New CV Executive - Page 17 - OzChess

**Just2Good** · 03-24-2010, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Some of the arbiters were volunteers.

The way it should be!

**Il cavaliere inesistente** · 03-24-2010, 10:07 PM

Well firegoat did you like Moz's explanations? Well If you don't like them I have others. [adapted from Groucho Marx]

**Sobriquet** · 03-24-2010, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by Sobriquet

Chess Victoria Inc.
Agenda for Executive meeting #2 of 2009/2010 Executive.
Thursday 18th March 7pm Chess Ideas premises.

...
10. Event-hostings; status review:
i. The Victorian Championship. CV
ii. The Victorian Open. BHCC
iii. The Victorian Blitz. MCC
iv. The Victorian Interschool Finals. CV
v. The Victorian Junior Titles. CJCC
vi. The Teams Championship. CV
vii. The Victorian Masters. Not yet offered; but traditionally has been awarded to the promoter of the Australian/Australasian Masters.
...

I have been advised that in regard to i) above, most rounds are to be scheduled at the MCC and the Elwood CC.

**Just2Good** · 03-27-2010, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Il cavaliere inesistente

Well firegoat did you like Moz's explanations? Well If you don't like them I have others. [adapted from Groucho Marx]

MOZ's explanations are always concise and to the point. He is a terrific chess administrator and person!

**MOZ** · 03-29-2010, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges

The following post in 5 parts is from me (Grant Szuveges) and not from the Melbourne Chess Club. Anyone who has any issue with it should "blame" me and not the MCC for posting this.

This is the CV treasurers report from the Feb 11 CV committee meeting. (the minutes of that meeting can be seen on the thread) I was told that I should have a look at this and thus I got a copy from CV... (all CV affiliated clubs and their members have the right to see it apparently) I also believe that all Victorian chess club committees should also be having a look at this, as should all members of Victorian chess clubs.

Recommendation 3 is of particular interest and I would like to know what Victorian chess players this about this.

I would also like to hear what the 2009 CV treasurer (and 2009 CV committee in general) have to say in response to the "please explains" that the 2010 treasurer asks for in this report....

Im not saying that any foul-play has occured with CV in 2009, but I would like these "please explains" answered including:

1. the alleged "purging of MYOB transactions prior to Oct 1st 2009"

2. the alleged "withholding of financial documents by the 2009 treasurer"

3. the alleged "fictious $1530"

4. the alleged "$3500 ignored financial commitments in the Nov 2009 AGM budget"

5. the alleged "overall loss of $9744"

6. the alleged fact that "Chess Victoria’s financial position and financial trajectory are now quite different to the expectation accepted by members at the AGM less than three months ago. Both are worse, to the cumulative value of about $10,000 or 30% of the total equity reported at the AGM."

7. the alleged payments to Leonid Sandler for $1626 and $2803 (Im not questioning the legitimacy of these, but I do think that they are quite high and that they could be explained in more detail - is it normal to pay someone this amount for organising a masters tournament and an interschool competition?)

As I said earlier, Im not saying that there is any foul play involved. Im just saying that I would like some answers about these points and that the Victorian chess playing public deserve some answers too.

I would also like to say that the 2010 CV committee are not the people who would necessarily have these answers, but I do think that they are now responsible for finding the answers from the 2009 committee... They are not responsible for anything that the 2009 committee may have done - particularly not Darryl Johansen who was not part of the committee in 2009 and from all accounts has been particularly transparent in his CV role in 2010.

Im also happy about the recommendations that were passed and I agree with the decision not to pass recommendation 6. I do think that recommendation 3 should have been passed - particularly if CVs financial situation was so different to what was said at the Nov 2009 AGM (which is what has been alleged in this report).

Hopefully the 2009 CV committee can answer these "please explains" and if they dont, then hopefully the 2010 CV committee can make them accountable for not doing so.

Enjoy reading the CV treasurers report...

The new Treasurer's assumption that led to his estimate in 5. has been retracted by him. Thus all conclusions drawn which relied on this misjudgment are invalid conclusions.

**Just2Good** · 03-29-2010, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

The new Treasurer's assumption that led to his estimate in 5. has been retracted by him. Thus all conclusions drawn which relied on this misjudgment are invalid conclusions.

Did the new treasurer under estimate or over estimate #5?

**Firegoat7** · 03-29-2010, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

The new Treasurer's assumption that led to his estimate in 5. has been retracted by him. Thus all conclusions drawn which relied on this misjudgment are invalid conclusions.

As if there was any doubt

. What error did he make?

cheers,

**Firegoat7** · 03-29-2010, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

There were quite a few finals in fact, and at different venues.
There were two roles at the largest of the finals; that of tournament organizer, and that of one of a panel of arbiters.
Some of the arbiters were volunteers. Other arbiters were paid. Paid or not, it was fairly tiring supervision work.
The cheques were signed by authorised signatories who received nothing from the events.

cheerfully
MOZ*

This is like a Cryptic Crossword.

Role 1: Whom were the tournament (s) organiser (s) and how much did they get paid?
Role 2: Who were the arbiters? Who was paid how much?

cheers,

**MOZ** · 03-29-2010, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

This is like a Cryptic Crossword.

Role 1: Whom were the tournament (s) organiser (s) and how much did they get paid?
Role 2: Who were the arbiters? Who was paid how much?

cheers,

Your question in post 239 was HOW the payments worked.

As I explained
> there was a T.O. At all venues this was Leonid
>> there were Arbiters. At the Primary Schools final these were Victor, David H, Darryl, George, and Trevor. I was a volunteer.

The payments to each individual were outlined by Leonid at the AGM in response to a question.
There is nothing cryptic here; I just don't have the detail.

From memory there was a Secondary Boys FINAL, a SECONDARY Girls Final, and a PRIMARY Final.

cheerfully, once again
MOZ*

**MOZ** · 03-29-2010, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

As if there was any doubt . What error did he make?

cheers,

He assumed taxation obligations.

**MOZ** · 03-30-2010, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges

The following post in 5 parts is from me (Grant Szuveges) and not from the Melbourne Chess Club. Anyone who has any issue with it should "blame" me and not the MCC for posting this.

Noted. So I am ignoring the over-size avatar on the left of your post.

Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges

This is the CV treasurers report from the Feb 11 CV committee meeting. (the minutes of that meeting can be seen on the thread) I was told that I should have a look at this and thus I got a copy from CV... (all CV affiliated clubs and their members have the right to see it apparently) I also believe that all Victorian chess club committees should also be having a look at this, as should all members of Victorian chess clubs.

Recommendation 3 is of particular interest and I would like to know what Victorian chess players this about this.

I would also like to hear what the 2009 CV treasurer (and 2009 CV committee in general) have to say in response to the "please explains" that the 2010 treasurer asks for in this report....

Im not saying that any foul-play has occured with CV in 2009, but I would like these "please explains" answered including:

1. the alleged "purging of MYOB transactions prior to Oct 1st 2009"

2. the alleged "withholding of financial documents by the 2009 treasurer"

3. the alleged "fictious $1530"

4. the alleged "$3500 ignored financial commitments in the Nov 2009 AGM budget"

5. the alleged "overall loss of $9744"

6. the alleged fact that "Chess Victoria’s financial position and financial trajectory are now quite different to the expectation accepted by members at the AGM less than three months ago. Both are worse, to the cumulative value of about $10,000 or 30% of the total equity reported at the AGM."

7. the alleged payments to Leonid Sandler for $1626 and $2803 (Im not questioning the legitimacy of these, but I do think that they are quite high and that they could be explained in more detail - is it normal to pay someone this amount for organising a masters tournament and an interschool competition?)

As I said earlier, Im not saying that there is any foul play involved. Im just saying that I would like some answers about these points and that the Victorian chess playing public deserve some answers too.

I would also like to say that the 2010 CV committee are not the people who would necessarily have these answers, but I do think that they are now responsible for finding the answers from the 2009 committee... They are not responsible for anything that the 2009 committee may have done - particularly not Darryl Johansen who was not part of the committee in 2009 and from all accounts has been particularly transparent in his CV role in 2010.

Im also happy about the recommendations that were passed and I agree with the decision not to pass recommendation 6. I do think that recommendation 3 should have been passed - particularly if CVs financial situation was so different to what was said at the Nov 2009 AGM (which is what has been alleged in this report).

Hopefully the 2009 CV committee can answer these "please explains" and if they dont, then hopefully the 2010 CV committee can make them accountable for not doing so.

Enjoy reading the CV treasurers report...

On the Sunday the 29th of November 2009, after the CV AGM, the new Treasurer advised me that he was likely to use EXCEL spreadsheets instead the MYOB software that has been used for 8 or so years by CV.
On Thursday the 3rd of December 2009 I travelled from Melbourne to Frankston to hand-over knowledge, paperwork and computer files.
The MYOB file I prepared was opening balances for entry into a new spreadsheet. In starting a new financial year, in MYOB, the software purges all completed transactions from the previous year.

Subsequently, the new Treasurer decided to abandon his EXCEL spreadsheet method and has switched back to using MYOB. I have given him a 2009 version of the file with 2009 transactions included.

**Grant Szuveges** · 03-30-2010, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Noted. So I am ignoring the over-size avatar on the left of your post.

The oversized avatar was added some time after I wrote that post. It was added by Just2Good (Alex) because I had won the post of the month award (for another post) and thus needed an avatar for my winning post to be displayed in the post of the month section.

Its an appropriate avatar I suppose, since I am the MCC President but if Im writing something on a forum which is not necessarily the "MCC line" I like to mention that so that people know when it is Grant Szuveges the civilian talking and when it is Grant Szuveges the MCC President talking....

**MOZ** · 03-30-2010, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges

The oversized avatar was added some time after I wrote that post. It was added by Just2Good (Alex) because I had won the post of the month award (for another post) and thus needed an avatar for my winning post to be displayed in the post of the month section.

Its an appropriate avatar I suppose, since I am the MCC President but if Im writing something on a forum which is not necessarily the "MCC line" I like to mention that so that people know when it is Grant Szuveges the civilian talking and when it is Grant Szuveges the MCC President talking....

I appreciate how difficult it is to keep clarity because I have watched similar episodes over on the ACF Officials' site, called chesschat, where it is often a test to distinguish between Bill Poster, Bill Ratings, and Bill Mod.

**Iconoclast** · 03-30-2010, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

... it is often a test to distinguish between Bill Poster, Bill Ratings, and Bill Mod.

An unholy trinity.

Here is another troika: ExecNSWCA, ExecACF, ExecCC.

And another unnatural abomination: canis; Vibrio cholerae; integrated circuit.

**Just2Good** · 03-30-2010, 11:51 PM

Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges

The oversized avatar was added some time after I wrote that post. It was added by Just2Good (Alex) because I had won the post of the month award (for another post) and thus needed an avatar for my winning post to be displayed in the post of the month section.

Its an appropriate avatar I suppose, since I am the MCC President but if Im writing something on a forum which is not necessarily the "MCC line" I like to mention that so that people know when it is Grant Szuveges the civilian talking and when it is Grant Szuveges the MCC President talking....

Yes, and Flavid Dude also got his new avatar for the same reason - to make the POTM section function properly.

03-24-2010, 06:49 PM	#241 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by MOZ Some of the arbiters were volunteers. The way it should be! __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

03-24-2010, 10:07 PM	#242 (permalink)
Il cavaliere inesistente Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 196	Further explanations Well firegoat did you like Moz's explanations? Well If you don't like them I have others. [adapted from Groucho Marx]

03-24-2010, 11:03 PM	#243 (permalink)
Sobriquet Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 129	Originally Posted by Sobriquet Chess Victoria Inc. Agenda for Executive meeting #2 of 2009/2010 Executive. Thursday 18th March 7pm Chess Ideas premises. ... 10. Event-hostings; status review: i. The Victorian Championship. CV ii. The Victorian Open. BHCC iii. The Victorian Blitz. MCC iv. The Victorian Interschool Finals. CV v. The Victorian Junior Titles. CJCC vi. The Teams Championship. CV vii. The Victorian Masters. Not yet offered; but traditionally has been awarded to the promoter of the Australian/Australasian Masters. ... I have been advised that in regard to i) above, most rounds are to be scheduled at the MCC and the Elwood CC.

03-27-2010, 08:57 PM	#244 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Il cavaliere inesistente Well firegoat did you like Moz's explanations? Well If you don't like them I have others. [adapted from Groucho Marx] MOZ's explanations are always concise and to the point. He is a terrific chess administrator and person! __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

03-29-2010, 12:12 PM	#245 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges The following post in 5 parts is from me (Grant Szuveges) and not from the Melbourne Chess Club. Anyone who has any issue with it should "blame" me and not the MCC for posting this. This is the CV treasurers report from the Feb 11 CV committee meeting. (the minutes of that meeting can be seen on the thread) I was told that I should have a look at this and thus I got a copy from CV... (all CV affiliated clubs and their members have the right to see it apparently) I also believe that all Victorian chess club committees should also be having a look at this, as should all members of Victorian chess clubs. Recommendation 3 is of particular interest and I would like to know what Victorian chess players this about this. I would also like to hear what the 2009 CV treasurer (and 2009 CV committee in general) have to say in response to the "please explains" that the 2010 treasurer asks for in this report.... Im not saying that any foul-play has occured with CV in 2009, but I would like these "please explains" answered including: 1. the alleged "purging of MYOB transactions prior to Oct 1st 2009" 2. the alleged "withholding of financial documents by the 2009 treasurer" 3. the alleged "fictious $1530" 4. the alleged "$3500 ignored financial commitments in the Nov 2009 AGM budget" 5. the alleged "overall loss of $9744" 6. the alleged fact that "Chess Victoria’s financial position and financial trajectory are now quite different to the expectation accepted by members at the AGM less than three months ago. Both are worse, to the cumulative value of about $10,000 or 30% of the total equity reported at the AGM." 7. the alleged payments to Leonid Sandler for $1626 and $2803 (Im not questioning the legitimacy of these, but I do think that they are quite high and that they could be explained in more detail - is it normal to pay someone this amount for organising a masters tournament and an interschool competition?) As I said earlier, Im not saying that there is any foul play involved. Im just saying that I would like some answers about these points and that the Victorian chess playing public deserve some answers too. I would also like to say that the 2010 CV committee are not the people who would necessarily have these answers, but I do think that they are now responsible for finding the answers from the 2009 committee... They are not responsible for anything that the 2009 committee may have done - particularly not Darryl Johansen who was not part of the committee in 2009 and from all accounts has been particularly transparent in his CV role in 2010. Im also happy about the recommendations that were passed and I agree with the decision not to pass recommendation 6. I do think that recommendation 3 should have been passed - particularly if CVs financial situation was so different to what was said at the Nov 2009 AGM (which is what has been alleged in this report). Hopefully the 2009 CV committee can answer these "please explains" and if they dont, then hopefully the 2010 CV committee can make them accountable for not doing so. Enjoy reading the CV treasurers report... The new Treasurer's assumption that led to his estimate in 5. has been retracted by him. Thus all conclusions drawn which relied on this misjudgment are invalid conclusions. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

03-29-2010, 01:00 PM	#246 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by MOZ The new Treasurer's assumption that led to his estimate in 5. has been retracted by him. Thus all conclusions drawn which relied on this misjudgment are invalid conclusions. Did the new treasurer under estimate or over estimate #5? __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

03-29-2010, 02:53 PM	#247 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 2,044 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by MOZ The new Treasurer's assumption that led to his estimate in 5. has been retracted by him. Thus all conclusions drawn which relied on this misjudgment are invalid conclusions. As if there was any doubt . What error did he make? cheers, __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

03-29-2010, 02:59 PM	#248 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 2,044 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by MOZ There were quite a few finals in fact, and at different venues. There were two roles at the largest of the finals; that of tournament organizer, and that of one of a panel of arbiters. Some of the arbiters were volunteers. Other arbiters were paid. Paid or not, it was fairly tiring supervision work. The cheques were signed by authorised signatories who received nothing from the events. cheerfully MOZ* This is like a Cryptic Crossword. Role 1: Whom were the tournament (s) organiser (s) and how much did they get paid? Role 2: Who were the arbiters? Who was paid how much? cheers, __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

03-29-2010, 03:19 PM	#249 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 This is like a Cryptic Crossword. Role 1: Whom were the tournament (s) organiser (s) and how much did they get paid? Role 2: Who were the arbiters? Who was paid how much? cheers, Your question in post 239 was HOW the payments worked. As I explained > there was a T.O. At all venues this was Leonid >> there were Arbiters. At the Primary Schools final these were Victor, David H, Darryl, George, and Trevor. I was a volunteer. The payments to each individual were outlined by Leonid at the AGM in response to a question. There is nothing cryptic here; I just don't have the detail. From memory there was a Secondary Boys FINAL, a SECONDARY Girls Final, and a PRIMARY Final. cheerfully, once again MOZ* __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

03-29-2010, 03:21 PM	#250 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 As if there was any doubt . What error did he make? cheers, He assumed taxation obligations. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

03-30-2010, 10:39 AM	#251 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	2 down. Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges The following post in 5 parts is from me (Grant Szuveges) and not from the Melbourne Chess Club. Anyone who has any issue with it should "blame" me and not the MCC for posting this. Noted. So I am ignoring the over-size avatar on the left of your post. Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges This is the CV treasurers report from the Feb 11 CV committee meeting. (the minutes of that meeting can be seen on the thread) I was told that I should have a look at this and thus I got a copy from CV... (all CV affiliated clubs and their members have the right to see it apparently) I also believe that all Victorian chess club committees should also be having a look at this, as should all members of Victorian chess clubs. Recommendation 3 is of particular interest and I would like to know what Victorian chess players this about this. I would also like to hear what the 2009 CV treasurer (and 2009 CV committee in general) have to say in response to the "please explains" that the 2010 treasurer asks for in this report.... Im not saying that any foul-play has occured with CV in 2009, but I would like these "please explains" answered including: 1. the alleged "purging of MYOB transactions prior to Oct 1st 2009" 2. the alleged "withholding of financial documents by the 2009 treasurer" 3. the alleged "fictious $1530" 4. the alleged "$3500 ignored financial commitments in the Nov 2009 AGM budget" 5. the alleged "overall loss of $9744" 6. the alleged fact that "Chess Victoria’s financial position and financial trajectory are now quite different to the expectation accepted by members at the AGM less than three months ago. Both are worse, to the cumulative value of about $10,000 or 30% of the total equity reported at the AGM." 7. the alleged payments to Leonid Sandler for $1626 and $2803 (Im not questioning the legitimacy of these, but I do think that they are quite high and that they could be explained in more detail - is it normal to pay someone this amount for organising a masters tournament and an interschool competition?) As I said earlier, Im not saying that there is any foul play involved. Im just saying that I would like some answers about these points and that the Victorian chess playing public deserve some answers too. I would also like to say that the 2010 CV committee are not the people who would necessarily have these answers, but I do think that they are now responsible for finding the answers from the 2009 committee... They are not responsible for anything that the 2009 committee may have done - particularly not Darryl Johansen who was not part of the committee in 2009 and from all accounts has been particularly transparent in his CV role in 2010. Im also happy about the recommendations that were passed and I agree with the decision not to pass recommendation 6. I do think that recommendation 3 should have been passed - particularly if CVs financial situation was so different to what was said at the Nov 2009 AGM (which is what has been alleged in this report). Hopefully the 2009 CV committee can answer these "please explains" and if they dont, then hopefully the 2010 CV committee can make them accountable for not doing so. Enjoy reading the CV treasurers report... On the Sunday the 29th of November 2009, after the CV AGM, the new Treasurer advised me that he was likely to use EXCEL spreadsheets instead the MYOB software that has been used for 8 or so years by CV. On Thursday the 3rd of December 2009 I travelled from Melbourne to Frankston to hand-over knowledge, paperwork and computer files. The MYOB file I prepared was opening balances for entry into a new spreadsheet. In starting a new financial year, in MYOB, the software purges all completed transactions from the previous year. Subsequently, the new Treasurer decided to abandon his EXCEL spreadsheet method and has switched back to using MYOB. I have given him a 2009 version of the file with 2009 transactions included. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

03-30-2010, 03:45 PM	#252 (permalink)
Grant Szuveges Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,003	Originally Posted by MOZ Noted. So I am ignoring the over-size avatar on the left of your post. The oversized avatar was added some time after I wrote that post. It was added by Just2Good (Alex) because I had won the post of the month award (for another post) and thus needed an avatar for my winning post to be displayed in the post of the month section. Its an appropriate avatar I suppose, since I am the MCC President but if Im writing something on a forum which is not necessarily the "MCC line" I like to mention that so that people know when it is Grant Szuveges the civilian talking and when it is Grant Szuveges the MCC President talking.... __________________ People who have nothing to hide post using their real names...

03-30-2010, 04:44 PM	#253 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges The oversized avatar was added some time after I wrote that post. It was added by Just2Good (Alex) because I had won the post of the month award (for another post) and thus needed an avatar for my winning post to be displayed in the post of the month section. Its an appropriate avatar I suppose, since I am the MCC President but if Im writing something on a forum which is not necessarily the "MCC line" I like to mention that so that people know when it is Grant Szuveges the civilian talking and when it is Grant Szuveges the MCC President talking.... I appreciate how difficult it is to keep clarity because I have watched similar episodes over on the ACF Officials' site, called chesschat, where it is often a test to distinguish between Bill Poster, Bill Ratings, and Bill Mod. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

03-30-2010, 04:59 PM	#254 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by MOZ ... it is often a test to distinguish between Bill Poster, Bill Ratings, and Bill Mod. An unholy trinity. Here is another troika: ExecNSWCA, ExecACF, ExecCC. And another unnatural abomination: canis; Vibrio cholerae; integrated circuit. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

03-30-2010, 11:51 PM	#255 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges The oversized avatar was added some time after I wrote that post. It was added by Just2Good (Alex) because I had won the post of the month award (for another post) and thus needed an avatar for my winning post to be displayed in the post of the month section. Its an appropriate avatar I suppose, since I am the MCC President but if Im writing something on a forum which is not necessarily the "MCC line" I like to mention that so that people know when it is Grant Szuveges the civilian talking and when it is Grant Szuveges the MCC President talking.... Yes, and Flavid Dude also got his new avatar for the same reason - to make the POTM section function properly. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

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