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**Jaydon** · 11-08-2011, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

There is no perpetual. What happens after Rxc1

queen

**Just2Good** · 11-08-2011, 01:57 PM

Ah. But as he was short on time, the tiger spirit in me would say, I don't mind being down material - I will play to win on time!

**Jaydon** · 11-08-2011, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Ah. But as he was short on time, the tiger spirit in me would say, I don't mind being down material - I will play to win on time!

I did consider that and depending on the time control and what the other guy had left on his clock then even losing the queen might be irrelevant but if there's any sort of increment it is a crushing position. Either way I think the knight would had to have been Amir's weapon of choice from that position, I see no other 'draw'.

**The Seeing** · 11-08-2011, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by Jaydon

I did consider that and depending on the time control and what the other guy had left on his clock then even losing the queen might be irrelevant but if there's any sort of increment it is a crushing position. Either way I think the knight would had to have been Amir's weapon of choice from that position, I see no other 'draw'.

I concur totally with this analysis .

Also j2g , knows all about the spirit of the tiger , make no mistake about that .

**Amir Karibasic** · 11-08-2011, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Ah. But as he was short on time, the tiger spirit in me would say, I don't mind being down material - I will play to win on time!

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Yes,
from the part that his time simply ran down to 50 sec after the "shocking" move
Nc1+

I'm sure that white is in the position to spend more time than black.
By loosing his queen he would not survive even 10 seconds on the board.

**Firegoat7** · 11-09-2011, 01:05 AM

Nb3 Qc4 Nc1 he needs a double check

**antichrist** · 11-09-2011, 07:03 PM

this thread was repeated on CC, can I bring the winning answer from over there?

**Amir Karibasic** · 11-09-2011, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by antichrist

this thread was repeated on CC, can I bring the winning answer from over there?

It's not about the winning answer.
It's about the fight to survive on the chess board.
The game was a blitz game and I worked hard to prepare for the assault against the king at any price.
I was happy with the draw considering that I was the organiser, arbiter and player otherwise I would go for a win in 60 sec.

As FG7 stated:

Nb3 Qc4 Nc1 he needs a double check:

..it worried my opponent and deplenished his time on the clock.

.anyway it's about fun in chess...

**Jaydon** · 11-10-2011, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic

It's not about the winning answer.
It's about the fight to survive on the chess board.
The game was a blitz game and I worked hard to prepare for the assault against the king at any price.
I was happy with the draw considering that I was the organiser, arbiter and player otherwise I would go for a win in 60 sec.

As FG7 stated:

Nb3 Qc4 Nc1 he needs a double check:

..it worried my opponent and deplenished his time on the clock.

.anyway it's about fun in chess...

Am I missing something here I thought you said before the move was Nc1+?

Also how does white not manage to win this on time after a pretty simple Qd5

**Firegoat7** · 11-10-2011, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by Jaydon

Am I missing something here I thought you said before the move was Nc1+?

Also how does white not manage to win this on time after a pretty simple Qd5

Hehe, Amir is playing for fun in the position Jaydon. Nc1 looks best, but Qc4 ensures the draw with ease, if Qd5 then Nc1-Nb3-Nc1

**Jaydon** · 11-10-2011, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

Hehe, Amir is playing for fun in the position Jaydon. Nc1 looks best, but Qc4 ensures the draw with ease, if Qd5 then Nc1-Nb3-Nc1

ahhh my bad, thanks for that

**Amir Karibasic** · 11-11-2011, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by Jaydon

Am I missing something here I thought you said before the move was Nc1+?

Also how does white not manage to win this on time after a pretty simple Qd5

Oleg Kitikov, who played as white is a good friend of mine and a fair player.

We both understood that Nc1 is a good reason for a draw. I repeated the moves Nc1+/Nb3+ without trying to activate the Queen. I tried to force him to take the Knight on c1 with the rook, than my Queen would play the role.

He was willing to repeat the moves Ka1/Ka2, so a draw was agreed

.

If Oleg would take the rook I would have 20 sec + his time to play.
Don't forget that he would be the ONE who must defend against the flying Queen.

**Jaydon** · 11-11-2011, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic

Oleg Kitikov, who played as white is a good friend of mine and a fair player.

We both understood that Nc1 is a good reason for a draw. I repeated the moves Nc1+/Nb3+ without trying to activate the Queen. I tried to force him to take the Knight on c1 with the rook, than my Queen would play the role.

He was willing to repeat the moves Ka1/Ka2, so a draw was agreed.

If Oleg would take the rook I would have 20 sec + his time to play.
Don't forget that he would be the ONE who must defend against the flying Queen.

Yeah I couldn't see white lasting long in that position, those light squares look like death

**Just2Good** · 11-11-2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic

Oleg Kitikov, who played as white is a good friend of mine and a fair player.

We both understood that Nc1 is a good reason for a draw. I repeated the moves Nc1+/Nb3+ without trying to activate the Queen. I tried to force him to take the Knight on c1 with the rook, than my Queen would play the role.

He was willing to repeat the moves Ka1/Ka2, so a draw was agreed.

If Oleg would take the rook I would have 20 sec + his time to play.
Don't forget that he would be the ONE who must defend against the flying Queen.

Oleg is a nice chap. Does he still attend the Brisbane Chess Club, or am I thinking about a different Oleg?

**Gold Coast** · 11-13-2011, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Oleg is a nice chap. Does he still attend the Brisbane Chess Club, or am I thinking about a different Oleg?

Yeah, this is our GC Oleg

11-08-2011, 01:36 PM	#16 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,101 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	Originally Posted by Just2Good There is no perpetual. What happens after Rxc1 queen

11-08-2011, 01:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Ah. But as he was short on time, the tiger spirit in me would say, I don't mind being down material - I will play to win on time! __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

11-08-2011, 05:38 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,101 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	Originally Posted by Just2Good Ah. But as he was short on time, the tiger spirit in me would say, I don't mind being down material - I will play to win on time! I did consider that and depending on the time control and what the other guy had left on his clock then even losing the queen might be irrelevant but if there's any sort of increment it is a crushing position. Either way I think the knight would had to have been Amir's weapon of choice from that position, I see no other 'draw'.

11-08-2011, 07:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
The Seeing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 263	Of The Seeing Originally Posted by Jaydon I did consider that and depending on the time control and what the other guy had left on his clock then even losing the queen might be irrelevant but if there's any sort of increment it is a crushing position. Either way I think the knight would had to have been Amir's weapon of choice from that position, I see no other 'draw'. I concur totally with this analysis . Also j2g , knows all about the spirit of the tiger , make no mistake about that .

11-08-2011, 10:44 PM	#20 (permalink)
Amir Karibasic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 194	Originally Posted by Just2Good Ah. But as he was short on time, the tiger spirit in me would say, I don't mind being down material - I will play to win on time! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yes, from the part that his time simply ran down to 50 sec after the "shocking" move Nc1+ I'm sure that white is in the position to spend more time than black. By loosing his queen he would not survive even 10 seconds on the board. __________________ . Visit my chess shop!

11-09-2011, 01:05 AM	#21 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 2,044 ICC Handle: guest	Nb3 Qc4 Nc1 he needs a double check __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

11-09-2011, 07:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	this thread was repeated on CC, can I bring the winning answer from over there?

11-09-2011, 11:47 PM	#23 (permalink)
Amir Karibasic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 194	Originally Posted by antichrist this thread was repeated on CC, can I bring the winning answer from over there? It's not about the winning answer. It's about the fight to survive on the chess board. The game was a blitz game and I worked hard to prepare for the assault against the king at any price. I was happy with the draw considering that I was the organiser, arbiter and player otherwise I would go for a win in 60 sec. As FG7 stated: Nb3 Qc4 Nc1 he needs a double check: ..it worried my opponent and deplenished his time on the clock. .anyway it's about fun in chess... __________________ . Visit my chess shop!

11-10-2011, 06:39 PM	#24 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,101 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic It's not about the winning answer. It's about the fight to survive on the chess board. The game was a blitz game and I worked hard to prepare for the assault against the king at any price. I was happy with the draw considering that I was the organiser, arbiter and player otherwise I would go for a win in 60 sec. As FG7 stated: Nb3 Qc4 Nc1 he needs a double check: ..it worried my opponent and deplenished his time on the clock. .anyway it's about fun in chess... Am I missing something here I thought you said before the move was Nc1+? Also how does white not manage to win this on time after a pretty simple Qd5

11-10-2011, 09:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 2,044 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by Jaydon Am I missing something here I thought you said before the move was Nc1+? Also how does white not manage to win this on time after a pretty simple Qd5 Hehe, Amir is playing for fun in the position Jaydon. Nc1 looks best, but Qc4 ensures the draw with ease, if Qd5 then Nc1-Nb3-Nc1 __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

11-10-2011, 09:59 PM	#26 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,101 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 Hehe, Amir is playing for fun in the position Jaydon. Nc1 looks best, but Qc4 ensures the draw with ease, if Qd5 then Nc1-Nb3-Nc1 ahhh my bad, thanks for that

11-11-2011, 08:13 AM	#27 (permalink)
Amir Karibasic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 194	Originally Posted by Jaydon Am I missing something here I thought you said before the move was Nc1+? Also how does white not manage to win this on time after a pretty simple Qd5 Oleg Kitikov, who played as white is a good friend of mine and a fair player. We both understood that Nc1 is a good reason for a draw. I repeated the moves Nc1+/Nb3+ without trying to activate the Queen. I tried to force him to take the Knight on c1 with the rook, than my Queen would play the role. He was willing to repeat the moves Ka1/Ka2, so a draw was agreed. If Oleg would take the rook I would have 20 sec + his time to play. Don't forget that he would be the ONE who must defend against the flying Queen. __________________ . Visit my chess shop!

11-11-2011, 11:05 AM	#28 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,101 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic Oleg Kitikov, who played as white is a good friend of mine and a fair player. We both understood that Nc1 is a good reason for a draw. I repeated the moves Nc1+/Nb3+ without trying to activate the Queen. I tried to force him to take the Knight on c1 with the rook, than my Queen would play the role. He was willing to repeat the moves Ka1/Ka2, so a draw was agreed. If Oleg would take the rook I would have 20 sec + his time to play. Don't forget that he would be the ONE who must defend against the flying Queen. Yeah I couldn't see white lasting long in that position, those light squares look like death

11-11-2011, 02:06 PM	#29 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Amir Karibasic Oleg Kitikov, who played as white is a good friend of mine and a fair player. We both understood that Nc1 is a good reason for a draw. I repeated the moves Nc1+/Nb3+ without trying to activate the Queen. I tried to force him to take the Knight on c1 with the rook, than my Queen would play the role. He was willing to repeat the moves Ka1/Ka2, so a draw was agreed. If Oleg would take the rook I would have 20 sec + his time to play. Don't forget that he would be the ONE who must defend against the flying Queen. Oleg is a nice chap. Does he still attend the Brisbane Chess Club, or am I thinking about a different Oleg? __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

11-13-2011, 05:26 PM	#30 (permalink)
Gold Coast Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: GOLD COAST Posts: 168	Originally Posted by Just2Good Oleg is a nice chap. Does he still attend the Brisbane Chess Club, or am I thinking about a different Oleg? Yeah, this is our GC Oleg __________________ . . Visit my: Chesshop

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