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**Just2Good** · 12-22-2009, 11:39 AM

Please vote for your preferred candidates here. You can vote for more than one person if you like (3 positions are open). Votes are not anonymous, so please be mindful of that.

Daffy Duck and Kevin Bonham were nominated but cannot stand as neither has the minimum ten posts required as per the election rules.

Now that that's taken care of, let's have an orderly election every

**Bill Gletsos** · 12-22-2009, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Daffy Duck and Kevin Bonham were nominated but cannot stand as neither has the minimum ten posts required as per the election rules.

Your only 10 post requirement is for people being allowed to vote.

Your election rules have no such requirement that you need to have 10 posts to be a candidate.

**Jaydon** · 12-22-2009, 03:08 PM

A democratic 'election' for moderators..

**Lakshman** · 12-22-2009, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jaydon

A democratic 'election' for moderators..

The next time they give you all that civic crap about voting, keep in mind that Hitler was elected in a full, free democratic election”

**MikesGuns** · 12-22-2009, 05:34 PM

Good Luck to everyone that is going for the moderator positions

**Lekko** · 12-22-2009, 05:54 PM

We can vote for ourselves, right?

Haha good luck everyone ^_^

**MikesGuns** · 12-22-2009, 06:02 PM

Hey J2G
I think you made a mistake with my name. It's Mikesguns not Mikeguns
Thanks
Michael

**Just2Good** · 12-22-2009, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

Your only 10 post requirement is for people being allowed to vote.
Your election rules have no such requirement that you need to have 10 posts to be a candidate.

Obviously only registered voters can stand for election Bill, and registered voters need to have made ten (10) posts to be eligible to vote. Surely you understand something as basic as that?

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

We can vote for ourselves, right?

Tony Abbott did, and look where it got him!

Originally Posted by MikesGuns

Hey J2G
I think you made a mistake with my name. It's Mikesguns not Mikeguns
Thanks
Michael

Sorry Mike,

I will try to fix it but don't know if I can.

**Bill Gletsos** · 12-22-2009, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Obviously only registered voters can stand for election Bill, and registered voters need to have made ten (10) posts to be eligible to vote. Surely you understand something as basic as that?

Obviously you dont know what you are talking about.
In many elections there is no requirement that the person be able to vote in the election to be a candidate.

As a example just look at the recent CV elections where Cordover did not even need to be a member of an affiliated club to be able to run for CV President.

**Just2Good** · 12-22-2009, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

Obviously you dont know what you are talking about.
In many elections there is no requirement that the person be able to vote in the election to be a candidate.

As a example just look at the recent CV elections where Cordover did not even need to be a member of an affiliated club to be able to run for CV President.

Look at a better example.

No Australian citizen who cannot vote has the right to stand for election - basically this means prisoners/inmates. The reverse is also true.

All Australian citizens who can vote, can also stand for public office (unless they hold other citizenships as well).

**MOZ** · 12-22-2009, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

Obviously you dont know what you are talking about.
In many elections there is no requirement that the person be able to vote in the election to be a candidate.

As a example just look at the recent CV elections where Cordover did not even need to be a member of an affiliated club to be able to run for CV President.

Bill

I think you will find that in this instance both candidates were members of affiliated Clubs.
And further, both were members of the the Association as defined in section 3, sub-section 3.1.

MOZ*

**Bill Gletsos** · 12-22-2009, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Look at a better example.

No Australian citizen who cannot vote has the right to stand for election - basically this means prisoners/inmates. The reverse is also true.

All Australian citizens who can vote, can also stand for public office (unless they hold other citizenships as well).

No you need a better example.

This isnt a government election.

If it was then all your junior members could not vote or stand for election.

**Bill Gletsos** · 12-22-2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Bill

I think you will find that in this instance both candidates were members of affiliated Clubs.
And further, both were members of the the Association as defined in section 3, sub-section 3.1.

MOZ*

I never said Cordover was not a member of an affiliated club , I said he didnt need to be a member of an affiliated club to stand for CV President. In fact he didnt need to be a member under any part of the CV Constitution to be able to stand for election as CV President.

**hobsonbay player** · 12-22-2009, 10:16 PM

If thats correct what bill is saying does this mean it invalid ? in relation to election of mods

**antichrist** · 12-22-2009, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

Obviously you dont know what you are talking about.
In many elections there is no requirement that the person be able to vote in the election to be a candidate.

As a example just look at the recent CV elections where Cordover did not even need to be a member of an affiliated club to be able to run for CV President.

And in the recent NSWCA election weren't you whinging that P Parrs acquaintances (top players in their day) turning up though not active in recent times. To be a candidate one had to be a member of the NSWCA, and to vote one has to be a member of NSWCA - so why can't that apply here.

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12-22-2009, 11:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Enter The Polling Booth Please vote for your preferred candidates here. You can vote for more than one person if you like (3 positions are open). Votes are not anonymous, so please be mindful of that. Daffy Duck and Kevin Bonham were nominated but cannot stand as neither has the minimum ten posts required as per the election rules. Now that that's taken care of, let's have an orderly election every __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

12-22-2009, 02:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by Just2Good Daffy Duck and Kevin Bonham were nominated but cannot stand as neither has the minimum ten posts required as per the election rules. Your only 10 post requirement is for people being allowed to vote. Your election rules have no such requirement that you need to have 10 posts to be a candidate.

12-22-2009, 03:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lakshman Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 329	Originally Posted by Jaydon A democratic 'election' for moderators.. The next time they give you all that civic crap about voting, keep in mind that Hitler was elected in a full, free democratic election” __________________ God is Great

12-22-2009, 05:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
MikesGuns BHCC and MCC Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 248 ICC Handle: MikesGuns	Good Luck to everyone that is going for the moderator positions __________________ Never get cocky when you are playing a lower rated player.

12-22-2009, 03:08 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,101 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	A democratic 'election' for moderators..

12-22-2009, 05:54 PM	#6 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,359 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	We can vote for ourselves, right? Haha good luck everyone ^_^ __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

12-22-2009, 06:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
MikesGuns BHCC and MCC Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 248 ICC Handle: MikesGuns	Hey J2G I think you made a mistake with my name. It's Mikesguns not Mikeguns Thanks Michael __________________ Never get cocky when you are playing a lower rated player.

12-22-2009, 06:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos Your only 10 post requirement is for people being allowed to vote. Your election rules have no such requirement that you need to have 10 posts to be a candidate. Obviously only registered voters can stand for election Bill, and registered voters need to have made ten (10) posts to be eligible to vote. Surely you understand something as basic as that? Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid We can vote for ourselves, right? Tony Abbott did, and look where it got him! Originally Posted by MikesGuns Hey J2G I think you made a mistake with my name. It's Mikesguns not Mikeguns Thanks Michael Sorry Mike, I will try to fix it but don't know if I can. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~ Last edited by Just2Good : 12-22-2009 at 06:37 PM Reason: Election Discussions

12-22-2009, 06:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by Just2Good Obviously only registered voters can stand for election Bill, and registered voters need to have made ten (10) posts to be eligible to vote. Surely you understand something as basic as that? Obviously you dont know what you are talking about. In many elections there is no requirement that the person be able to vote in the election to be a candidate. As a example just look at the recent CV elections where Cordover did not even need to be a member of an affiliated club to be able to run for CV President.

12-22-2009, 07:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos Obviously you dont know what you are talking about. In many elections there is no requirement that the person be able to vote in the election to be a candidate. As a example just look at the recent CV elections where Cordover did not even need to be a member of an affiliated club to be able to run for CV President. Look at a better example. No Australian citizen who cannot vote has the right to stand for election - basically this means prisoners/inmates. The reverse is also true. All Australian citizens who can vote, can also stand for public office (unless they hold other citizenships as well). __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

12-22-2009, 07:11 PM	#11 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Mexico is kosher. Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos Obviously you dont know what you are talking about. In many elections there is no requirement that the person be able to vote in the election to be a candidate. As a example just look at the recent CV elections where Cordover did not even need to be a member of an affiliated club to be able to run for CV President. Bill I think you will find that in this instance both candidates were members of affiliated Clubs. And further, both were members of the the Association as defined in section 3, sub-section 3.1. MOZ* __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

12-22-2009, 10:10 PM	#12 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by Just2Good Look at a better example. No Australian citizen who cannot vote has the right to stand for election - basically this means prisoners/inmates. The reverse is also true. All Australian citizens who can vote, can also stand for public office (unless they hold other citizenships as well). No you need a better example. This isnt a government election. If it was then all your junior members could not vote or stand for election.

12-22-2009, 10:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by MOZ Bill I think you will find that in this instance both candidates were members of affiliated Clubs. And further, both were members of the the Association as defined in section 3, sub-section 3.1. MOZ* I never said Cordover was not a member of an affiliated club , I said he didnt need to be a member of an affiliated club to stand for CV President. In fact he didnt need to be a member under any part of the CV Constitution to be able to stand for election as CV President.

12-22-2009, 10:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
hobsonbay player Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 180	Is this true If thats correct what bill is saying does this mean it invalid ? in relation to election of mods

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12-22-2009, 10:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos Obviously you dont know what you are talking about. In many elections there is no requirement that the person be able to vote in the election to be a candidate. As a example just look at the recent CV elections where Cordover did not even need to be a member of an affiliated club to be able to run for CV President. And in the recent NSWCA election weren't you whinging that P Parrs acquaintances (top players in their day) turning up though not active in recent times. To be a candidate one had to be a member of the NSWCA, and to vote one has to be a member of NSWCA - so why can't that apply here.