Fischer Random Game #1, and now #2. - OzChess

**Just2Good** · 07-04-2010, 08:41 PM

MOZ moves 1. e4

I propose we answer with a knight development move, perhaps 1...Nb6

Also, a question - is castling not allowed in Fischer Random?

**Just2Good** · 07-05-2010, 01:14 PM

The pgn file in the above post has been rectified.

**Iconoclast** · 07-05-2010, 04:00 PM

OPEN THE MISSILE TUBES

g5!!

**MOZ** · 07-05-2010, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

OPEN THE MISSILE TUBES

g5!!

Matt

I think you owe it to your viewing public to post why your chosen first move matches your advice previously given re F_R opening principles

"I think the initial position requires some respect in planning. In FR, middle game starts at move 1. So planning must start at move 1.

Note that in normal chess, the f2 and f7 squares were important squares in the historical development of current openings. Therefore, I would postulate that a player would do better if he were the first to identify the softest spot in the FR position and plan to hammer it."

Can you nominate the equivalence of f2 and f7 in this particular F_R position.

**Just2Good** · 07-05-2010, 07:22 PM

[Event "Fischer Random Game"]
[Site "OzChess"]
[Date "2010.07.04"]
[Round "-"]
[White "MOZ"]
[Black "Matt and friends"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "nrqknrbb/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/NRQKNRBB w - - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

{White to move
}
1. e4 g5
*

**Just2Good** · 07-05-2010, 07:26 PM

Okay MOZ, this should work.

As highlighted above, simply change the colour as required, and add the moves. I recommend this be done on Notepad, remembering to save as a pgn file and not a text file.

**MOZ** · 07-05-2010, 08:12 PM

Purdy 'Guide to Good Chess' p46
The main aim is to get all minor pieces into play
Choice lies between Nb3 and the other knight (currently sitting on e1).

Judge white is unlikely to be pained by blocking the b-pawn.
Therefore MOZ* moves
2. Nb3

**Iconoclast** · 07-05-2010, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Matt

I think you owe it to your viewing public to post why your chosen first move matches your advice previously given re F_R opening principles

"I think the initial position requires some respect in planning. In FR, middle game starts at move 1. So planning must start at move 1.

Note that in normal chess, the f2 and f7 squares were important squares in the historical development of current openings. Therefore, I would postulate that a player would do better if he were the first to identify the softest spot in the FR position and plan to hammer it."

Can you nominate the equivalence of f2 and f7 in this particular F_R position.

OK. You are right.

g5 reveals an instant unopposed fiancetto-like bishop
It looks at the b2 (in front of a short castled king)
There is a black rook also on the g file

If white castles long, the g5 pawn is ready go to g4 and prepare to trap both white bishops unless white is prepared to lose his pawn wall protection for his king.

**Iconoclast** · 07-05-2010, 10:19 PM

2. ... f5

Threatens to either
1. have strafing bishops right across the planet or
2. BxN creates an awkward-to-hold-on-to backward b pawn

If exf then R takes back
I am thinking black R on a5 and black Q on a6

Let's create lines and attacks ASAP - after all in doing so we will also be developing.

My only concern is that our knights look difficult to employ but so are white's.

**MOZ** · 07-06-2010, 08:07 PM

Introducing a new exposition of a principle.

It is a good idea to play a 'smite' move'.

Thus my move is 3. d3 and observe the Q threatens the pawn on g5.

**Iconoclast** · 07-07-2010, 12:32 AM

This game has gone all tactical

and so fast too. I guess that without ANY opening theory, we can only apply opening principles while being tactically careful.

So, I will play 3. ... fxe

This gives me 2 central pawns to your 1 (principles)
And I will slap your Q with Bf6 to gain a tempo (tactics)

**MOZ** · 07-07-2010, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

This game has gone all tactical and so fast too. I guess that without ANY opening theory, we can only apply opening principles while being tactically careful.

So, I will play 3. ... fxe

This gives me 2 central pawns to your 1 (principles)
And I will slap your Q with Bf6 to gain a tempo (tactics)

White plays 4. Qg5
and advises you to think carefully about Bf6.

**Iconoclast** · 07-07-2010, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

and advises you to think carefully about Bf6.

I call your bluff.

Bf6

I aim to own all the desirable real estate. Squatters will be evicted - even if I have to burn down the building, the street, the whole bloody town!

**Iconoclast** · 07-07-2010, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

[Event "Fischer Random Game"]
[Site "OzChess"]
[Date "2010.07.04"]
[Round "-"]
[White "MOZ"]
[Black "Matt and friends"]
[Result "*"]
[FEN "nrqknrbb/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/NRQKNRBB w - - 0 1"]
[SetUp "1"]

{White to move
}
1. e4 g5
*

This is a TEST of updating the board position.

**MOZ** · 07-07-2010, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

I call your bluff.

Bf6

I aim to own all the desirable real estate. Squatters will be evicted - even if I have to burn down the building, the street, the whole bloody town!

Hmmm...beginners mistake...bring out the Queen early and get kicked around.

5. Qh6

07-05-2010, 01:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	The pgn file in the above post has been rectified. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

07-05-2010, 04:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	OPEN THE MISSILE TUBES g5!! __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

07-05-2010, 04:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	With annotations. Originally Posted by Iconoclast OPEN THE MISSILE TUBES g5!! Matt I think you owe it to your viewing public to post why your chosen first move matches your advice previously given re F_R opening principles "I think the initial position requires some respect in planning. In FR, middle game starts at move 1. So planning must start at move 1. Note that in normal chess, the f2 and f7 squares were important squares in the historical development of current openings. Therefore, I would postulate that a player would do better if he were the first to identify the softest spot in the FR position and plan to hammer it." Can you nominate the equivalence of f2 and f7 in this particular F_R position. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

07-05-2010, 07:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Okay MOZ, this should work. As highlighted above, simply change the colour as required, and add the moves. I recommend this be done on Notepad, remembering to save as a pgn file and not a text file. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

07-05-2010, 08:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	A principled reply Purdy 'Guide to Good Chess' p46 The main aim is to get all minor pieces into play Choice lies between Nb3 and the other knight (currently sitting on e1). Judge white is unlikely to be pained by blocking the b-pawn. Therefore MOZ* moves 2. Nb3 __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

07-05-2010, 10:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by MOZ Matt I think you owe it to your viewing public to post why your chosen first move matches your advice previously given re F_R opening principles "I think the initial position requires some respect in planning. In FR, middle game starts at move 1. So planning must start at move 1. Note that in normal chess, the f2 and f7 squares were important squares in the historical development of current openings. Therefore, I would postulate that a player would do better if he were the first to identify the softest spot in the FR position and plan to hammer it." Can you nominate the equivalence of f2 and f7 in this particular F_R position. OK. You are right. g5 reveals an instant unopposed fiancetto-like bishop It looks at the b2 (in front of a short castled king) There is a black rook also on the g file If white castles long, the g5 pawn is ready go to g4 and prepare to trap both white bishops unless white is prepared to lose his pawn wall protection for his king. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

07-05-2010, 10:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	2. ... f5 Threatens to either 1. have strafing bishops right across the planet or 2. BxN creates an awkward-to-hold-on-to backward b pawn If exf then R takes back I am thinking black R on a5 and black Q on a6 Let's create lines and attacks ASAP - after all in doing so we will also be developing. My only concern is that our knights look difficult to employ but so are white's. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

07-06-2010, 08:07 PM	#10 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	The principle I use: Play a 'smite' move. Introducing a new exposition of a principle. It is a good idea to play a 'smite' move'. Thus my move is 3. d3 and observe the Q threatens the pawn on g5. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

07-07-2010, 12:32 AM	#11 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	This game has gone all tactical and so fast too. I guess that without ANY opening theory, we can only apply opening principles while being tactically careful. So, I will play 3. ... fxe This gives me 2 central pawns to your 1 (principles) And I will slap your Q with Bf6 to gain a tempo (tactics) __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

07-07-2010, 11:42 AM	#12 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Now playing, near you... Originally Posted by Iconoclast This game has gone all tactical and so fast too. I guess that without ANY opening theory, we can only apply opening principles while being tactically careful. So, I will play 3. ... fxe This gives me 2 central pawns to your 1 (principles) And I will slap your Q with Bf6 to gain a tempo (tactics) White plays 4. Qg5 and advises you to think carefully about Bf6. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

07-07-2010, 12:07 PM	#13 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by MOZ and advises you to think carefully about Bf6. I call your bluff. Bf6 I aim to own all the desirable real estate. Squatters will be evicted - even if I have to burn down the building, the street, the whole bloody town! __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

07-07-2010, 12:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by Just2Good [Event "Fischer Random Game"] [Site "OzChess"] [Date "2010.07.04"] [Round "-"] [White "MOZ"] [Black "Matt and friends"] [Result ""] [FEN "nrqknrbb/pppppppp/8/8/8/8/PPPPPPPP/NRQKNRBB w - - 0 1"] [SetUp "1"] {White to move } 1. e4 g5 This is a TEST of updating the board position. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

07-07-2010, 12:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Iconoclast I call your bluff. Bf6 I aim to own all the desirable real estate. Squatters will be evicted - even if I have to burn down the building, the street, the whole bloody town! Hmmm...beginners mistake...bring out the Queen early and get kicked around. 5. Qh6 __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

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