Pablito15

Very interesting move the Goat came up with- 19. g4!! - which lead to about an hour of analysis which got more and more incredible as it went on (from my game V Kerry last week).

Here's the convo from end to beginning and one crazy possibility, i'll try to upload some PGN's sunday:


[Event "?"]
[Site "?"]
[SetUp "1"]
[FEN "rnb1r1k1/1qB2pb1/2p1p1p1/pp4Np/5Q2/1B5P/PPP2PP1/3RK2R b K - 0 18"]
[PlyCount "16"]

18... f5 19. g4 c5 20. gxf5 Qxh1+ 21. Ke2 Qc6 22. f6 Bf8 23. f7+ Kh8 24. Be5+
Bg7 25. f8=Q+ Rxf8 26. Qxf8# 1-0





if Rxf7 gxf6+ Kh8?! then Rd8+ Bf8 Be5++
06-09-2011 11:20 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
back in a while

Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
hehe- damnit- a friend is calling from England
06-09-2011 11:20 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
haha look at this fxg6 rf8 Qf7!!
06-09-2011 11:18 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Qxf6, Qxc7, Qxg6+, Qg7 and Queen takes rook +
06-09-2011 11:18 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Qxf6 wins with your first idea
06-09-2011 11:18 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
but I thought fxg6 was good
06-09-2011 11:17 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
i dismissed f6 because of Bxf6
06-09-2011 11:17 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
but looks like white is winning
06-09-2011 11:17 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
g4, c5, gxf5, Qxh1+, Ke2, Qc6, f6!!, Bf8
06-09-2011 11:17 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
its ridiculously sharp
06-09-2011 11:17 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
yeah i looked at Qc6 fxg6 Bf6 Be5

Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
ha ha- look at this line
06-09-2011 11:15 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
amazing- it's winning for white
06-09-2011 11:15 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
hard to find over the board
06-09-2011 11:15 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
yes!!!!!
06-09-2011 11:15 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
problem with the h-file is it's slow to use that open file
06-09-2011 11:15 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
unbelievable
06-09-2011 11:15 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
19.g4 c5 20.gxf5 Qxh1 Ke2 what an idea
06-09-2011 11:14 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
wow
06-09-2011 11:14 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
true- it does lose a key tempo
06-09-2011 11:13 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
19.g4 c5 20. Rg1 c4 21.gxh5 looks good

Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
g4, c5, gxf5!!!!!!!! +=
06-09-2011 11:13 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
yes
06-09-2011 11:13 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
wat Qxh1
06-09-2011 11:12 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
gxf5 loses a critical tempo
06-09-2011 11:12 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
yeah gxh5 only try
06-09-2011 11:11 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Qxh1+ is losing
06-09-2011 11:11 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
06-09-2011 11:11 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
HA HA HA
06-09-2011 11:11 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
no- gxf5=
06-09-2011 11:11 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
0.00
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
gxh5 =
06-09-2011 11:11 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Houdini says the best line is to let black play Qxh1+
06-09-2011 11:10 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
heh- funny
06-09-2011 11:09 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
dang
06-09-2011 11:09 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
yeah this is - 4
06-09-2011 11:09 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
hehe
06-09-2011 11:09 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
this looks tough
06-09-2011 11:09 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
ok
06-09-2011 11:09 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
nah it was e5 haha
06-09-2011 11:09 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
we must have got that last line wrong

Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
cxb3
06-09-2011 11:07 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
exf5 Kf1
06-09-2011 11:07 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
19. g4, c5, 20. Rg1, c4, 21. gxf5, exf5+
06-09-2011 11:06 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
hang on- will set it up again
06-09-2011 11:06 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
u can play exf5 check
06-09-2011 11:05 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
exf5+
06-09-2011 11:05 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
ummm
06-09-2011 11:05 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
no e5
06-09-2011 11:05 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
instead play what?
06-09-2011 11:05 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
ok so no e5
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
interesting is if black moves the King instead of allowing Qxc4+
06-09-2011 11:03 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
heh heh
06-09-2011 11:01 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
Qxc4 Kh8 Nf7+ Kh7 fxg6+ Kg8 Nd6+ Be6 Qxe6+! Rxe6 Nxb7 winning
06-09-2011 11:01 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
hit me
06-09-2011 11:01 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
hehe
06-09-2011 11:01 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Nb6 I don't think is right in that line
06-09-2011 11:01 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
there is this crazy line in that sac
06-09-2011 11:00 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
He played the semi-slav badly IMO
06-09-2011 11:00 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Did you see rujevic-Pyke?
06-09-2011 10:58 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
yeah theres is this nice line
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
depending on what black plays
06-09-2011 10:58 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Nf7+, fxg6+ is coming
06-09-2011 10:57 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
and surely winning after bxc4, Qxc4+
06-09-2011 10:57 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
gxf5, e5, Bxc4!!
06-09-2011 10:56 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
NICE LINE
06-09-2011 10:56 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
oh
06-09-2011 10:56 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
I.. think
06-09-2011 10:56 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
idea of c5 is that you save a tempo by blocking the bishop without needing to take it
06-09-2011 10:55 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
what about gxf5, e5
06-09-2011 10:55 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
ie bxc4 Qxc4
Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
if e5 then Bc4 looks unclear with good chances
06-09-2011 10:55 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
ok so take on f5 exf5
06-09-2011 10:54 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
c5, Rg1, c4
06-09-2011 10:54 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
was the initial idea
06-09-2011 10:53 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
ok try c4
06-09-2011 10:52 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
sweet
06-09-2011 10:52 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
I think Rg1 looks best
06-09-2011 10:52 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
ok lets look at c5
06-09-2011 10:51 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
spent way too long on other moves
06-09-2011 10:50 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
but I only had a couple of mins at that stage
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
I only glanced at g4.. thought c5 hits the rook with tempo
06-09-2011 10:49 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
first move
06-09-2011 10:49 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
but its instructive why you made the mistake
06-09-2011 10:49 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
c5 is strongest
06-09-2011 10:49 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
so u were winning
06-09-2011 10:49 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
+3
06-09-2011 10:49 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
test
06-09-2011 10:49 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Yeah Rg1 wins
06-09-2011 10:48 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
cant believe that Dimmitina is facing an enquiry for having harsh words to a runner in the U9s
06-09-2011 10:44 PM Helix Aspersa (Edit • Delete)

Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
ha
06-09-2011 10:44 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
hehe
06-09-2011 10:44 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
My son played them 3 weeks ago in the U9s
06-09-2011 10:44 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
Dimmitina was coach of St Kilda city U9s hehe
06-09-2011 10:43 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
yeah I think g4 is winning
06-09-2011 10:43 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
or Ke7.. same deal... Qg7+ then Ng5+
06-09-2011 10:43 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Kf7, Qh5+, Kf8, Qh6+, Kf7? Ng5+ and over..
06-09-2011 10:41 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
Ne5 cya later Black
06-09-2011 10:41 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
Kf8 qf6+Kg8 Wg6+ Kf8 Bd6+ Re7
06-09-2011 10:41 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Qh5+
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Kf7?
06-09-2011 10:41 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
now I have to delve into the Colle
06-09-2011 10:41 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
look it wins again
06-09-2011 10:40 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
entertaining position anyway
06-09-2011 10:39 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
g4...
06-09-2011 10:39 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
rd7 not needed
06-09-2011 10:38 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
nah same idea wins probably
06-09-2011 10:37 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
hehe.. but Kf7 survives?
06-09-2011 10:37 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
i misse dthat
06-09-2011 10:37 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
then Ng5 wins yeah?
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Qf6+, Kg8, Rd7!!
06-09-2011 10:36 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Kf8 loses beautifully
06-09-2011 10:36 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
ok Kf8
06-09-2011 10:36 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
I think Qg5+ kf7 Qxh5 guarantees a draw
06-09-2011 10:36 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
e5, Rxg7, Kxg7, Qg5+, Kf8
06-09-2011 10:35 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
yeah or Nxe5
06-09-2011 10:34 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
e5 fails to Rxg7 I think but might be best
06-09-2011 10:34 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
first move
06-09-2011 10:34 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
look at e5
06-09-2011 10:34 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
exactly
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)

yeah
06-09-2011 10:34 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)

well Qg5 crushes
06-09-2011 10:34 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)

ok first Bd7
06-09-2011 10:34 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)

e5
06-09-2011 10:33 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)

yeah
06-09-2011 10:33 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)

what about Bd7
06-09-2011 10:33 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)

so Re7 is bad
06-09-2011 10:33 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)

then Rd8+Kh7 Ng5 Kg6 Nxe6 wins by force
06-09-2011 10:33 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)

all over after RRd8+
06-09-2011 10:33 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)

yep
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Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
like if Nf3 then lets say Re7
06-09-2011 10:32 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
actually I think nf3 wins
06-09-2011 10:32 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
and mate
06-09-2011 10:32 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Qg3, Re7, Rd8+
06-09-2011 10:32 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
ok- Ne4, fxe4 and I think white can only draw?
06-09-2011 10:32 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
haha yeah- it's crazy
06-09-2011 10:30 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
if axb3 play either Nf3 or Ne4
06-09-2011 10:30 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Rg3 I don't get
06-09-2011 10:29 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
22. Rg3?! or Queen g3?
06-09-2011 10:29 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
21. Rg1, axb3
Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
so what does Black play after 21.Rg3
06-09-2011 10:28 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
that looks strong
06-09-2011 10:28 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
once the Knight leaces the g file their is a rook sac and it probably wins
06-09-2011 10:28 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
you want to play Qg3?
06-09-2011 10:27 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
or are you...
06-09-2011 10:26 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
oh you're right
06-09-2011 10:25 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
what 19.g4 a4 20.gxf5 gxf5 21.Rg1 looks dangerous to me
06-09-2011 10:25 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
then Qxc7 and the queen defends everything
06-09-2011 10:25 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
now e5 is threatened
06-09-2011 10:25 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
I can't see the attack.
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
pawn takes bishop
06-09-2011 10:24 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
19. c5 that is
06-09-2011 10:24 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
I think after gxf5 white should play Rg1 and may be better
06-09-2011 10:24 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
coz you save a move playing e5
06-09-2011 10:24 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
I think c5 may even be stronger for black
06-09-2011 10:22 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
yeah looks tough after that
06-09-2011 10:20 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
disregard!
06-09-2011 10:20 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
on no- the c7 bishop would be on
06-09-2011 10:20 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
then Qh7+, Kf8... maybe Rd3
06-09-2011 10:19 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Qxf5 is then possible...
Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
i think after 19.g4 a4 20.gxf5 Black should play gxf5
06-09-2011 10:14 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
there it is:>
06-09-2011 10:14 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Kaplan's Colle
06-09-2011 10:14 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
c5 is my move
06-09-2011 10:14 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
sorry- comp crashed
06-09-2011 10:12 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
Mate 19.g4 is crushing
06-09-2011 10:10 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
hehe u got Kaplan as Black
06-09-2011 10:07 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
which is to be expected after b5 which is provocative
06-09-2011 10:07 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
the position is wild
06-09-2011 10:06 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
disregard!
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Kh8 is awful
06-09-2011 10:06 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
candiidates.. Kh8, c5, a4...
06-09-2011 10:05 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
ok ive set it up
06-09-2011 10:04 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
g4 looks good...............
06-09-2011 10:01 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
also
06-09-2011 10:01 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
I will set it up on my board give me a few seconds
06-09-2011 10:01 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
mmmm... interesting- a4 is probably no good then
06-09-2011 10:01 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
ok- i need to reconsider that line:>
06-09-2011 10:01 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
shit..
06-09-2011 10:01 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
QxRe8 +-
Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
oh the rook
06-09-2011 10:00 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Qg7
06-09-2011 10:00 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
wat
06-09-2011 10:00 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
interpose
06-09-2011 10:00 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
23.Qxg6+
06-09-2011 09:59 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
QxB
06-09-2011 09:58 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
22.Qxf6
06-09-2011 09:57 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
Bxf6
06-09-2011 09:57 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
f6... hang on
06-09-2011 09:57 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
e5 next
Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
21. f6
06-09-2011 09:56 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
axb3
06-09-2011 09:56 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
20.gxf5
06-09-2011 09:56 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
a4
06-09-2011 09:56 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
19.g4 what u play as black
06-09-2011 09:56 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
you can play gxh5, then take on g6- I'm not sure there's a mate
06-09-2011 09:56 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
what
06-09-2011 09:56 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
true- but after g5, a4 and black can win both white bishops
06-09-2011 09:54 PM Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
put it this way he is completely undeveloped and his king is begging to have lines openend against it
06-09-2011 09:53 PM Pablito15 (Edit • Delete)
you think I can play g4 there? i'll open it up one sec
Firegoat7 (Edit • Delete)
look at g4 punk and makes it snappy

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