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04-14-2011, 02:30 AM
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Position analysis:
[FEN "r5k1/ppqbppb1/3p1np1/4P3/2r3P1/1NN1BP2/PPPQ4/1K1R3R b - - 0 17"]
Let's hope this works, who is winning this position, and what are some candidate moves for black, its black to move. I believe black is lost in this position. This was taken from Lekkas-Beaumont.
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04-14-2011, 03:46 AM
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Here's the analysis we came up with. Black is indeed lost.
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04-14-2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid
Isn't black forced to play pawn takes pawn?
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04-14-2011, 12:18 PM
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You're losing a piece after g5.
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04-14-2011, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid
No worries. Just play Ne8 then and all Black's problemo's disappear!
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04-14-2011, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Just2Good
Except all his pieces are passive and after Nd5 and Qh2 he's getting mated >_>
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04-15-2011, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid
Black is not getting mated after that line, because Qh2 doesn't really threaten mate due to the bishop on g7.
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04-15-2011, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Just2Good
My bad. Qh2 is still winning But Bg5 makes it much more clear.
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04-15-2011, 08:40 PM
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[FEN "r5k1/ppqbppb1/3p1np1/4P3/2r3P1/1NN1BP2/PPPQ4/1K1R3R b - - 0 17"]
So you are saying Ne8, Bg5, BxP, BxP, and then maybe BxN and Black is fine.
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04-15-2011, 09:24 PM
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No i'm saying Ne8 Nd5 Qd8 Bg5 and you're lost lol
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04-15-2011, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid
Fritz says the position is equal.
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04-16-2011, 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Just2Good
Rybka says +6 after your Ne8 and +4 from the starting position
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Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid
Okay, I now concur that white is winning
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