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2011 BOX HILL MASTERS Invitational.
FIDE rated Players: Player selection by invitation following expressions of interest. Min. 4 FIDE rated players, max. 6 non FIDE rated players. Starting time: Tuesdays 7.45 PM sharp. Rate of Play: 90 minutes per game + 30 sec. per move from move 1 Note: with this time-control the player is obliged to score until the end. Entry fees:
Prize fund: First $100 Second $50 Note that it is an absolute FIDE requirement for the ratings that all games are played and no forfeits can be given or received. Postponements: Postponements should be arranged between players on the following Wednesdays starting at 7.45 Or on the following Friday starting at 7.45 Or at other clubs by prior arrangement The arbiter must be informed at all times. All postponed games must be played before the final round and players unable to attend the final round must play the game in advance. Arbiter: To be advised Tournament: A 10 player round robin tournament, with players position in the draw decided by lot. Ballot: The ballot for numbers in the draw will be held on Sunday July 17 after the completion of the Sunday coaching. Players are welcome to attend but are not required to be there. The pairings will be up on the BHCC website the next day. Disputes: In case of a dispute the president of the Club will appoint a disputes committee. Playing schedule: Round 1 July 19 at 7.45. Round 2 July 26 at 7.45. Round 3 August 2 at 7.45. Round 4 August 16 at 7.45 Round 5 August 23 at 7.45 Round 6 August 30 at 7.45 Round 7 September 6 at 7.45 Round 8 September 20 at 7.45 Round 9 September 27 at 7.45 Note Club closed nights August 9, September 13 Tournament manager: David Flude email davidflude@pacific.net.au Telephone: 9 898 5031 EXPRESSION OF INTEREST FORM 2011 Box Hill Masters name ... address . Post code ... E-mail tel. No .... Entry fee .. 2011 BOX HILL MASTERS A FIDE rated round robin tournament
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This FIDE rated Round Robin tournament is filling fast.
This is a round robin tournament with ten players. As at today we have six confirmed entrants (all with existing FIDE ratings) and two more players are exceedingly likely to enter over the next few days. Both the prospective entrants are strong players. Furthermore we have two emergencies. So get your applications in fast or risk missing out. For details see the previous posting.
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Will the round robin tournament be played here?
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Yes it will be held at the venue displayed in the previous posting.
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Hi,
I don't like to criticise any chess club because I know they are the backbone of chess in Victoria. However, I would like to point out, from a personal player perspective, that when a chess club is taking a rake of a minimum of 62.5%, that it makes the tournament very unappealing for a player with a Fide rating. I understand that round robins present unique problems in regards to costs and funding. 20% rake seems the norm for a big swiss, and whilst this may not be practically possible for a round robin, it ought to at least be a rough guide. Opinions?
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7
hi fg7
First let me say that you will have made the Flavid Dude very excited by the appearance of your post. This year, 2011, will be the second time he acted as Tournament Organiser of the BH Masters Invitational. For the event to have attracted your potential interest is quite unexpected. I am sure there are some who thought you were rusted-on MCC events rather than participating in an Invitational out in the 'burbs'. Your post prompted me to look at the same event in 2010 (where 90% of the field were already FIDE-rated), and 2009 (where 90% of the A field and 60% of the B field were already FIDE-rated) before the event started. I think this evidence shows a solid core of already-FIDE_rated players do show confirmed interest in the event. And matey, your use of the word 'rake'... hey, this is a chess tournament, not a poker tournament with some dealer confiscating a house percentage. At BHCC/CJCC, these events are run by unpaid volunteers. Now, a question back to you: how much would MCC charge you and your two youngsters for annual membership. At CJCC, the family membership is $70 all up....covers all 3. As Bunnings shows by their display, there are rakes, and then again there are RAKES. ![]() regards MOZ*
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Originally Posted by MOZ
Well I did get to your club 4 or 5 times last year and was very impressed with its organisation. Besides my eldest son has fond memories of success there.
Originally Posted by MOZ
Well I guess the format works practically, which is always an important lesson for everybody. I am slightly curious about the ratings of the Fide players. I would almost be a 100% possibility if there was an extra $150 in prize money. I am just pointing out that $60 entry for a second placed $50 reward seems unappealing to me. It obviously works for other players. Furthermore, I am looking to play a bit of Fide Rated chess for various reasons.
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Sorry if I offended, but It wasn't meant that way. I think some chess organisers seem to think that a poker tournament and a chess tournament are not similar. When in reality they are very similar in structure. Players pay to play, organisers take an organising fee (the rake) and prizes are awarded.
You make an interesting point. Probably best discussed in another thread. For what its worth I look at MCC charges as value in regards to being open 7 days a week because I attend probably 3 or 4 days.
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7
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Originally Posted by Firegoat7
The tournament is structured for those who want to update their FIDE_rating. We only try to cover costs roughly.
If you have an ambition to win bigger time then you would need to aim for one of our FIDE_rated SWISSES.
Originally Posted by Firegoat7
This particular event just basically covers costs.
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I was not asking a value-for-money question.
A single metric answer would have done. \wink. Room for it on this thread here >> ______________________________ | .................................................. ......| | .................................................. ......| | $ ... ..................................................| |_____________________________| With respect and regards to you MOZ*
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The field at present is as follows with more entries expected over the next few days. So enter now or risk missing out.o
NAME FIDE RATING Enoch Fan 1803 Karl Zelesco 1843 Max Chew Lee 1528 Octavio Martinez 1888 Marcus Raine 2027 Shane Lawson 1806 Jamie Kenmure 1787 The Director of Play is Roger Croft. David Flude is first emergency.
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Two games were decided last week; both of which we were able to see live via the DGT display on the Box Hill web-site.
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1 D'Onofrio, Gus 1566 [0] : Narenthran, Tharmaratnam 2014 1874 [0] 2 Zelesco, Karl 2013 2038 [0] : Narenthran, Savithri 1693 1425 [0] 3 Chew Lee, Max 1600 1465 [0] 1:0 Hayman, Adam 1672 1561 [0] 4 Raine, Marcus 2046 2000 [0] .5:.5 Martinez, Octavio 1780 [0] 5 Fan, Enoch 1606 [0] : Jordan, Bill 2275 2256 [0]
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(Round 2)
1. Barnick,Robert : Jordan, Bill 2. Zelesco, Karl : Flude, David 3. Martinez , Octavio : Fan, Enoch 4. Hayman, Adam : Raine, Marcus 5. Chew Lee, Max : D'onforio, Gus
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Our web master, Shaun Fielder has set up this tournament on the Box Hill web page.
Direct link 2011 Box Hill Masters (FIDE Rated) It shows -standings - cross table - draw and results for all rounds.
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1 Bartnik, Robert (10) 1559 [1.5] 1:0 Hayman, Adam (8) 1672 1561 [.5]
2 Flude, David (9) 1790 1713 [.5] 1:0 Martinez, Octavio (7) 1881 1780 [3.5] 3 D'Onofrio, Gus (1) 1566 [1] 0:1 Jordan, Bill (6) 2275 2256 [4] 4 Zelesco, Karl (2) 2013 2038 [2.5] 0:1 Fan, Enoch (5) 1606 [3] 5 Chew Lee, Max (3) 1600 1465 [3] .5:.5 Raine, Marcus (4) 2046 2000 [3.5]
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Code:
Place Name Rtg Loc Score GP
1 Jordan, Bill 2275 2256 7.5 1000.00
2-3 Raine, Marcus 2046 2000 6 833.50
Bartnik, Robert 1559 6 833.50
4 Zelesco, Karl 2013 2038 5.5 667.00
5-6 Martinez, Octavio 1881 1780 5 500.50
Fan, Enoch 1606 5 500.50
7 Chew Lee, Max 1600 1465 4 334.00
8 Flude, David 1790 1713 3 223.00
9 D'Onofrio, Gus 1566 2 112.00
10 Hayman, Adam 1672 1561 1 1.00
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