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The decision was made soon after a minute dated late December 2009. The Treasurer's report posted by Grant is February 2010. The issues raised by the new Treasurer were all unknown to the Executive until he posted his report. Just to refresh...the December minute was
Some changes to navigation have been made. The look and feel remains as the same because template software is being used. You will have noticed no new posts on this topic (CV web-site functionality changes) since . And the would-be other entrants into the market seem to have choked off their update enthusiasm.
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Originally Posted by MOZ
Is the new and improved CV website likely to dampen activity on this website, in so far as it pertains to Victorian chess related news?
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Hi,
Interesting stuff Grant. A couple of questions...
Originally Posted by Treasurer report
My understanding (which may be wrong), is that sponsorship was the provision of a qualified arbiter, namely Gary Bekker. That cost being $500, which seemed rather expensive at the time. Is that correct?
How does the payment of the rating fee measure up to the MCC treasury report on the 2009 year? cheers,
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Originally Posted by Treasurer report
Why do I find this a strange request?
Well it seems completely logical that the treasurer ought to be trusted with the cheque book. But normally two signatures are required for ALL financial transactions. Therefore why the clause of "...only for the purpose of paying prize money and appearance fees" ?? cheers,
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Originally Posted by Treasurer report
I presume all this is simply about the current treasurer not being exactly happy with the current state of record keeping by the previous treasurer.
Nevertheless, I would like to hear Trevor's version of the four events. I am sure there are logical explanations. cheers,
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Originally Posted by Treasurer Report
What does this relate towards?
Prize money? ABN identification? cheers,
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7
From memory, the $500 sponsorship from CV was on the proviso that it would not be used for prize-money. It couldnt be used for rating fees because CV waved them anyway. Therefore it had to be used for paying the arbiter or advertising or admin costs. I would have to check through my old emails to give you an "exact answer", but Im pretty sure that this was how it was. I dont think that the whole lot of it went on the arbiter though, I think that some went on advertising and admin (printing flyers etc). Id have to double check that though.
How does the payment of the rating fee measure up the the MCC treasury report for 2009? I dont know - Im not even sure what you mean by that, but Pano (the MCC treasurer) would be able to tell you. We still had to pay the FIDE rating fee for the Cup Weekender - just not the ACF one (if my memory serves me correctly). In any case, Pano will be able to give you an exact answer on this one. His accounting and treasury practices are unbelievably accurate and transparent.
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Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges
The important thing to remember is that MCC has documented these figures, as was indicated by Pano at the MCC AGM. Therefore, MCC cannot under ANY condition be held accountable for any back payment to ChessVictoria in 2010 for any supposed receipt error (not that this action was necessarily going to occur) . The current Chess Victoria Treasurer is suggesting that there is a budget shortage on the ChessVictoria books, and that this was partially due to incomplete documentation in regards to this event. I am just making the point that this is an internal problem for ChessVictoria and has nothing to really do with MCC.
Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges
I seem to recall some discussion about this issue at the MCC AGM. The 2009 Melbourne cup weekender has been FIDE rated as indicated by Greg Canfell, which supports your statement. Therefore any potential fallout over the ACF rating fee is ChessVictoria's internal problem.
cheers,
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7
Well, if the MCC benefitted from a CV error, isn't paying it back the honourable thing to do?
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From...Coffee House Chess
ack Carl Gorka There has been a lack of team chess in Victoria over the past couple of years, and the CV executive have decided to try to remedy this. Team chess is an integral part of chess communities, and can be a great way for new players to be introduced into chess, while giving more experienced players a chance to play alongside their friends. In 2009, a new system is being trialed by CV in an attempt to make things as flexible as possible for teams and players. The details are published here. In the recent past, league chess in Victoria has been based around one, or a couple of venues but this time around, there is to be a home and away system. There has been a grades or divisional system where this year there will be one big swiss event, which will hopefully lead to divisional chess in 2011. And although the teams are to be based at clubs, there is some flexibility for teams to be composed of players from different clubs. Finally, instead of dictating when the games will be played, the organisers will give a window of time for each round to be played, and it will be up to teams to arrange their matches. After talking with CV President and some other club officials, it appears there may be about 15 teams from possibly at least 6 clubs. While this might seem like a modest start, it is at least a start, and I welcome the initiative. My club, the MCC, looks as if it will have 4 or 5 teams though there has been a mixed response….of course, team chess will not be for everybody, and there are players who cannot commit to any more than they are already giving to the game. Funnily enough, although I intend to play in the event, I’m still not sure which team I’ll be representing! |
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Chess Victoria Inc.
Agenda for Executive meeting #2 of 2009/2010 Executive. Thursday 18th March 7pm Chess Ideas premises. 1. Open meeting 2. Apologies 3. Outwards correspondence a. Response re clocks b. Response re School Teams proposal. c. Presidents reports sent out via CV e-mail distribution list d. Invitation to submit teams to Victorian Teams Tournament 4. To note recent events and decisions by other organisations: a. Ballarat Begonia 2010 b. Australian Open 2011 c. Others, to be advised by any Executive member at the meeting. 5. Report by Treasurer 6. Each member of the Executive has accepted the need to occupy an operational position on the attached Organisation chart. The Secretary to bring the chart up-to-date. This task remains open as a replacement Secretary is yet to be found. 7. Inwards Correspondence a. Cheque from Lexus sponsorship. b. Correspondence (Frankston Chess Club request) c. Other 8. Report on progress to establish Tournament Manager and Process document for the 2010 Team Championship. 9. Inward correspondence. a. Access to CV records. i. Importance of privacy and confidentiality 10. Event-hostings; status review: i. The Victorian Championship ii. The Victorian Open iii. The Victorian Blitz iv. The Victorian Interschool Finals v. The Victorian Junior Titles vi. The Teams Championship. vii. The Victorian Masters 11. Set next meeting date and location. 12. Close meeting |
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Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges
Nothing on the CV agenda.
Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges
Nothing on the CV agenda
Nothing on the CV agenda
Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges
Nothing on the CV agenda
Well it appears that the CV President has chased up the sponsorship from Lexus , so the figure may be reduced to $6,744.
Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges
I suppose we will here about this from the treasurers report.
Originally Posted by Grant Szuveges
I am very curious about these payments. They do seem rather expensive.
cheers, P.S I noticed the CV agenda lists .... 9. Inward correspondence. a. Access to CV records. i. Importance of privacy and confidentiality I certainly hope somebody speaks up about open democratic accountability because a transparent ChessVictoria is what the punters want! cheers,
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Oh. Okay, then there is nothing to be repaid.
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7
"Sobriquet" obviously has access to CV information.... I wonder who "Sobriquet" is.... Does anyone know?
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