New CV Executive - Page 9 - OzChess

**MOZ** · 07-14-2009, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

So who is the organiser?

cheers,

Organiser named here.

Status is advised here.

Denis has been coy about whether AusJCL is incorporated with insurance cover, or whether it has ACF default cover.

**MOZ** · 07-20-2009, 08:39 PM

The Sandman shared the Geelong OPEN 1st prize with Box Hill junior Bobby Cheng.
Well done to the old guard.

I hear he was also carrying out his role as Chess Victoria Vice-President and recognising Geelong's Interclub sagacious entry.

**Sobriquet** · 07-31-2009, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Organiser named here.

Status is advised here.

.

Budget is set at $6600 from an ACF motion that authorised collections from the State bodies
" ACF motion of 23/2/2007.

Specifically section 2(a) of the motion says “(a) That each year the ACF set a target amount of income to be raised in connection with the ASTC.” It seems in that section that there is no intention to use the levy on anything other than ASTC. There is no authorisation of a cream-off by the ACF from the levy, and there is no authorisation of a cream-off by the AusJCL. The full amount of the levy was moved to go to the ASTC.

The target amount is listed in section 3 (of the motion) as $6,600, in 2006.
Chess Victoria has been levied $1650 in the past 2 years. The $6600 figure has remained as the national levy for 2 years.

Most 2-day chess events in Australia would have an administrative budget far less than $6600. If the Tournament Organizer wishes to add additional factors to the event, such as prizes, give-aways, and catering, the Tournament Organizer should
1. Ensure receipt of the full allocation of $6600 from the ACF
2. Consider a charge for attendance at any catered sessions.

**LMatheson** · 08-01-2009, 09:02 AM

I cant beleive bobby still hasn't got Victorian chess player of the month yet! But... well done Jason, Victorian chess player of the month for August

**Sobriquet** · 08-03-2009, 02:25 PM

Meeting is scheduled for Thursday 6th of August.

12 Clubs have accepted the invtation to date.

Agenda to follow.

**Sobriquet** · 08-03-2009, 05:29 PM

1. Present
2. Apologies
3. AGM - Sunday 29th of Nov’09
4. CV Calendar 2010 – 15 of Nov’09
5. Forthcoming Events

5.1- School Finals
5.2- CV Championships & Reserves
5.3- CV Blitz Championship – 29th of Nov’09
5.4– Australasia Masters – Dec’09

6. CV Newsletter- MCC

7. Winter Interclub
7.1 Revamp of Interclub- Peter Caissa
7.2 Vic. Teams Championship- Carl Gorka

8. How to encourage Junior Chess in Vic. – MCC

9. Sponsorships
9.1 FIDE - Australasia Masters – Dec’09
9.2 LEXUS of Blackburn – CV Championships ‘09

10. Other Business
10.1 Clubs details to be update on CV website

**Z&MLoh** · 08-03-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Sobriquet

1. Present
2. Apologies
3. AGM - Sunday 29th of Nov’09
4. CV Calendar 2010 – 15 of Nov’09
5. Forthcoming Events

5.1- School Finals
5.2- CV Championships & Reserves
5.3- CV Blitz Championship – 29th of Nov’09
5.4– Australasia Masters – Dec’09

6. CV Newsletter- MCC

7. Winter Interclub
7.1 Revamp of Interclub- Peter Caissa
7.2 Vic. Teams Championship- Carl Gorka

8. How to encourage Junior Chess in Vic. – MCC

9. Sponsorships
9.1 FIDE - Australasia Masters – Dec’09
9.2 LEXUS of Blackburn – CV Championships ‘09

10. Other Business
10.1 Clubs details to be update on CV website

What about a signature Victorian event in the Class 5 status? ACT has the Doeberl Cup, Sydney has the Sydney International Open, Adelaide has the Freytag Checkmate and Surfers Paradise has the Bendigo Surfers Paradise Open. However, there is no long term commitment to Melbourne Cup event as the MCC event is only for this year so far. Leonid Sandler talked about a "MIO" but where are the plans?

Mike Loh

**MOZ** · 08-03-2009, 06:55 PM

hi Mike

I saw you run this line before with Carl or Grant. I think their strategy of one year at a time is appropriate while they are rebuilding the Club.

If you look at your list I think you will find they are all run by commercial promoters who are willing to underwrite the risk of a substantial promotion. I am not sure there would be a consensus among the Presidents to apply scarce CV funds to a large scale event unless the Siren's work on sponsorship goes up a notch.

My memory of the MIO was that it was in lieu of the SIO; but the SIO seems to be still on the drawing board.

***
Or was your question, "Is there a commercial Victorian promoter putting forward an item"?
No

regards
MOZ

**Bill Gletsos** · 08-04-2009, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Sobriquet

Budget is set at $6600 from an ACF motion that authorised collections from the State bodies
" ACF motion of 23/2/2007.

Specifically section 2(a) of the motion says “(a) That each year the ACF set a target amount of income to be raised in connection with the ASTC.” It seems in that section that there is no intention to use the levy on anything other than ASTC. There is no authorisation of a cream-off by the ACF from the levy, and there is no authorisation of a cream-off by the AusJCL. The full amount of the levy was moved to go to the ASTC.

The target amount is listed in section 3 (of the motion) as $6,600, in 2006.
Chess Victoria has been levied $1650 in the past 2 years. The $6600 figure has remained as the national levy for 2 years.

Most 2-day chess events in Australia would have an administrative budget far less than $6600. If the Tournament Organizer wishes to add additional factors to the event, such as prizes, give-aways, and catering, the Tournament Organizer should
1. Ensure receipt of the full allocation of $6600 from the ACF
2. Consider a charge for attendance at any catered sessions.

Your understanding of this is completely incorrect.

The ASTC levy calculation is based on state population figures but how it is spent was entirely up to the ACF as it went into general revenue.

Now that the AusJCL is in place the levy is still collected by the ACF but is granted to the AusJCL.

**MOZ** · 08-06-2009, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by Sobriquet

1. Present
2. Apologies
3. AGM - Sunday 29th of Nov’09
4. CV Calendar 2010 – 15 of Nov’09
5. ....

Attending
John Langer, Mentone
Andrew Wemyss, Geelong
Peter Caissa, Hobsons Bay and Yarraville
Mirko Rujevic, City of Yarra,
Grant Szuveges, Melbourne
Leonid Sandler
Vic Kildisas, Elwood
Frank Cheng, Box Hill
Trevor Stanning, Treasurer
Richard Goldsmith, Croydon
Katrin Wills, Chair
Gary Wastell, ACF
David Cordover, sub Carl Gorka
Marieke van Dijk, Ranges
apology Frankston.

3. Agreed
4. Agreed

**MOZ** · 08-06-2009, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Sobriquet

...
5. Forthcoming Events

5.1- School Finals
5.2- CV Championships & Reserves
5.3- CV Blitz Championship – 29th of Nov’09
5.4– Australasia Masters – Dec’09

...

Three finals...10/9, 12/10, 19/10.

Championship to be sponsored by LEXUS of Blackburn, 3AW.

Australasia Masters Invitational has an additional sponsor. A remarkable sponsorship of 550 euros by FIDE. More to come on this spectacular coup by the Sandman.

**MOZ** · 08-07-2009, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Sobriquet

...

6. CV Newsletter- MCC

...

The call from the MCC (per Grant Szuveges) for more CV newsletters was strongly supported by most Presidents. A target of 1 per month was the consensus.
Expect a call from the Siren to fill the vacant chair of Editor.

**Just2Good** · 08-07-2009, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Expect a call from the Siren to fill the vacant chair of Editor.

Maybe Firegoat7 could fill the editor's role? He is a good writer.

**MOZ** · 08-07-2009, 08:58 PM

http://chessvictoria.netfirms.com/ch...presidents.jpg

leads to a pic of those Presidents attending the Chess Victoria meeting 6 August 2009.

**MOZ** · 08-10-2009, 12:54 AM

Originally Posted by Sobriquet

...
9.2 LEXUS of Blackburn – CV Championships ‘09

10. Other Business
10.1 Clubs details to be update on CV website

I learned from discussion with the Sandman today that a substantial sponsorship from LEXUS will be applied to the 2009 Victorian Championships.
He has just released a brochure for the event; details will be posted in a new thread on Ozchess. And will be updated on this official page.

07-14-2009, 11:38 PM	#121 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 So who is the organiser? cheers, Organiser named here. Status is advised here. Denis has been coy about whether AusJCL is incorporated with insurance cover, or whether it has ACF default cover. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

07-20-2009, 08:39 PM	#122 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	The old guard is alive. The Sandman shared the Geelong OPEN 1st prize with Box Hill junior Bobby Cheng. Well done to the old guard. I hear he was also carrying out his role as Chess Victoria Vice-President and recognising Geelong's Interclub sagacious entry. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

07-31-2009, 09:36 PM	#123 (permalink)
Sobriquet Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 129	Originally Posted by MOZ Organiser named here. Status is advised here. . Budget is set at $6600 from an ACF motion that authorised collections from the State bodies " ACF motion of 23/2/2007. Specifically section 2(a) of the motion says “(a) That each year the ACF set a target amount of income to be raised in connection with the ASTC.” It seems in that section that there is no intention to use the levy on anything other than ASTC. There is no authorisation of a cream-off by the ACF from the levy, and there is no authorisation of a cream-off by the AusJCL. The full amount of the levy was moved to go to the ASTC. The target amount is listed in section 3 (of the motion) as $6,600, in 2006. Chess Victoria has been levied $1650 in the past 2 years. The $6600 figure has remained as the national levy for 2 years. Most 2-day chess events in Australia would have an administrative budget far less than $6600. If the Tournament Organizer wishes to add additional factors to the event, such as prizes, give-aways, and catering, the Tournament Organizer should 1. Ensure receipt of the full allocation of $6600 from the ACF 2. Consider a charge for attendance at any catered sessions.

08-03-2009, 02:25 PM	#125 (permalink)
Sobriquet Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 129	Presidents meeting with the CV Executive Meeting is scheduled for Thursday 6th of August. 12 Clubs have accepted the invtation to date. Agenda to follow.

08-03-2009, 06:14 PM	#127 (permalink)
Z&MLoh Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 286	Originally Posted by Sobriquet 1. Present 2. Apologies 3. AGM - Sunday 29th of Nov’09 4. CV Calendar 2010 – 15 of Nov’09 5. Forthcoming Events 5.1- School Finals 5.2- CV Championships & Reserves 5.3- CV Blitz Championship – 29th of Nov’09 5.4– Australasia Masters – Dec’09 6. CV Newsletter- MCC 7. Winter Interclub 7.1 Revamp of Interclub- Peter Caissa 7.2 Vic. Teams Championship- Carl Gorka 8. How to encourage Junior Chess in Vic. – MCC 9. Sponsorships 9.1 FIDE - Australasia Masters – Dec’09 9.2 LEXUS of Blackburn – CV Championships ‘09 10. Other Business 10.1 Clubs details to be update on CV website What about a signature Victorian event in the Class 5 status? ACT has the Doeberl Cup, Sydney has the Sydney International Open, Adelaide has the Freytag Checkmate and Surfers Paradise has the Bendigo Surfers Paradise Open. However, there is no long term commitment to Melbourne Cup event as the MCC event is only for this year so far. Leonid Sandler talked about a "MIO" but where are the plans? Mike Loh

08-01-2009, 09:02 AM	#124 (permalink)
LMatheson Siberian Chess Cub Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 318	I cant beleive bobby still hasn't got Victorian chess player of the month yet! But... well done Jason, Victorian chess player of the month for August

08-03-2009, 05:29 PM	#126 (permalink)
Sobriquet Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 129	1. Present 2. Apologies 3. AGM - Sunday 29th of Nov’09 4. CV Calendar 2010 – 15 of Nov’09 5. Forthcoming Events 5.1- School Finals 5.2- CV Championships & Reserves 5.3- CV Blitz Championship – 29th of Nov’09 5.4– Australasia Masters – Dec’09 6. CV Newsletter- MCC 7. Winter Interclub 7.1 Revamp of Interclub- Peter Caissa 7.2 Vic. Teams Championship- Carl Gorka 8. How to encourage Junior Chess in Vic. – MCC 9. Sponsorships 9.1 FIDE - Australasia Masters – Dec’09 9.2 LEXUS of Blackburn – CV Championships ‘09 10. Other Business 10.1 Clubs details to be update on CV website

08-03-2009, 06:55 PM	#128 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	hi Mike I saw you run this line before with Carl or Grant. I think their strategy of one year at a time is appropriate while they are rebuilding the Club. If you look at your list I think you will find they are all run by commercial promoters who are willing to underwrite the risk of a substantial promotion. I am not sure there would be a consensus among the Presidents to apply scarce CV funds to a large scale event unless the Siren's work on sponsorship goes up a notch. My memory of the MIO was that it was in lieu of the SIO; but the SIO seems to be still on the drawing board. * Or was your question, "Is there a commercial Victorian promoter putting forward an item"? No regards MOZ __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole** game. Last edited by MOZ : 08-03-2009 at 07:10 PM

08-04-2009, 10:05 PM	#129 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by Sobriquet Budget is set at $6600 from an ACF motion that authorised collections from the State bodies " ACF motion of 23/2/2007. Specifically section 2(a) of the motion says “(a) That each year the ACF set a target amount of income to be raised in connection with the ASTC.” It seems in that section that there is no intention to use the levy on anything other than ASTC. There is no authorisation of a cream-off by the ACF from the levy, and there is no authorisation of a cream-off by the AusJCL. The full amount of the levy was moved to go to the ASTC. The target amount is listed in section 3 (of the motion) as $6,600, in 2006. Chess Victoria has been levied $1650 in the past 2 years. The $6600 figure has remained as the national levy for 2 years. Most 2-day chess events in Australia would have an administrative budget far less than $6600. If the Tournament Organizer wishes to add additional factors to the event, such as prizes, give-aways, and catering, the Tournament Organizer should 1. Ensure receipt of the full allocation of $6600 from the ACF 2. Consider a charge for attendance at any catered sessions. Your understanding of this is completely incorrect. The ASTC levy calculation is based on state population figures but how it is spent was entirely up to the ACF as it went into general revenue. Now that the AusJCL is in place the levy is still collected by the ACF but is granted to the AusJCL.

08-06-2009, 11:31 PM	#130 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Presidents meeting Originally Posted by Sobriquet 1. Present 2. Apologies 3. AGM - Sunday 29th of Nov’09 4. CV Calendar 2010 – 15 of Nov’09 5. .... Attending John Langer, Mentone Andrew Wemyss, Geelong Peter Caissa, Hobsons Bay and Yarraville Mirko Rujevic, City of Yarra, Grant Szuveges, Melbourne Leonid Sandler Vic Kildisas, Elwood Frank Cheng, Box Hill Trevor Stanning, Treasurer Richard Goldsmith, Croydon Katrin Wills, Chair Gary Wastell, ACF David Cordover, sub Carl Gorka Marieke van Dijk, Ranges apology Frankston. 3. Agreed 4. Agreed __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

08-06-2009, 11:37 PM	#131 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Sobriquet ... 5. Forthcoming Events 5.1- School Finals 5.2- CV Championships & Reserves 5.3- CV Blitz Championship – 29th of Nov’09 5.4– Australasia Masters – Dec’09 ... Three finals...10/9, 12/10, 19/10. Championship to be sponsored by LEXUS of Blackburn, 3AW. Australasia Masters Invitational has an additional sponsor. A remarkable sponsorship of 550 euros by FIDE. More to come on this spectacular coup by the Sandman. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

08-07-2009, 05:14 PM	#132 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	More from the Presdients meeting Originally Posted by Sobriquet ... 6. CV Newsletter- MCC ... The call from the MCC (per Grant Szuveges) for more CV newsletters was strongly supported by most Presidents. A target of 1 per month was the consensus. Expect a call from the Siren to fill the vacant chair of Editor. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

08-07-2009, 08:04 PM	#133 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by MOZ Expect a call from the Siren to fill the vacant chair of Editor. Maybe Firegoat7 could fill the editor's role? He is a good writer. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

08-07-2009, 08:58 PM	#134 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	All the Prsients men. http://chessvictoria.netfirms.com/ch...presidents.jpg leads to a pic of those Presidents attending the Chess Victoria meeting 6 August 2009. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

08-10-2009, 12:54 AM	#135 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	More from the Presidents meeting Originally Posted by Sobriquet ... 9.2 LEXUS of Blackburn – CV Championships ‘09 10. Other Business 10.1 Clubs details to be update on CV website I learned from discussion with the Sandman today that a substantial sponsorship from LEXUS will be applied to the 2009 Victorian Championships. He has just released a brochure for the event; details will be posted in a new thread on Ozchess. And will be updated on this official page. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

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