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Old 07-26-2011, 09:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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More tournaments, more prizes, more opportunities!

In 2012, our Grand Prix will be made up of our 5 Monday evening FIDE rated tournaments, as well as our 4 FIDE rated weekend events, giving players 9 tournaments from which to score their grand prix points! A player’s scores from all 9 events will add up to form their grand prix score at the end of the year. The tournaments included are:

Australia Day Weekender: 7 rounds (Jan 26th – Jan 29th)
MCC Club Championship: 9 rounds (Feb 6th – Apr 16th)
ANZAC Day Weekender: 7 rounds (Apr 21st – Apr 25th)
City Of Melbourne Open: 9 rounds (Apr 30th – Jul 2nd)
Edwin Malitis Memorial: 7 rounds (Jul 16th – Aug 27th)
MCC Open: 9 rounds (Sep 10th – Nov 12th)
MCC Cup Weekender: 9 rounds (Nov 2nd – Nov 6th)
Bob Brooking Round Robins: 5 rounds (Nov 19th – Dec 17th)
Christmas Swiss: 6 rounds (Dec 14th – Dec 16th)

Every point a player scores in any of these events, equals a grand prix point, for example if a player scores 5.5 points in the club championship and 4 points in the City of Melbourne, they will have accumulated 9.5 points over the two events. At the end of the year, the players with the highest number of points will win the grand prix prizes.

PRIZE POOL:

1st, $400
2nd, $200
3rd, $150
4th, $100
5th, $70
6th, $50
7th, $30




1st under 1800, $350
2nd under 1800, $200
3rd under 1800, $150
4th under 1800, $100
5th under 1800, $50

1st under 1500, $350
2nd under 1500, $200
3rd under 1500, $150
4th under 1500, $100
5th under 1500, $50

The rating used all year for grand prix purposes will be the players ACF rating on January 26th (the first day of the Australia Day Weekender). Players can only win one prize.

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Old 07-26-2011, 09:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Since our grand prix has been extremely successful in its first year, we have decided to extend it in 2012 to include more tournaments and thus more prizes. We now have 7 prizes in the open section and 5 in each of the two groups. 1st, 2nd and 3rd prizes have all increased significantly.

2012 will be a better time than ever to play in MCC events, with 9 opportunities to grab the points!
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Hey Grant,

so are scores from all tournaments we play added up (even if we play all 9) or will we get our best scores from 5 tournaments?

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Encourage arbiters....make it best 6 scores!!

I am happy to play in 6 tournaments and be arbiter of 3 during the year, but I get no GP favours if all 9 scores count. Therefore, why should I, or anyone else, take on the role of being arbiter, an issue that has been fundamental to the MCC since I started on the committee 2 and a half years ago.
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I agree with Carl! Plus, the idea is to encourage entries and you'll encourage less if people feel they need to play all 9 to stand a chance.
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I agree with Paul! That is currently a majority of 2 v 1...we win!!! Yay!!!
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I agree with Paul! That is currently a majority of 2 v 1...we win!!! Yay!!!
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Encourage arbiters....make it best 6 scores!!

I am happy to play in 6 tournaments and be arbiter of 3 during the year, but I get no GP favours if all 9 scores count. Therefore, why should I, or anyone else, take on the role of being arbiter, an issue that has been fundamental to the MCC since I started on the committee 2 and a half years ago.
Carl and Paul,

I certainly hear what you are saying and feel for your position! But part of the idea of extending the grand prix is to reward people for playing as often as possible in MCC events (thats actually the whole purpose of having a grand prix at all).

That said though, Ive just worked out some stats which may make you feel a bit better!

Ive had a look at the 5 of these events which have already been played in 2011 (Aust Day, Club Champs, ANZAC Day, MCC Open, Malitis Mem). Of the 91 players who played in these events, only 2 of them have played in all 5! (John Dowling and Gary Bekker). And only 1 of them has played in 4 of the 5 (Kerry Stead)... That means that 88 of 91 players (97%) have played in 3/5 (60%) or less of all MCC grand prix events! Therefore if you play in 6 of the 9 events (66%), even with these rules, you will still be playing more than 97% of players (if the trend continues like this)...

In real terms, basically most players either play in the weekenders or the Monday night events - not many people play in both. Extending the Grand Prix is a way of trying to get people (from both groups) to play in both! If we get 10 "Monday night players" regularly into our weekenders and 10 "weekend players" playing on Monday nights, then it will be a great result for the club!

I just checked and only 14 of the remaining 88 players (16% of total) even played in 3 of the 5 events - so there is no need to restrict it to someones best 6 results.
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Carl and Paul,

I certainly hear what you are saying and feel for your position! But part of the idea of extending the grand prix is to reward people for playing as often as possible in MCC events (thats actually the whole purpose of having a grand prix at all).

That said though, Ive just worked out some stats which may make you feel a bit better!

Ive had a look at the 5 of these events which have already been played in 2011 (Aust Day, Club Champs, ANZAC Day, MCC Open, Malitis Mem). Of the 91 players who played in these events, only 2 of them have played in all 5! (John Dowling and Gary Bekker). And only 1 of them has played in 4 of the 5 (Kerry Stead)... That means that 88 of 91 players (97%) have played in 3/5 (60%) or less of all MCC grand prix events! Therefore if you play in 6 of the 9 events (66%), even with these rules, you will still be playing more than 97% of players (if the trend continues like this)...

In real terms, basically most players either play in the weekenders or the Monday night events - not many people play in both. Extending the Grand Prix is a way of trying to get people (from both groups) to play in both! If we get 10 "Monday night players" regularly into our weekenders and 10 "weekend players" playing on Monday nights, then it will be a great result for the club!

I just checked and only 14 of the remaining 88 players (16% of total) even played in 3 of the 5 events - so there is no need to restrict it to someones best 6 results.
Grant, what I am actually saying is that with this added incentive to be a player, I will probably not be an arbiter at all next year for any tournaments. Now considering the difficulty with finding arbiters for Monday night events (I have already been arbiter of 2 of the Monday night events, and will probably do a third), that leaves things pretty tight at the MCC.

If the GP allowed for some bad scores to be discarded, or for players to not have to play all the tournaments, then I will certainly plan to do both jobs, and I guess that will be the same for others.

Making it 6 or 7 events, still means that players have to play both weekenders and Monday night events to fill all their slots, and some will play all the tournaments if they have bad events.
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A subsequent effect of the Grand Prix is to penalise players who volunteer their time and efforts to be arbiters of tournaments thus discouraging them from doing this important job.

I'll give you some statistics from my own personal point of view: I intend to play in the Aus Day Weekender, and will probably play ANZAC day as it doesn't fall too close to Easter this year. I will try to play Cup Weekender again, and I would like to play 2 tournaments on Monday nights and be arbiter of 3. If I needed 6 scores to count, then I would make the effort to play in the Christmas Swiss. If all 9 scores count, then I will either not bother with most of the weekenders OR not be an arbiter at all for the year.

One reason Monday nights are going well is because the tournaments have run smoothly, with neither myself nor Peter Tsai having had any complaints about the jobs we've done. Arbiters are important, and the MCC has a lack of them. I am the only willing arbiter at the club for Monday nights (and I do it for free!), and if the GP goes ahead in the format you propose I will seriously have to consider whether I am going to carry on in that role.
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Hey Grant,

I think that idea will inspire 4 or 5 players to play 9 tournaments next year, whereas the idea of the GP in my view should be to get 20 people to play 5 or 6 or whatever you set the # at.

Thoughts!?

(I'm irrelevant anyhow as i'll be eating prime rib in Argentina next year... but whatever!)
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Hey Grant,

I think that idea will inspire 4 or 5 players to play 9 tournaments next year, whereas the idea of the GP in my view should be to get 20 people to play 5 or 6 or whatever you set the # at.

Thoughts!?

(I'm irrelevant anyhow as i'll be eating prime rib in Argentina next year... but whatever!)
The tournaments could be a disaster if there are no arbiters to run them
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FM Michael Baron is leading the grand prix after winning the first event (the MCC Australia Day Weekender)! That is 6 valuable points towards his final score! The players playing in the upcoming Club Championship who also played in this event will boost their standings by having played on Australia Day... Gorka, Urban, Ari Dale, Beaumont and Lycett are all set to play in the Club Champs and their points scored here will mean that a reasonable score in the Club Champs will put them in a very good position going into the third event of the year! An excellent score in the Club Champs will mean that they will be doing very well indeed! Here are the full results so far:

OPEN SECTION

6.0 Michael BARON (FM)
5.0 Patrick SCHARRER (FM)
5.0 Ari DALE
5.0 Max CHEW LEE
4.5 Jack PUCCINI
4.0 Carl GORKA
4.0 Sylvester URBAN
4.0 Gary LYCETT

UNDER 1800

5.0 Max CHEW LEE
4.5 Jack PUCCINI
4.0 Mario PALMA
4.0 Jimmy YING
4.0 Finley DALE
3.5 Rad CHMIEL
3.5 Gary BEKKER
3.0 Joseph WONG

UNDER 1500

4.5 Jack PUCCINI
4.0 Finley DALE
3.5 Jason CHEW
3.0 Ruben NOWAK
3.0 Anthony HARRIS
2.5 Tristan KRSTEVSKI
2.5 Jack HUGHES
2.5 James BRENNAN
2.5 Tanya KOLAK
2.5 Brad ASHLOCK
2.0 Oscar PEARCE
0.5 Amelia MENDES
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My tips:

Open:

1. James Morris
2. Domagoj
3. Mirko
4. Carl
5. Malcom
6. THE FIRE
7. Franky J Lekkas

u/1800:
1. Lycett
2. Voon
3. Rad Chmiel!

U/1500:
1. Puccini
2. Jack Hughes!
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Players who have played in both of the first two events are now in the lead in the 2012 MCC Grand Prix - with Ari Dale, Sylvester Urban and David Beaumont leading the charge with 10 points, closely followed by Carl Gorka and Gary Lycett! Despite playing in only one event, Dusan Stojic and Guy West were so dominant in that event (the MCC Club Championship) that they are breathing down the leaders necks already!!! Rad Chmiel and Finley Dale are in the lead in the Under 1800 section while Finley is also leading the Under 1500 too!!! 3 of the top 5 Under 1800s are also elegible for the Under 1500, so it is all being very closely fought! Get down to MCC this weekend for the third event in the MCC Grand Prix - the MCC ANZAC Day Weekender. 7 points are up for grabs for anyone who is good enough to win them!

OPEN SECTION

10.0 Ari DALE
10.0 Sylvester URBAN
10.0 David BEAUMONT
9.5 Carl GORKA
9.0 Gary LYCETT
8.0 Dusan STOJIC (FM)
8.0 Guy WEST (IM)
6.5 Chris WALLIS (FM)
6.5 Laurent MICHAILLE
6.0 Michael BARON (FM)
6.0 Mirko RUJEVIC (IM)
6.0 Karl ZELESCO
5.5 Domagoj DRAGICEVIC (FM)
5.5 John DOWLING
5.5 Richard VOON
5.5 Bosko MIJATOVIC
5.0 Patrick SCHARRER (FM)
5.0 Justin PENROSE
4.5 Pano SKIOTIS
4.5 Malcolm PYKE
3.5 Felix WYSS
3.5 Thai LY
3.5 Andrew SAINT

UNDER 1800

8.0 Rad CHMIEL
8.0 Finley DALE
7.5 Jason CHEW
7.0 Gary BEKKER
6.5 Anthony HARRIS
5.5 Sarah ANTON
5.0 Max CHEW - LEE
5.0 Anthony HAIN
4.5 Jim PAPADINIS
4.5 Richard McCART
4.5 Marcus OGDEN
4.5 Alex KAPLAN
4.5 Bill REID
4.5 Kevin BROWN
4.0 Mario PALMA
4.0 Jimmy YING
4.0 Paul KOVACEVIC
4.0 Roger BEATTIE
3.5 John BECKMAN
3.5 Roger McCART
3.0 Joseph WONG
3.0 Jamie MARTIN
0.5 David LACEY

UNDER 1500

8.0 Finley DALE
7.5 Jason CHEW
6.5 Anthony HARRIS
6.0 Brad ASHLOCK
5.5 Tanya KOLAK
4.5 Jack PUCCINI
4.0 Oscar PEARCE
3.5 James BRENNAN
3.5 Charlotte DILNUTT
3.0 Ruben NOWAK
3.0 Ben FRAYLE
2.5 Tristan KRSTEVSKI
2.5 Jack HUGHES
2.5 Adam LOVEGROVE
1.0 Will HEYWARD
0.5 Amelia MENDES
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