What Improved Your Chess The Most? - Page 5 - OzChess

**Thomas Bishop** · 09-01-2010, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by antichrist

My biggest leap of confidence came when bashing Comeback Kid day after day - he was like limp seaweed - he fell for fools mate about 6 times

Why do you have a need to brag about beating others? Is your self esteem really that low?

**antichrist** · 09-01-2010, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Thomas Bishop

Why do you have a need to brag about beating others? Is your self esteem really that low?

I have never played him if that lets your little sould rest in peace. But I am sure I could box his ears given half the chance

**Axiom** · 09-01-2010, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by antichrist

I have never played him if that lets your little sould rest in peace. But I am sure I could box his ears given half the chance

yeah , look, i've done it ,......its not that hard .

**YelenaDembo** · 09-18-2010, 06:03 PM

Study a reasonable amount of time every day or every week, make a shedule of what you have studied or have to study, play games and later analyse them yourself or with a coach, to see what your mistakes are and if you see you still have similiar mistakes after a while, make a plan of how to improve exactly this problem.

**Iconoclast** · 09-18-2010, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by YelenaDembo

Study a reasonable amount of time every day or every week, make a shedule of what you have studied or have to study, play games and later analyse them yourself or with a coach, to see what your mistakes are and if you see you still have similiar mistakes after a while, make a plan of how to improve exactly this problem.

But what do YOU do?

**YelenaDembo** · 09-18-2010, 06:43 PM

I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books

**Iconoclast** · 09-18-2010, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by YelenaDembo

I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books

Sounds goods. Best of luck to you

**Axiom** · 09-18-2010, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by YelenaDembo

I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books

Good evening .

I am Axiom .

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**Noddy** · 09-18-2010, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by YelenaDembo

I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books

What were the 5 endgame books? Should I also study endgames to improve my chess, or should I just stick to learning new opening lines?

**YelenaDembo** · 09-18-2010, 11:16 PM

One has to study all phases of teh game in order to improve. Opening is an important phase, of course, but one of

These were Shereshevsky books.

**antichrist** · 09-18-2010, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by YelenaDembo

I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books

Well I only had to study 3 endgame books to become a grandmaster

**Just2Good** · 09-19-2010, 02:11 AM

Originally Posted by YelenaDembo

These were Shereshevsky books.

Is one of them entitled My System?

**santa** · 09-19-2010, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Noddy

should I just stick to learning new opening lines?

According to IM Jammo, openings aren't that important.

The fact the Topalov claimed to "win" the openings in most of the games in his recent match with Anand while losing the match suggests Jammo might have a point.

Look on the opening as a path to the kind of middle game that you find comfortable (or leads to position where you need practice!)

If you do lose a game in the opening, send in the crash investigators! Learn why, and how to play it better next time.

Writers regularly encourage beginners to study grandmaster games. The problem with that advice is that most beginners have no prospect of understanding the games, and the lessons beginners need to learn - pins, forks, skewers, just don't occur very frequently in grandmaster games, or they are so well hidden that beginners will not see them.

I have been watching some games between players rated 1500-2000 or so on FICS, and they are good for beginners because players do fall victim to forks, skewers, pins and so on.

Games where some lunatic FM gets stuck into a GM can be fun to watch too.

Whatever you do, it should be fun.

**Gadabout** · 09-19-2010, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by santa

According to IM Jammo, openings aren't that important.

The fact the Topalov claimed to "win" the openings in most of the games in his recent match with Anand while losing the match suggests Jammo might have a point.

I agree with these comments of yours. Opening PRINCIPLES should be taught, but opening LINES is of less significance.

Look on the opening as a path to the kind of middle game that you find comfortable (or leads to position where you need practice!)

If you do lose a game in the opening, send in the crash investigators! Learn why, and how to play it better next time.

What better place to learn post-mortem analysis than at a Club.

Writers regularly encourage beginners to study grandmaster games. The problem with that advice is that most beginners have no prospect of understanding the games, and the lessons beginners need to learn - pins, forks, skewers, just don't occur very frequently in grandmaster games, or they are so well hidden that beginners will not see them.

Perhaps some books are better than others on this point.

I have been watching some games between players rated 1500-2000 or so on FICS, and they are good for beginners because players do fall victim to forks, skewers, pins and so on.

Watching can hardly be classed as learning.

Games where some lunatic FM gets stuck into a GM can be fun to watch too.

Whatever you do, it should be fun.

Your post matches my view on most points except this one.
I prefer to advise
"Whatever you do, it should be challenging".

If it is fun you want then play Pacman.

**Just2Good** · 09-19-2010, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by santa

According to IM Jammo, openings aren't that important.

The fact the Topalov claimed to "win" the openings in most of the games in his recent match with Anand while losing the match suggests Jammo might have a point.

Look on the opening as a path to the kind of middle game that you find comfortable (or leads to position where you need practice!)

If you do lose a game in the opening, send in the crash investigators! Learn why, and how to play it better next time.

Writers regularly encourage beginners to study grandmaster games. The problem with that advice is that most beginners have no prospect of understanding the games, and the lessons beginners need to learn - pins, forks, skewers, just don't occur very frequently in grandmaster games, or they are so well hidden that beginners will not see them.

I have been watching some games between players rated 1500-2000 or so on FICS, and they are good for beginners because players do fall victim to forks, skewers, pins and so on.

Games where some lunatic FM gets stuck into a GM can be fun to watch too.

Whatever you do, it should be fun.

Santa, I love you for two reasons.

Firstly, that avatar of your's just brightens my day whenever I see it.

Secondly, you are usually spot on with what you write about in your posts!

Two (2) cheers for Santa!

09-01-2010, 08:40 AM	#61 (permalink)
Thomas Bishop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 248	Originally Posted by antichrist My biggest leap of confidence came when bashing Comeback Kid day after day - he was like limp seaweed - he fell for fools mate about 6 times Why do you have a need to brag about beating others? Is your self esteem really that low?

09-01-2010, 09:04 PM	#62 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,548	Originally Posted by Thomas Bishop Why do you have a need to brag about beating others? Is your self esteem really that low? I have never played him if that lets your little sould rest in peace. But I am sure I could box his ears given half the chance

09-01-2010, 09:15 PM	#63 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	just quietly Originally Posted by antichrist I have never played him if that lets your little sould rest in peace. But I am sure I could box his ears given half the chance yeah , look, i've done it ,......its not that hard . __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

09-18-2010, 06:03 PM	#64 (permalink)
YelenaDembo Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 18	Study a reasonable amount of time every day or every week, make a shedule of what you have studied or have to study, play games and later analyse them yourself or with a coach, to see what your mistakes are and if you see you still have similiar mistakes after a while, make a plan of how to improve exactly this problem. __________________ WGM/IM Yelena Dembo yelenadembo.com

09-18-2010, 06:26 PM	#65 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by YelenaDembo Study a reasonable amount of time every day or every week, make a shedule of what you have studied or have to study, play games and later analyse them yourself or with a coach, to see what your mistakes are and if you see you still have similiar mistakes after a while, make a plan of how to improve exactly this problem. But what do YOU do? __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

09-18-2010, 06:43 PM	#66 (permalink)
YelenaDembo Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 18	I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books __________________ WGM/IM Yelena Dembo yelenadembo.com

09-18-2010, 10:08 PM	#67 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by YelenaDembo I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books Sounds goods. Best of luck to you __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

09-18-2010, 10:17 PM	#68 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by YelenaDembo I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books Good evening . I am Axiom . (< __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

09-18-2010, 11:10 PM	#69 (permalink)
Noddy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toyland Posts: 255	Originally Posted by YelenaDembo I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books What were the 5 endgame books? Should I also study endgames to improve my chess, or should I just stick to learning new opening lines? __________________ Make Way for Noddy.

09-18-2010, 11:16 PM	#70 (permalink)
YelenaDembo Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 18	One has to study all phases of teh game in order to improve. Opening is an important phase, of course, but one of These were Shereshevsky books. __________________ WGM/IM Yelena Dembo yelenadembo.com

09-18-2010, 11:56 PM	#71 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,548	Originally Posted by YelenaDembo I study my own theory which I chose for myself and gathered from different books, I solve puzzles for my level, study games of world champions, and solve studies. So, generally work on all chess. Sometimes I vary and study middlegame from books. Years ago, when I wanted to improve from 2300+ elo, I studied 5 endgames books Well I only had to study 3 endgame books to become a grandmaster

09-19-2010, 02:11 AM	#72 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by YelenaDembo These were Shereshevsky books. Is one of them entitled My System? __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

09-19-2010, 12:00 PM	#73 (permalink)
santa Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Meadow Springs wa Posts: 63 FICS Handle: johncs	Originally Posted by Noddy should I just stick to learning new opening lines? According to IM Jammo, openings aren't that important. The fact the Topalov claimed to "win" the openings in most of the games in his recent match with Anand while losing the match suggests Jammo might have a point. Look on the opening as a path to the kind of middle game that you find comfortable (or leads to position where you need practice!) If you do lose a game in the opening, send in the crash investigators! Learn why, and how to play it better next time. Writers regularly encourage beginners to study grandmaster games. The problem with that advice is that most beginners have no prospect of understanding the games, and the lessons beginners need to learn - pins, forks, skewers, just don't occur very frequently in grandmaster games, or they are so well hidden that beginners will not see them. I have been watching some games between players rated 1500-2000 or so on FICS, and they are good for beginners because players do fall victim to forks, skewers, pins and so on. Games where some lunatic FM gets stuck into a GM can be fun to watch too. Whatever you do, it should be fun.

09-19-2010, 12:30 PM	#74 (permalink)
Gadabout Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 16	Originally Posted by santa According to IM Jammo, openings aren't that important. The fact the Topalov claimed to "win" the openings in most of the games in his recent match with Anand while losing the match suggests Jammo might have a point. I agree with these comments of yours. Opening PRINCIPLES should be taught, but opening LINES is of less significance. Look on the opening as a path to the kind of middle game that you find comfortable (or leads to position where you need practice!) If you do lose a game in the opening, send in the crash investigators! Learn why, and how to play it better next time. What better place to learn post-mortem analysis than at a Club. Writers regularly encourage beginners to study grandmaster games. The problem with that advice is that most beginners have no prospect of understanding the games, and the lessons beginners need to learn - pins, forks, skewers, just don't occur very frequently in grandmaster games, or they are so well hidden that beginners will not see them. Perhaps some books are better than others on this point. I have been watching some games between players rated 1500-2000 or so on FICS, and they are good for beginners because players do fall victim to forks, skewers, pins and so on. Watching can hardly be classed as learning. Games where some lunatic FM gets stuck into a GM can be fun to watch too. Whatever you do, it should be fun. Your post matches my view on most points except this one. I prefer to advise "Whatever you do, it should be challenging". If it is fun you want then play Pacman.

09-19-2010, 01:52 PM	#75 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by santa According to IM Jammo, openings aren't that important. The fact the Topalov claimed to "win" the openings in most of the games in his recent match with Anand while losing the match suggests Jammo might have a point. Look on the opening as a path to the kind of middle game that you find comfortable (or leads to position where you need practice!) If you do lose a game in the opening, send in the crash investigators! Learn why, and how to play it better next time. Writers regularly encourage beginners to study grandmaster games. The problem with that advice is that most beginners have no prospect of understanding the games, and the lessons beginners need to learn - pins, forks, skewers, just don't occur very frequently in grandmaster games, or they are so well hidden that beginners will not see them. I have been watching some games between players rated 1500-2000 or so on FICS, and they are good for beginners because players do fall victim to forks, skewers, pins and so on. Games where some lunatic FM gets stuck into a GM can be fun to watch too. Whatever you do, it should be fun. Santa, I love you for two reasons. Firstly, that avatar of your's just brightens my day whenever I see it. Secondly, you are usually spot on with what you write about in your posts! Two (2) cheers for Santa! __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

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