Herbert Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Geelong Posts: 58	What is the liklihood that George Xie and Mark Chapman will finish 1-2?

01-03-2009, 10:12 PM	#23 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,495	Good question though. ^ One of those occasions where a question very easy to phrase and understand, but the calculation of the answer would be testing. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

01-03-2009, 10:47 PM	#25 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	What about Round 2? __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

01-03-2009, 11:40 PM	#26 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,495	^ Finding it hard to locate the pairings and results. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

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