2008 Victorian Championship - OzChess

**MOZ** · 08-16-2008, 10:36 PM

The Chess Victoria web-site has a page devoted to the 2008 Victorian Championship.

First paid entry was received last night by the Treasurer.

Entry forms were available at the INTERCLUB competition.
Or download from the linked web-page.

**KiD** · 08-26-2008, 11:46 AM

Can you dangle some names yet? Any chance for the Vic Champs to be anywhere near as strong as the current NSW Champs?

**MOZ** · 08-26-2008, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

Can you dangle some names yet?

The Tournament Director 'dangled' a few in a phone conversation to me; but you know what Treasurers are like,

, they only count when the money is on the table. So, 1 it is to date.

Any chance for the Vic Champs to be anywhere near as strong as the current NSW Champs?

It is hard to see any trend in recent years that would support the chance.

MOZ

**Firegoat7** · 08-26-2008, 09:05 PM

Hi Moz,

I have a curious question. Why do senior and female entrants in their respective events have to be affiliated with CV clubs but others not?

cheers Fg7

**MOZ** · 08-26-2008, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

Hi Moz,

I have a curious question. Why do senior and female entrants in their respective events have to be affiliated with CV clubs but others not?

cheers Fg7

Err, um, ah....
I would like to help you

but

che?

In other words, I am not sure what angle you are getting at.

While you attempt to make clear for me....just let me say that I thought all entrants would have to be members of affiliated Clubs. (OMG, that makes it a CLOSE championship maybe.

).
In fact the entry form requires the applicant to nominate which Club he is a member of. (So, I am thinking perhaps you have not read the entry form section...?)

Disclaimer: At the ready to assist you in your status as a regular poster

MOZ

**MOZ** · 08-27-2008, 01:56 AM

Will the Championship T.O. put out an amended schedule and will it allow further peregrination.

**KiD** · 08-28-2008, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

It is hard to see any trend in recent years that would support the chance.

I wonder if begging and grovelling will help.

**Firegoat7** · 08-28-2008, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Err, um, ah....

In other words, I am not sure what angle you are getting at.

Lol, oh no I really am not angle shooting.

Originally Posted by MOZ

While you attempt to make clear for me....just let me say that I thought all entrants would have to be members of affiliated Clubs. (OMG, that makes it a CLOSE championship maybe. ).

Well the first link says "...Open to members of CV affiliated chess clubs born in 1948 or earlier" and "...Open to female members of CV affiliated chess clubs." Yet no other mention for other tournaments.

Originally Posted by MOZ

In fact the entry form requires the applicant to nominate which Club he is a member of. (So, I am thinking perhaps you have not read the entry form section...?)

Upon further inspection, I do see this area on the entry form. I wonder if playing in the Championship does require a member to really belong to a club? Maybe its just a feel good statement that is never enforced as a rule. For example, I couldn't see anyone not letting a player of the calibre of David Smerdon play in the event. But on the other hand, has David ever been a member of any Victorian chess club? And what about some of the more transient local stars like a David Hacche or a Michael Baron? Don't these guys fall into the individual player category?

cheers,

**MOZ** · 08-28-2008, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

Lol, oh no I really am not angle shooting.

I would never suspect you of angle shooting.
I genuinely did not get the post, so I used my own interpretation.

Well the first link says "...Open to members of CV affiliated chess clubs born in 1948 or earlier" and "...Open to female members of CV affiliated chess clubs." Yet no other mention for other tournaments.

The weibye-meister says this was a drafting chichi.

Upon further inspection, I do see this area on the entry form. I wonder if playing in the Championship does require a member to really belong to a club?

Ah. Now we are on the same wavelength.
Yes, it is enforced.

Maybe its just a feel good statement that is never enforced as a rule. For example, I couldn't see anyone not letting a player of the calibre of David Smerdon play in the event.

What we do is seek out a well-heeled supporter and get him to sponsor the membership. We have a 100% success-rate. It was what we offered in the AUS. OPEN proposal (for Mexicans).

But on the other hand, has David ever been a member of any Victorian chess club? And what about some of the more transient local stars like a David Hacche

He is a member of CJCC.

or a Michael Baron?

There are limits.

Has he ever entered?

Don't these guys fall into the individual player category?

cheers,

Hypothetical.

regards
MOZ

**KiD** · 09-04-2008, 11:06 AM

Does anyone have any encouraging updates? What's the interest so far?

**MOZ** · 09-04-2008, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by KiD

Does anyone have any encouraging updates? What's the interest so far?

I have paid entries from
Malcolm Pyke
Vic Kildisas
Douglas Lindberg

The Sandman says he has entries from a few.

The Saturday playing options have caused a few to have clashes with the schedule.

MOZ

**KiD** · 09-05-2008, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

I have paid entries from
Malcolm Pyke
Vic Kildisas
Douglas Lindberg

The Sandman says he has entries from a few.

I suppose the positive thing is, even at this early stage, it looks like participation for this year will be better than last year.

Can we assume that the automatic entrants (Rujevic, Goldenberg, and Schon) are playing?

**Leonid Sandler** · 09-06-2008, 01:46 AM

The following players have expressed interest to play in Victorian Championship 2008
I.Goldenberg,M.Rujevic,D.Dragisevic,L.Sandler,S.An ton,C.Gorka,N.Szuveges
E.Levi has officially entered the event together with M.Pyke,D.Lindberg and V.Kildisas.
E.Schon who has qualified from last year will be playing in World Junior Championship in Vietnam in October and might not be able to compete in Victorian Championship 2008.
We are hoping that many more players will enter before deadline September 20th.

**MOZ** · 09-08-2008, 09:36 PM

Entry from Omar Khaled Bashar now received.

**KiD** · 09-14-2008, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Entry from Omar Khaled Bashar now received.

Have you got an updated list of entires to-date? Both for the Championships and Reserve?

08-16-2008, 10:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
MOZ Figurehead absolute. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In the Margin Posts: 1,060	2008 Victorian Championship The Chess Victoria web-site has a page devoted to the 2008 Victorian Championship. First paid entry was received last night by the Treasurer. Entry forms were available at the INTERCLUB competition. Or download from the linked web-page. __________________ I support the right to vote for moderators.

08-26-2008, 12:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
MOZ Figurehead absolute. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In the Margin Posts: 1,060	Originally Posted by KiD Can you dangle some names yet? The Tournament Director 'dangled' a few in a phone conversation to me; but you know what Treasurers are like, , they only count when the money is on the table. So, 1 it is to date. Any chance for the Vic Champs to be anywhere near as strong as the current NSW Champs? It is hard to see any trend in recent years that would support the chance. MOZ __________________ I support the right to vote for moderators.

08-26-2008, 09:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Playing backyard cricket Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: somewhere in virtual reality Posts: 605	Hi Moz, I have a curious question. Why do senior and female entrants in their respective events have to be affiliated with CV clubs but others not? cheers Fg7 __________________ "...A thorough knowledge of the elements takes us more than half the road to mastership" - Aron Nimzowitsch

08-26-2008, 09:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
MOZ Figurehead absolute. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In the Margin Posts: 1,060	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 Hi Moz, I have a curious question. Why do senior and female entrants in their respective events have to be affiliated with CV clubs but others not? cheers Fg7 Err, um, ah.... I would like to help you but che? In other words, I am not sure what angle you are getting at. While you attempt to make clear for me....just let me say that I thought all entrants would have to be members of affiliated Clubs. (OMG, that makes it a CLOSE championship maybe. ). In fact the entry form requires the applicant to nominate which Club he is a member of. (So, I am thinking perhaps you have not read the entry form section...?) Disclaimer: At the ready to assist you in your status as a regular poster MOZ __________________ I support the right to vote for moderators.

08-27-2008, 01:56 AM	#6 (permalink)
MOZ Figurehead absolute. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In the Margin Posts: 1,060	Clashes on Saturday. Will the Championship T.O. put out an amended schedule and will it allow further peregrination. __________________ I support the right to vote for moderators.

08-26-2008, 11:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
KiD Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 84	Can you dangle some names yet? Any chance for the Vic Champs to be anywhere near as strong as the current NSW Champs?

08-28-2008, 12:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
KiD Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 84	Originally Posted by MOZ It is hard to see any trend in recent years that would support the chance. I wonder if begging and grovelling will help.

08-28-2008, 12:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Playing backyard cricket Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: somewhere in virtual reality Posts: 605	Originally Posted by MOZ Err, um, ah.... In other words, I am not sure what angle you are getting at. Lol, oh no I really am not angle shooting. Originally Posted by MOZ While you attempt to make clear for me....just let me say that I thought all entrants would have to be members of affiliated Clubs. (OMG, that makes it a CLOSE championship maybe. ). Well the first link says "...Open to members of CV affiliated chess clubs born in 1948 or earlier" and "...Open to female members of CV affiliated chess clubs." Yet no other mention for other tournaments. Originally Posted by MOZ In fact the entry form requires the applicant to nominate which Club he is a member of. (So, I am thinking perhaps you have not read the entry form section...?) Upon further inspection, I do see this area on the entry form. I wonder if playing in the Championship does require a member to really belong to a club? Maybe its just a feel good statement that is never enforced as a rule. For example, I couldn't see anyone not letting a player of the calibre of David Smerdon play in the event. But on the other hand, has David ever been a member of any Victorian chess club? And what about some of the more transient local stars like a David Hacche or a Michael Baron? Don't these guys fall into the individual player category? cheers, __________________ "...A thorough knowledge of the elements takes us more than half the road to mastership" - Aron Nimzowitsch

08-28-2008, 04:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
MOZ Figurehead absolute. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In the Margin Posts: 1,060	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 Lol, oh no I really am not angle shooting. I would never suspect you of angle shooting. I genuinely did not get the post, so I used my own interpretation. Well the first link says "...Open to members of CV affiliated chess clubs born in 1948 or earlier" and "...Open to female members of CV affiliated chess clubs." Yet no other mention for other tournaments. The weibye-meister says this was a drafting chichi. Upon further inspection, I do see this area on the entry form. I wonder if playing in the Championship does require a member to really belong to a club? Ah. Now we are on the same wavelength. Yes, it is enforced. Maybe its just a feel good statement that is never enforced as a rule. For example, I couldn't see anyone not letting a player of the calibre of David Smerdon play in the event. What we do is seek out a well-heeled supporter and get him to sponsor the membership. We have a 100% success-rate. It was what we offered in the AUS. OPEN proposal (for Mexicans). But on the other hand, has David ever been a member of any Victorian chess club? And what about some of the more transient local stars like a David Hacche He is a member of CJCC. or a Michael Baron? There are limits. Has he ever entered? Don't these guys fall into the individual player category? cheers, Hypothetical. regards MOZ __________________ I support the right to vote for moderators.

09-04-2008, 11:06 AM	#10 (permalink)
KiD Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 84	Does anyone have any encouraging updates? What's the interest so far?

09-04-2008, 12:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
MOZ Figurehead absolute. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In the Margin Posts: 1,060	Originally Posted by KiD Does anyone have any encouraging updates? What's the interest so far? I have paid entries from Malcolm Pyke Vic Kildisas Douglas Lindberg The Sandman says he has entries from a few. The Saturday playing options have caused a few to have clashes with the schedule. MOZ __________________ I support the right to vote for moderators.

09-05-2008, 09:17 PM	#12 (permalink)
KiD Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 84	Originally Posted by MOZ I have paid entries from Malcolm Pyke Vic Kildisas Douglas Lindberg The Sandman says he has entries from a few. I suppose the positive thing is, even at this early stage, it looks like participation for this year will be better than last year. Can we assume that the automatic entrants (Rujevic, Goldenberg, and Schon) are playing?

09-06-2008, 01:46 AM	#13 (permalink)
Leonid Sandler Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 15	Victorian Championship 2008 The following players have expressed interest to play in Victorian Championship 2008 I.Goldenberg,M.Rujevic,D.Dragisevic,L.Sandler,S.An ton,C.Gorka,N.Szuveges E.Levi has officially entered the event together with M.Pyke,D.Lindberg and V.Kildisas. E.Schon who has qualified from last year will be playing in World Junior Championship in Vietnam in October and might not be able to compete in Victorian Championship 2008. We are hoping that many more players will enter before deadline September 20th.

09-08-2008, 09:36 PM	#14 (permalink)
MOZ Figurehead absolute. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In the Margin Posts: 1,060	Entry from Omar Khaled Bashar now received. __________________ I support the right to vote for moderators.

09-14-2008, 07:44 PM	#15 (permalink)
KiD Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 84	Originally Posted by MOZ Entry from Omar Khaled Bashar now received. Have you got an updated list of entires to-date? Both for the Championships and Reserve?

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