Silver, Gold, Giegold... - OzChess

**mrmip** · 05-22-2009, 01:58 AM

When you solve a lot of puzzles, you can not avoid the fact that certain composers have an unique, easily detectable style. One of my favourites,Fritz Giegold aka 'Rätsel Onkel' (Puzzle Uncle), certainly does. His problems are often without many variations, contain a hidden point and above all makes you smile and feel good when you 'get them'.

I recall one of the earlier ones I was looking in the local library. When I suddenly stumbled on the solution, I had no alternative, but laugh aloud, drawing some nasty frowns from other patrons. Here it is for your enjoyment:

F.Giegold, 1967

White to play and mate in 3 moves.

**Just2Good** · 05-22-2009, 01:36 PM

Here it is in the pgn viewer. Feel free to move the pieces around to discover the solution!

**Thomas Bishop** · 05-22-2009, 02:42 PM

The trick is to allow Black a move, then get the Queen to the seventh rank for a checkmate the following move!

**LMatheson** · 05-22-2009, 03:06 PM

Gottit

1.Qc2 bxc2
2.Rhc1 wins

Great puzzle

**Calvin** · 05-22-2009, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by LMatheson

Gottit

1.Qc2 bxc2
2.Rhc1 wins

Great puzzle

That is brilliant! So it doesn't matter what pawn take what rook, the other rook delivers checkmate!

Cool puzzle.

**Jaydon** · 05-22-2009, 06:23 PM

That was a cool puzzle!!

**mrmip** · 05-22-2009, 06:40 PM

Allright, folks - I hope You got a smile out of it

**JKT** · 05-22-2009, 07:48 PM

The chess board does not work for me, it says the applet won't work

**mrmip** · 05-24-2009, 01:45 AM

Well. Perhaps You will like another giegold for extra smile?

F.Giegold, 1971

White to play and mate in 3 moves.

**Just2Good** · 05-24-2009, 12:47 PM

I put this game in the pgn/fen chess viewer so people can move the pieces around.

**Lekko** · 05-24-2009, 04:17 PM

I can't find it... I keep getting mate in 4...
1. d5 Ke5
2. Be4 Kf6
3. Qc1 Ke5
4. Qg5

**MonCapitan2002** · 05-24-2009, 06:34 PM

I would appreciate a hint, the first move perhaps.

**mrmip** · 05-24-2009, 08:15 PM

Hint for MonCapitan2002:
[spoiler]
It's a giegold for heaven's sake - so, think of the most stupid move you can!

[/spoiler]

**Just2Good** · 05-24-2009, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by mrmip

Hint for MonCapitan2002:[spoiler]
It's a giegold for heaven's sake - so, think of the most stupid move you can!
[/spoiler]

I am guess that means 1. Qa2 - but where is the mate after 1...bxa2

**Lekko** · 05-24-2009, 08:35 PM

2. Bf5 Kxf5
3. Ng7#

That was a hard one :\

05-22-2009, 01:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
mrmip Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kerava, Finland Posts: 64	Silver, Gold, Giegold... When you solve a lot of puzzles, you can not avoid the fact that certain composers have an unique, easily detectable style. One of my favourites,Fritz Giegold aka 'Rätsel Onkel' (Puzzle Uncle), certainly does. His problems are often without many variations, contain a hidden point and above all makes you smile and feel good when you 'get them'. I recall one of the earlier ones I was looking in the local library. When I suddenly stumbled on the solution, I had no alternative, but laugh aloud, drawing some nasty frowns from other patrons. Here it is for your enjoyment: F.Giegold, 1967 White to play and mate in 3 moves.

05-22-2009, 04:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
Calvin Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 259	Originally Posted by LMatheson Gottit 1.Qc2 bxc2 2.Rhc1 wins Great puzzle That is brilliant! So it doesn't matter what pawn take what rook, the other rook delivers checkmate! Cool puzzle.

05-24-2009, 04:17 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,311 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	I can't find it... I keep getting mate in 4... 1. d5 Ke5 2. Be4 Kf6 3. Qc1 Ke5 4. Qg5 Last edited by Lekko : 05-24-2009 at 04:29 PM

05-24-2009, 08:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by mrmip Hint for MonCapitan2002:[spoiler] It's a giegold for heaven's sake - so, think of the most stupid move you can! [/spoiler] I am guess that means 1. Qa2 - but where is the mate after 1...bxa2 __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

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05-22-2009, 02:42 PM	#3 (permalink)
Thomas Bishop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 248	The trick is to allow Black a move, then get the Queen to the seventh rank for a checkmate the following move!

05-22-2009, 03:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
LMatheson Siberian Chess Cub Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 318	Gottit 1.Qc2 bxc2 2.Rhc1 wins Great puzzle

05-22-2009, 06:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,098 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	That was a cool puzzle!!

05-22-2009, 06:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
mrmip Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kerava, Finland Posts: 64	Allright, folks - I hope You got a smile out of it

05-22-2009, 07:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
JKT Chess novice Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Ballarat, Victoria Posts: 21	The chess board does not work for me, it says the applet won't work

05-24-2009, 01:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
mrmip Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kerava, Finland Posts: 64	Well. Perhaps You will like another giegold for extra smile? F.Giegold, 1971 White to play and mate in 3 moves.

05-24-2009, 06:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
MonCapitan2002 Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Nice, France Posts: 30	I would appreciate a hint, the first move perhaps.

05-24-2009, 08:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
mrmip Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Kerava, Finland Posts: 64	Hint for MonCapitan2002: [spoiler] It's a giegold for heaven's sake - so, think of the most stupid move you can! [/spoiler]

05-24-2009, 08:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,311 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	2. Bf5 Kxf5 3. Ng7# That was a hard one :\