MCC Openings Group - OzChess

**mowcop** · 10-17-2010, 11:53 PM

The success of the endgame group has inspired me to try something new. Starting on Wednesday 27th October at 7.30pm and then running every second week, an Openings Group will be meeting at MCC. Come and talk about general principles, specific theoretical lines, repertoires, transitional and transpositional ideas and much much more.

This group is free to MCC members and $5 to non members, essentially the price of a visitors fee to the club

**Lekko** · 10-18-2010, 12:11 AM

Excellent. See you all then!

**Pablito15** · 10-18-2010, 03:48 PM

Great!! An idea might be to designate a system every couple of weeks so we can study up/bring in games and maybe even have a bash at a fixed opening or two. Pretty sure I can compete with you lot if I know the line a week in advance

**mowcop** · 10-21-2010, 07:59 PM

Thematic opening nights are certainly something we will look at, but there are other issues that can be looked at. Like the endgame night, I will be looking at linking theory with practice.

**Lekko** · 10-21-2010, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by mowcop

Thematic opening nights are certainly something we will look at, but there are other issues that can be looked at. Like the endgame night, I will be looking at linking theory with practice.

I'm not 100% sure on the types of things we'll be looking at. Will we be looking at specific systems, or broad openings like the sicilian?

**mowcop** · 10-21-2010, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

I'm not 100% sure on the types of things we'll be looking at. Will we be looking at specific systems, or broad openings like the sicilian?

We'll be looking at anything and everything opening related. It's a massive subject, so each week there is plenty to choose from. There are a lot of different questions pertaining to openings, eg:

Theoretical debates
Repertoire ideas
Systemics
Memory vs understanding.
Safe vs critical.
Types of centre.
Gambits
Defences vs counterattacks

etc, etc

**Lekko** · 10-21-2010, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by mowcop

We'll be looking at anything and everything opening related. It's a massive subject, so each week there is plenty to choose from. There are a lot of different questions pertaining to openings, eg:

Theoretical debates
Repertoire ideas
Systemics
Memory vs understanding.
Safe vs critical.
Types of centre.
Gambits
Defences vs counterattacks

etc, etc

Ah nice. You've thought about this a lot more than I have. Theoretical debates should be fun lol.

**mowcop** · 10-21-2010, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

Ah nice. You've thought about this a lot more than I have. Theoretical debates should be fun lol.

About 25 years more than you

**Lekko** · 10-21-2010, 08:56 PM

Originally Posted by mowcop

About 25 years more than you

O_o fair enough.

**Lekko** · 10-21-2010, 09:08 PM

Actually while we're on the topic of openings, do you still have that semi-slav game where white sacrificed a piece that you showed me around the start of the year? Think it was in the moran system or something?

**mowcop** · 10-21-2010, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

Actually while we're on the topic of openings, do you still have that semi-slav game where white sacrificed a piece that you showed me around the start of the year? Think it was in the moran system or something?

I have a huge database of games, but I don't remember the game you're talking about. I'll go check some games and see what I can find for you

**Lekko** · 10-21-2010, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by mowcop

I have a huge database of games, but I don't remember the game you're talking about. I'll go check some games and see what I can find for you

I think it was Bxc4. might have been Nxc4 though.

**mowcop** · 10-21-2010, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

I think it was Bxc4. might have been Nxc4 though.

Kramnik-Anand match? They were mostly Meran's.

**Lekko** · 10-21-2010, 09:50 PM

Originally Posted by mowcop

Kramnik-Anand match? They were mostly Meran's.

I don't think so. I think Gelfand might have been the black side. it was something like Bxc4 bxc4 Nxc4 and we were trying to work out if white had enough compensation.

**mowcop** · 10-21-2010, 10:01 PM

Grischuk-Gelfand Russian team Ch 2010

1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 h6 6. Bh4 dxc4 7. e4 g5 8. Bg3 b5
9. Ne5 Bb7 10. h4 Bg7 11. hxg5 hxg5 12. Rxh8+ Bxh8 13. Bxc4 bxc4 14. Nxc4 Kf8
15. e5 Ne8 16. Qh5 Bg7 17. Ne4 Qe7 18. O-O-O Nd7 19. Nxg5 c5 20. Qg4 cxd4 21.
Rxd4 Bd5 22. Nd6 f5 23. Nxf5 Qc5+ 24. Kd1 exf5 25. Qxf5+ Nef6 26. Rd2 Rc8 27.
b3 Kg8 28. Ne6 Qc1+ 29. Ke2 Ne4 30. Rxd5 Nc3+ 31. Kf3 Nxd5 32. Bf4 Nxf4 0-1

10-17-2010, 11:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
mowcop fireeater Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 825	MCC Openings Group The success of the endgame group has inspired me to try something new. Starting on Wednesday 27th October at 7.30pm and then running every second week, an Openings Group will be meeting at MCC. Come and talk about general principles, specific theoretical lines, repertoires, transitional and transpositional ideas and much much more. This group is free to MCC members and $5 to non members, essentially the price of a visitors fee to the club __________________ Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand I'm trying out a new blog site..... http://gorkachc.blogspot.com/

10-18-2010, 12:11 AM	#2 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Excellent. See you all then! __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

10-18-2010, 03:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pablito15 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 668	Great!! An idea might be to designate a system every couple of weeks so we can study up/bring in games and maybe even have a bash at a fixed opening or two. Pretty sure I can compete with you lot if I know the line a week in advance __________________ My Blog!

10-21-2010, 07:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
mowcop fireeater Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 825	Thematic opening nights are certainly something we will look at, but there are other issues that can be looked at. Like the endgame night, I will be looking at linking theory with practice. __________________ Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand I'm trying out a new blog site..... http://gorkachc.blogspot.com/

10-21-2010, 08:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by mowcop Thematic opening nights are certainly something we will look at, but there are other issues that can be looked at. Like the endgame night, I will be looking at linking theory with practice. I'm not 100% sure on the types of things we'll be looking at. Will we be looking at specific systems, or broad openings like the sicilian? __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

10-21-2010, 08:30 PM	#6 (permalink)
mowcop fireeater Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 825	Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid I'm not 100% sure on the types of things we'll be looking at. Will we be looking at specific systems, or broad openings like the sicilian? We'll be looking at anything and everything opening related. It's a massive subject, so each week there is plenty to choose from. There are a lot of different questions pertaining to openings, eg: Theoretical debates Repertoire ideas Systemics Memory vs understanding. Safe vs critical. Types of centre. Gambits Defences vs counterattacks etc, etc __________________ Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand I'm trying out a new blog site..... http://gorkachc.blogspot.com/

10-21-2010, 08:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by mowcop We'll be looking at anything and everything opening related. It's a massive subject, so each week there is plenty to choose from. There are a lot of different questions pertaining to openings, eg: Theoretical debates Repertoire ideas Systemics Memory vs understanding. Safe vs critical. Types of centre. Gambits Defences vs counterattacks etc, etc Ah nice. You've thought about this a lot more than I have. Theoretical debates should be fun lol. __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

10-21-2010, 08:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
mowcop fireeater Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 825	Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid Ah nice. You've thought about this a lot more than I have. Theoretical debates should be fun lol. About 25 years more than you __________________ Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand I'm trying out a new blog site..... http://gorkachc.blogspot.com/

10-21-2010, 08:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by mowcop About 25 years more than you O_o fair enough. __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

10-21-2010, 09:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Actually while we're on the topic of openings, do you still have that semi-slav game where white sacrificed a piece that you showed me around the start of the year? Think it was in the moran system or something? __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

10-21-2010, 09:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
mowcop fireeater Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 825	Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid Actually while we're on the topic of openings, do you still have that semi-slav game where white sacrificed a piece that you showed me around the start of the year? Think it was in the moran system or something? I have a huge database of games, but I don't remember the game you're talking about. I'll go check some games and see what I can find for you __________________ Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand I'm trying out a new blog site..... http://gorkachc.blogspot.com/

10-21-2010, 09:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by mowcop I have a huge database of games, but I don't remember the game you're talking about. I'll go check some games and see what I can find for you I think it was Bxc4. might have been Nxc4 though. __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

10-21-2010, 09:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
mowcop fireeater Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 825	Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid I think it was Bxc4. might have been Nxc4 though. Kramnik-Anand match? They were mostly Meran's. __________________ Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand I'm trying out a new blog site..... http://gorkachc.blogspot.com/

10-21-2010, 09:50 PM	#14 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by mowcop Kramnik-Anand match? They were mostly Meran's. I don't think so. I think Gelfand might have been the black side. it was something like Bxc4 bxc4 Nxc4 and we were trying to work out if white had enough compensation. __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

10-21-2010, 10:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
mowcop fireeater Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 825	Grischuk-Gelfand Russian team Ch 2010 1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 e6 5. Bg5 h6 6. Bh4 dxc4 7. e4 g5 8. Bg3 b5 9. Ne5 Bb7 10. h4 Bg7 11. hxg5 hxg5 12. Rxh8+ Bxh8 13. Bxc4 bxc4 14. Nxc4 Kf8 15. e5 Ne8 16. Qh5 Bg7 17. Ne4 Qe7 18. O-O-O Nd7 19. Nxg5 c5 20. Qg4 cxd4 21. Rxd4 Bd5 22. Nd6 f5 23. Nxf5 Qc5+ 24. Kd1 exf5 25. Qxf5+ Nef6 26. Rd2 Rc8 27. b3 Kg8 28. Ne6 Qc1+ 29. Ke2 Ne4 30. Rxd5 Nc3+ 31. Kf3 Nxd5 32. Bf4 Nxf4 0-1 __________________ Against the assault of laughter nothing can stand I'm trying out a new blog site..... http://gorkachc.blogspot.com/

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