MikesGuns Is a Winner! - OzChess

**Just2Good** · 01-09-2010, 01:29 PM

Unbelievable.

Kevin's newest complaint seems to be that I endorsed a candidate:

Originally Posted by Kevin

When MikesGuns initially nominated for the position, Alex said he was a "great new candidate". Then on 24 Dec, with the poll just reset and its outcome still up in the air, Alex wrote to him "I am sure you will be a great moderator!"

The problem is not that he voted for a candidate (in small elections it is sometimes acceptable for the returning officer to themselves vote if no neutral third-party RO is available). The point is that when the person who owns a site publicly pushes a particular candidate, especially in a public poll, this has a potential to distort the outcome, and therefore it should not be done.

The fact is there was no neutral polling officer, and no need for one. Any member with ten posts could log into the poll and vote for whomever they wished.

While I am touched that Kevin thinks I am so influential that my endorsement gave MikesGuns a huge edge, I think the fact Mike is a great guy and well known Victorian chess player probably had much more to do with his successful result in the OzChess elections!

**Jaydon** · 01-09-2010, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Unbelievable.

Kevin's newest complaint seems to be that I endorsed a candidate:

The fact is there was no neutral polling officer, and no need for one. Any member with ten posts could log into the poll and vote for whomever they wished.

While I am touched that Kevin thinks I am so influential that my endorsement gave MikesGuns a huge edge, I think the fact Mike is a great guy and well known Victorian chess player probably had much more to do with his successful result in the OzChess elections!

That is an absolute load of crap from kb to say the very least.

**Just2Good** · 01-09-2010, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Jaydon

That is an absolute load of crap from kb to say the very least.

But is there anything he says that isn't?

**MikesGuns** · 01-10-2010, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Unbelievable.

Kevin's newest complaint seems to be that I endorsed a candidate:

The fact is there was no neutral polling officer, and no need for one. Any member with ten posts could log into the poll and vote for whomever they wished.

While I am touched that Kevin thinks I am so influential that my endorsement gave MikesGuns a huge edge, I think the fact Mike is a great guy and well known Victorian chess player probably had much more to do with his successful result in the OzChess elections!

Thanks Just 2 Good and Jaydon for youe comments

**Firegoat7** · 01-10-2010, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Jaydon

That is an absolute load of crap from kb to say the very least.

Yeah what else is new from Mr stinkyfeet. Negative,negative,negative

cheers,

01-09-2010, 01:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,054 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	MikesGuns Is a Winner! Unbelievable. Kevin's newest complaint seems to be that I endorsed a candidate: Originally Posted by Kevin When MikesGuns initially nominated for the position, Alex said he was a "great new candidate". Then on 24 Dec, with the poll just reset and its outcome still up in the air, Alex wrote to him "I am sure you will be a great moderator!" The problem is not that he voted for a candidate (in small elections it is sometimes acceptable for the returning officer to themselves vote if no neutral third-party RO is available). The point is that when the person who owns a site publicly pushes a particular candidate, especially in a public poll, this has a potential to distort the outcome, and therefore it should not be done. The fact is there was no neutral polling officer, and no need for one. Any member with ten posts could log into the poll and vote for whomever they wished. While I am touched that Kevin thinks I am so influential that my endorsement gave MikesGuns a huge edge, I think the fact Mike is a great guy and well known Victorian chess player probably had much more to do with his successful result in the OzChess elections! __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

01-09-2010, 01:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,097 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	Originally Posted by Just2Good Unbelievable. Kevin's newest complaint seems to be that I endorsed a candidate: The fact is there was no neutral polling officer, and no need for one. Any member with ten posts could log into the poll and vote for whomever they wished. While I am touched that Kevin thinks I am so influential that my endorsement gave MikesGuns a huge edge, I think the fact Mike is a great guy and well known Victorian chess player probably had much more to do with his successful result in the OzChess elections! That is an absolute load of crap from kb to say the very least.

01-09-2010, 09:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,054 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Jaydon That is an absolute load of crap from kb to say the very least. But is there anything he says that isn't? __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

01-10-2010, 12:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
MikesGuns BHCC and MCC Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 245 ICC Handle: MikesGuns	Originally Posted by Just2Good Unbelievable. Kevin's newest complaint seems to be that I endorsed a candidate: The fact is there was no neutral polling officer, and no need for one. Any member with ten posts could log into the poll and vote for whomever they wished. While I am touched that Kevin thinks I am so influential that my endorsement gave MikesGuns a huge edge, I think the fact Mike is a great guy and well known Victorian chess player probably had much more to do with his successful result in the OzChess elections! Thanks Just 2 Good and Jaydon for youe comments __________________ Never get cocky when you are playing a lower rated player.

01-10-2010, 12:38 AM	#5 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 1,924 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by Jaydon That is an absolute load of crap from kb to say the very least. Yeah what else is new from Mr stinkyfeet. Negative,negative,negative cheers, __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

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