Member Comments on Moderation

[Arrogant-One]

I do hope the other regulars who are not ex-trolls here realise you will talk about them that way should they go.

People come and go. Dion for instance has largely left chess and chess forum posting, but he's still a great guy to hang out with, and his opinion of people tend to be spot on accurate. So your theory that everyone who leaves gets lambasted is nonsense.

Why do you waste so much time on claims that everyone can easily see are false?

Are you denying that Barry Cox called Dr Safarti a racist? Must I refresh your memory on what specifically he said. Perhaps your opinion of Barry would change if you actually saw what he wrote.

Barry's last post here following numerous requests for account suspension (clearly based around your redirection attack) was on 18 April 2008 ...

The point being?

... and the "racist" thing on chesschat didn't start until May.

Aha! So you do admit the racist remark was made.

He may have said that he was not aware of any evidence at the time, but that doesn't prove that no such evidence exists, nor does it prove that my suspicions were unfounded.

If there was any evidence you would have raised it publicly. As such, that means all you have is unfounded suspicions.

It would really be a terrible shame if it wasn't you;

Why is that? In any event, your query further shows that there is no evidence linking me to the fiasco, or you would not have said "if".

I actually have quite an interest in motorsport ...

Strange indeed that someone who does not even have a drivers license (yourself) would be interested in motor sports.

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

People come and go. Dion for instance has largely left chess and chess forum posting, but he's still a great guy to hang out with, and his opinion of people tend to be spot on accurate. So your theory that everyone who leaves gets lambasted is nonsense.

Dion isn't a present regular so wasn't included in my comment. But in any case, he is one of your mates and wasn't averse to the odd spot of trolling in the bad old days - which I believe he's left behind him.

Concerning the rest, you would do yourself a big favour if you actually read the post you are replying to, at least a few lines at a time, before jumping in with phrase-by-phrase rebuttals. More than once you ask me to explain a point that is clearly explained within a few lines of where you make such a request.

Are you denying that Barry Cox called Dr Safarti a racist?

What I am (correctly) denying is that that exchange had anything to do with Barry's departure from this site. It occurred after he left.

If there was any evidence you would have raised it publicly.

Wrong; the fact is I don't know whether IP evidence connects you to the Ford Forum attacks or not because I haven't bothered to explicitly ask them for it.

As such, that means all you have is unfounded suspicions.

Wrong again, because IP evidence is not the only possible foundation for such suspicions.

Why is that? In any event, your query further shows that there is no evidence linking me to the fiasco, or you would not have said "if".

Again wrong, for the reason already mentioned.

Strange indeed that someone who does not even have a drivers license (yourself) would be interested in motor sports.

Oooh, do you think you're the first person to ever make that hackneyed little observation? Enjoying watching motor sport without being a driver is no stranger than enjoying listening to music without being able to play an instrument, which is certainly common enough.

[Arrogant-One]

Originally Posted by Ophiuchus

Dion isn't a present regular so wasn't included in my comment.

Obviously he wasn't included in your comment because I brought him up as an example to refute your misguided allegation that everyone who leaves OzChess gets insulted. That is not at all true (as you well know). I am glad to see you now acknowledge that.

But in any case, he is one of your mates and wasn't averse to the odd spot of trolling in the bad old days - which I believe he's left behind him.

Untrue! He never trolled anyone, although he regularly got trolled at CC because the moderation at that site is piss poor.

Oooh, do you think you're the first person to ever make that hackneyed little observation?

Please don't take your frustration about not having a drivers license out on me!

Maybe when the day comes where you 'inherit' bucket loads of money, instead of suing everyone for perceived non-existent slights about yourself, perhaps instead you should spend some of that money on lessons from an accredited driving school.

I went to Young Drivers of Canada myself when I was still in high school and learning how to drive. Believe me, what I learned there saved my life at least 5 times.

Enjoying watching motor sport without being a driver is no stranger than enjoying listening to music without being able to play an instrument, which is certainly common enough.

That is beside the point! There is no excuse for someone approaching 40 years old to not have a drivers license. That is strange, despite your rose coloured spin that it is not.

Best Regards,

AO

ps- Incidentally, how many times did you fail the driving test (if indeed you ever had the courage to take it)?

[Iconoclast]

No driver's licence at 40 ?!?!?!?

Prolly never gone all the way either - solo does not count.

[Jaydon]

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

No driver's licence at 40 ?!?!?!?

Prolly never gone all the way either - solo does not count.

LOL!!!

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

No driver's licence at 40 ?!?!?!?

Prolly never gone all the way either - solo does not count.

You can't even go all the way with your uncivil lame schoolboy insults. I shan't be on what you doubtless believe to be the wrong side of 40 til 2012.

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

[font="Georgia"]Obviously he wasn't included in your comment because I brought him up as an example to refute your misguided allegation that everyone who leaves OzChess gets insulted.

That's not obvious at all, however much you wish it was.

I am glad to see you now acknowledge that.

This is called putting words in my mouth (and incorrect ones at that). Please ban yourself before big bad Phil (another one who needs to comfort himself by suggesting my age is closer to his than it is) finds this disgrace and calls for your head on a stick.

Untrue! He never trolled anyone, although he regularly got trolled at CC because the moderation at that site is piss poor.

No sane person is going to take your word for it unless they're extremely gullible. Anyone who wants can check the old threads for themselves.

Please don't take your frustration about not having a drivers license out on me!

Actually I'm just pointing out how feeble your little insight was - a point confirmed by you failing to challenge the point and instead trying more lame psychobabble.

Maybe when the day comes where you 'inherit' bucket loads of money, instead of suing everyone for perceived non-existent slights about yourself, perhaps instead you should spend some of that money on lessons from an accredited driving school.

*yawn* Cost isn't really the issue; someone even once offered to pay me to learn but I was much too busy at the time.

Believe me,

I generally don't but I'll make an exception just this once ...

what I learned there saved my life at least 5 times.

Some might be disappointed by this, but I couldn't possibly comment.

That is beside the point! There is no excuse for someone approaching 40 years old to not have a drivers license.

That is strange, despite your rose coloured spin that it is not.

Well, if you want to go into a conformist rant about that being "strange" then just do that and don't bother with failed hack arguments regarding my interest in motorsport. In any case, it's certainly not as strange as calling yourself "Arrogant-One" or signing up 50+ hydras on chesschat!

ps- Incidentally, how many times did you fail the driving test

None; I have never even bothered to get L-plates.

[Iconoclast]

Originally Posted by Ophiuchus

You can't even go all the way with your uncivil lame schoolboy insults.

If I were to go all the way insulting a lame schoolboy, then I would be being uncivil. So instead, I will amuse myself by slapping your face with your own ambiguous syntax.

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

If I were to go all the way insulting a lame schoolboy, then I would be being uncivil. So instead, I will amuse myself by slapping your face with your own ambiguous syntax.

Ineffectively so, since the ambiguity doesn't exist. An insult towards (thing X) is not a "(thing X) insult"; it's much more likely to be an "anti-(thing X) insult".

And as for amusement, solo does not count, so how about you amuse us all by explaining why you and Phil Donnelly, both somewhat older than me, have both exaggerated my age in your trolling?

Not that being 40 in four years concerns me in the slightest, and nor does any other such irrelevant base-ten "milestone".

[Arrogant-One]

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

No driver's licence at 40 ?!?!?!?

Prolly never gone all the way either - solo does not count.

Best Regards,

AO

ps- Maybe if Kevin addressed that foot odour problem Phil mentioned, he'd improve his chances somewhat

[Arrogant-One]

You can't even go all the way with your uncivil lame schoolboy insults. I shan't [sic] be on what you doubtless believe to be the wrong side of 40 til 2012.

I note you failed to address his other observation.

This is called putting words in my mouth (and incorrect ones at that). Please ban yourself before big bad Phil (another one who needs to comfort himself by suggesting my age is closer to his than it is) finds this disgrace and calls for your head on a stick.

If Phil wants me to ban myself for a period, I will.

No sane person is going to take your word for it unless they're extremely gullible. Anyone who wants can check the old threads for themselves.

In other words you have no proof to back yourself up, but are still unwilling to concede the point nevertheless.

Cost isn't really the issue; someone even once offered to pay me to learn but I was much too busy at the time.

From someone who had admitted accepting free rides to free meals in the past (presumably due to financial considerations), the rejection of such an offer seems most perplexing.

In any case, it's certainly not as strange as calling yourself "Arrogant-One" or signing up 50+ hydras on chesschat!

Actually, it was Dion who first called me Arrogant-One on CC, but I liked the moniker - so I kept it. And according to your own psychobabble in the past, hyrda's are not prohibitted on CC - unless of course the name of your hydra is Adam and the hydra is used to ask uncomfortable questions.

Best Regards,

AO

[Iconoclast]

Originally Posted by Ophiuchus

Ineffectively so, since the ambiguity doesn't exist. An insult towards (thing X) is not a "(thing X) insult"; it's much more likely to be an "anti-(thing X) insult".

What kind of a personality type dissects a parsing joke made at their expense?

... how about you amuse us all by explaining why you and Phil Donnelly, both somewhat older than me, have both exaggerated my age ...

*I* did not exaggerate, *I* took previous statements on face value.

Not that being 40 in four years concerns me in the slightest, and nor does any other such irrelevant base-ten "milestone".

You are 180 degrees out of step with cultural norms on the significance or otherwise of multiples of ten. What kind of personality type gets it so wrong?

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

What kind of a personality type dissects a parsing joke made at their expense?

Actually your joke was entirely at your own expense, because it failed.

So what kind of personality type makes a "parsing joke" in a clumsy failed attempt at the same grammar-pedantry it claims to oppose, without even getting the "joke" right?

*I* did not exaggerate, *I* took previous statements on face value.

Which previous statements concerning my age? Phil Donnelly's? If so, that'll learn you and you won't do that again in a hurry ... except that it's you, you never learn, so you probably will!

You are 180 degrees out of step with cultural norms on the significance or otherwise of multiples of ten. What kind of personality type gets it so wrong?

Not wrong at all, but since you ask, an at least vaguely independent-minded one that doesn't take its cues from pop trash doom and gloom about it being all downhill after 40. (Not that such cliches are anywhere near as omnipresent as you might think or pretend in any case.)

Of course, for those fool enough to believe it's all downhill after 40, it soon becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Originally Posted by Arrogant-One

[font="Georgia"]I note you failed to address his other observation.

Because it wasn't one and I'd need to regress at least thirty-three years to get down to its uncivil level. At this rate in another year or so this place will be as putrid as UCJ ... that is, if this place still exists.

If Phil wants me to ban myself for a period, I will.

More evidence of your servile attitude where he is concerned!

In other words you have no proof to back yourself up, but are still unwilling to concede the point nevertheless.

The other words are yours and they're your usual trolling nonsense. You well know that Dion even trolled me on this board in its early days (but more recently deleted his trolling when I advised him of my view of it. Shame you can't reach that level of self-reflection ).

From someone who had admitted accepting free rides to free meals in the past

*yawn* Yet again you regurgitate an irrelevant misrepresentation for the sake of trolling.

(presumably due to financial considerations), the rejection of such an offer seems most perplexing.

Non sequitur. But that's no surprise, since you are trolling.

Actually, it was Dion who first called me Arrogant-One on CC,

To my astonishment this is actually almost correct (he called you "the arrogant one" just before you signed up.)

And according to your own psychobabble in the past, hyrda's are not prohibitted on CC

They are if you are banned, or if they misrepresent the nature of their operator. Oh, and do try learning what the word "psychobabble" actually means before you make a fool of yourself when trying to use it again.

- unless of course the name of your hydra is Adam and the hydra is used to ask uncomfortable questions.

The only uncomfortable thing about "Adam"'s questions was their illiteracy level.

[Arrogant-One]

Originally Posted by Ophiuchus

At this rate in another year or so this place will be as putrid as UCJ ... that is, if this place still exists.

Why wouldn't this place exist in a year or so Kevin? Chess Chat is still living long after its use by date. The bills have been paid up until next July and the costs of keeping OzChess up and running past then will be considerably less than they have been to date due to the ownership of a new VBulletin license.

More evidence of your servile attitude where he is concerned!

I regard Phil as an equal.

Non sequitur. But that's no surprise, since you are trolling.

Its not a non sequitur at all. It does logically follow that the reason you needed to bludge free lifts to free meals (as you have admitted doing in the past) is because of financial limitations you had at the time.

To my astonishment this is actually almost correct (he called you "the arrogant one" just before you signed up.)

Much of what I say is correct, hopefully you will remember that.

The only uncomfortable thing about "Adam"'s questions was their illiteracy level.

Is poor literacy a bannable offence at CC? The fact is Adam was a suspected hydra of a user in good standing, something you say is allowed at CC, and yet when he asked a few uncomfortable questions you decided to ban Adam despite no CC rules having been broken.

That means your claim is completely false.

Best Regards,

AO

[Iconoclast]

Originally Posted by Ophiuchus

So what kind of personality type makes a "parsing joke" in a clumsy failed attempt at the same grammar-pedantry it claims to oppose, without even getting the "joke" right?

The NON-autistic one.

Which previous statements concerning my age? Phil Donnelly's? If so, that'll learn you and you won't do that again in a hurry ... except that it's you, you never learn, so you probably will!

Pfft. Your feigned poor grammah to mix it with the big boy is pathetic, if not plain sychophantic.

... vaguely independent-minded one that doesn't take its cues from pop trash doom and gloom about it being all downhill after 40.

Nor do I cry doom and gloom. But I am not so socially disconnected that I would play the role of the resident wet blanket to poo-poo the 40 years mile-stone.

Of course, for those fool enough to believe it's all downhill after 40, it soon becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

But it *mostly* downhill from 30 mentally and physically.