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Old 07-30-2008, 12:32 AM   #1 (permalink) (View Moderation Comments)
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i note the new thread for public complaints at Open Moderation Policy on OzChess

i note with disapproval the publication of an email address in that thread
and request that the email address be edited out

publishing someone's email address on an open forum solely on account of them filing a moderation complaint is gross incompetence
a beginner's blunder in forum administration/moderation
often a severe breach of privacy
shouldn't happen

fortunately i anticipated this sort of thing would happen
and hence deliberately used a temporary throwaway account to sign up lotlizard
one that happens to be a non-private one
so no actual damage is done

but i hope that firegoat will learn not to post email addresses publicly in future

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Old 07-30-2008, 03:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by lotlizard View Post
i note the new thread for public complaints at Open Moderation Policy on OzChess
It is fantastic isn't it. Now Ozchess members get to see how a certain type of personality keeps trying to manipulate other people.


Originally Posted by lotlizard View Post
i note with disapproval the publication of an email address in that thread
and request that the email address be edited out
I am not concerned with your 'disapproval'. I deem the publishing of your misleading email address on Ozchess as important public information. It is a bogus email address, set up to deliberately mislead, as such it reflects on your personality. Maybe you were expecting a reply from my legitimate email address? Hardly an honest way to solicit information!
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publishing someone's email address on an open forum solely on account of them filing a moderation complaint is gross incompetence
a beginner's blunder in forum administration/moderation
often a severe breach of privacy
shouldn't happen
Correction. I published "a joke hydra's" 'fake email address' You admit all this here ....Kevin Bonham's Deceptive Shell Game

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fortunately i anticipated this sort of thing would happen
and hence deliberately used a temporary throwaway account to sign up lotlizard
one that happens to be a non-private one
so no actual damage is done
A Fake email for a fake hydra. This was all obvious to me before the publication of the address so stop your bleating. You wanted this to happen and you got what you wanted.

You like to play games,misinform,control and manipulate people. I really don't think that Ozchess needs people like you posting here. I will be asking Alex to ban you permanently.

Originally Posted by lotlizard View Post
but i hope that firegoat will learn not to post email addresses publicly in future
Like I said....I don't apologise for making a fake hydra email address public knowledge. I consider it a service to society. People can become more informed about your dubious personal ethics.


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Old 07-30-2008, 11:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7 View Post
I will be asking Alex to ban you permanently.

cheers Fg7
I think there are times in life when it becomes obvious what needs to be done.

As such, I am going to leave Kevin's fate entirely in Phild707's hands. If Phil thinks it is best to ban Kevin from OzChess permanently, or for a lesser period, I will immediately implement his decision.

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Old 07-30-2008, 12:51 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Arrogant-One View Post
I think there are times in life when it becomes obvious what needs to be done.

As such, I am going to leave Kevin's fate entirely in Phild707's hands. If Phil thinks it is best to ban Kevin from OzChess permanently, or for a lesser period, I will immediately implement his decision.

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Thank you for this magnaimous gesture Alex.
While it is clear that there is some doubt as to whether Kevin's motives in posting on this board are not to some degree mischievous to say the least, I stop short of requesting that he be permanently banned from the site however...

I refer him and yourself to my post 51 (General chess discussion> Civil War thread) where i wrote:
"I disagree very strongly with posters rephrasing or reworking other people's comment as this is essentially putting words in a person's mouth (that they did not say).

Will you please give an undertaking that you will take more care not to rehash other peoples comment?
I feel that this is an important obstacle to our moving forward towards civilised discussion."


and to my earlier post 32 in the same thread were i had also asked for such an undertaking.
Also in this post the two instances of unaccetpable tactics by Kevin in this regard were cited.

I regret to say that no such undertaking has been received hence I must request that Kevin, (and all his known/admitted aliases), be banned from posting on the OZChess forum forthwith for a period of 2 days.

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Old 07-30-2008, 02:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I regret to advise that Kevin Bonham has been given a 48 hour time out for putting words into other peoples mouths and for not accepting the cordial undertaking offered to him by another member to desist in doing so in the future.

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Old 07-30-2008, 03:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Is this Survivor, Big Brother, or the Biggest Loser(s)?
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:56 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Is this Survivor, Big Brother, or the Biggest Loser(s)?
I fear it is becoming "Lord of the Flies."
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Old 07-30-2008, 10:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I fear it is becoming "Lord of the Flies."
So many applicable quotes:

"Maybe there is a beast....maybe it's only us."

"Kill the pig! Cut his throat! Kill the pig! Bash him in!"

"after all we aren't savages really..."

"We've got to have rules and obey them. After all, we're not savages. We're English, and the English are best at everything."

or...

"The only trouble was that he would never be a very good chess player."
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:44 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7 View Post
It is fantastic isn't it. Now Ozchess members get to see how a certain type of personality keeps trying to manipulate other people.



I am not concerned with your 'disapproval'. I deem the publishing of your misleading email address on Ozchess as important public information. It is a bogus email address, set up to deliberately mislead, as such it reflects on your personality. Maybe you were expecting a reply from my legitimate email address? Hardly an honest way to solicit information!

Correction. I published "a joke hydra's" 'fake email address' You admit all this here ....OzChess - Australia's Chess Forum - View Single Post - Kevin Bonham's Deceptive Shell Game


A Fake email for a fake hydra. This was all obvious to me before the publication of the address so stop your bleating. You wanted this to happen and you got what you wanted.

You like to play games,misinform,control and manipulate people. I really don't think that Ozchess needs people like you posting here. I will be asking Alex to ban you permanently.


Like I said....I don't apologise for making a fake hydra email address public knowledge. I consider it a service to society. People can become more informed about your dubious personal ethics.


cheers Fg7
In following the link quoted in the post I was led to "I was hoping that this name would arouse Iconoclast's lowbrow curiosity and stir him into his bad old vulgar ways".
This admission by lotlizard, now revealed as a member of the ACF panel that voted to suspend Iconoclast from chess for vulgarity, is an admission of trolling and a revelation of deliberate provocation of an individual already on a blacklist.
Fg7's reference to dubious personal ethics is not firm enough. A better word would have been abysmal personal ethics.
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Old 12-21-2008, 01:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Zeitgeist View Post
In following the link quoted in the post I was led to "I was hoping that this name would arouse Iconoclast's lowbrow curiosity and stir him into his bad old vulgar ways".
This admission by lotlizard, now revealed as a member of the ACF panel that voted to suspend Iconoclast from chess for vulgarity, is an admission of trolling and a revelation of deliberate provocation of an individual already on a blacklist.
Fg7's reference to dubious personal ethics is not firm enough. A better word would have been abysmal personal ethics.
I am sure there is plenty of blame to go around for everyone. But I do agree that the battles have to stop somewhere, and they won't stop if one person is trying to provoke another.
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I am sure there is plenty of blame to go around for everyone. But I do agree that the battles have to stop somewhere, and they won't stop if one person is trying to provoke another.
Obviously the same conclusion reached by the forum moderator when he took action against the trolling action. And it would judged be a successful action in retrospect.
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