The Tasmanian Champioships Hobart - OzChess

**phild707** · 03-08-2010, 01:37 PM

Maybe a bit late to start a thread on the Tasmanian Championships in Hobart however the antics of our favourite chesschat moderator are pretty amusing and worth a comment.

He seems to be staggering from one blooper to another since the Junior Nationals in Hobart.
Maybe all that "work" that he did has had an impact on his ability to think coherently.

In his latest howler he asserts that Marcus Bretag going into the 7th (and final) round of the Tas Championship can somehow get to a shared 1st place.

"If Alastair loses then Marcus Bretag and David Small can get into tie for first by winning provided Dowden and Frame do not win. So it's fairly complicated."

The top two boards being played today are given as

" 1 Dyer, Alastair [5] : Lovejoy, David [4.5]
2 Bretag, Marcus [4] : Dowden, Tony [4.5]"

Yes it certainly does seem to be "complicated", at least too much so for poor old Kevin to work out!
Oh wait a minute, I get it now, Dyer and Lovejoy could have a double forfeit!!

Not surprisingly Kevin's current mental frailty is in evidence over the board as well as he faces a tough opponent this am and will finish with a sub-50% score in prospect if he loses that one.

BTW I have also heard a rumour that he was defeated by Vincent Horton at the recent Launceston tournament.
Wouldn't really be so surprising as young Vinnie is underrated however I have noticed that KBs latest avatar is bunny with 19...Qxh7# on it.
Can't help wondering if this is a coy reference to his being checkmated by a junior??
If so, then remember confession is good for the soul!

Sorry to gloat a bit but really when I think of the many times that I and others were ridiculed for having poor memories it seems that poor old KB has been busy hoisting himself by his own petard of late.

It has been a good strong tournament by Tasmanian standards. Looking forward to hearing if Alastair can win it outright later today. He won the title last year jointly in a three way tie with Tony Dowden and Neil Markovitz.

Go Alastair
(and Go KB too on that last game. I would hate to see a grown man cry

)

Phil.

**phild707** · 03-08-2010, 03:38 PM

Great news from Hobart.
Alastair Dyer drew his final game which was enough to secure the title of Tas Champion outright and Kevin managed to pull off an unlikely draw with Small (rated 2053) to finish on an impressive 50% score

Well done everyone including Marcus Bretag and David Lovejoy who finished tied in 2nd place (but it would seem didn't actually get a prize?).

Kevin has assured everyone that there is nothing wrong with his Maths. The English needs some work though it would appear.

No confirmation/denial at this point in time on the encounter with Vincent Horton.

Phil.

**Just2Good** · 03-08-2010, 03:44 PM

Great Post Phil!

As usual, dead on the mark. I loved it!

**Bill Gletsos** · 03-08-2010, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by phild707

.... Kevin managed to pull off an unlikely draw with Lovejoy (rated 2053) to finish on an impressive 50% score

This is just plain and simply wrong.
Kevin drew with Small in the last round to finish on 50%.

Originally Posted by phild707

Well done everyone including Marcus Bretag and David Lovejoy who finished tied in 2nd place (but it would seem didn't actually get a prize?).

This is also wrong.
He may have been ineligible for the title but that does not mean he does not get any prize money.
He shared in the prize money for 2nd.

**phild707** · 03-08-2010, 04:32 PM

Thanks for the correction Bill.

Pleased to hear that the 2-3rd placegetters got prize money.

Phil.

**phild707** · 03-08-2010, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Great Post Phil!

As usual, dead on the mark. I loved it!

Thanks Alex.

Unfortunately our illustrious chesschat arbiter has gone to ground in his detox filthbox to lick his wounds with his cronies there.
As I make a point of never going to that den of iniquity I won't hear further details of the game with Vinnie, at least not directly.

Though I can now confirm that Vincent did defeat Kevin at Launceston but for some odd reason the game wasn't posted on the tournament thread??
(All the other gamers were)

Phil.

**Just2Good** · 03-08-2010, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by phild707

Thanks Alex.

Unfortunately our illustrious chesschat arbiter has gone to ground in his detox filthbox to lick his wounds with his cronies there.
As I make a point of never going to that den of iniquity I won't hear further details of the game with Vinnie, at least not directly.

Though I can now confirm that Vincent did defeat Kevin at Launceston but for some odd reason the game wasn't posted on the tournament thread??
(All the other gamers were)

Phil.

Yes, the game wasn't posted because he probably doesn't want his nose rubbed in it!

**Bill Gletsos** · 03-08-2010, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

Yes, the game wasn't posted because he probably doesn't want his nose rubbed in it!

You lot are just hopeless.

The game was posted as post #193 in the thread here and was in fact posted before all the other games in the Launceston thread.

**phild707** · 03-09-2010, 07:45 PM

"Hopeless"

I think you are being a bit tough on us Bill.

The full story (which you have neglected to mention) is that the game was NOT published in the tournament thread with Kevin's other efforts.
Instead it was posted quietly in an obscure corner of cc.

I note that the only reference to the game in the tournament thread was made by someone other than Kevin.

Seems like a pretty clear case of Kevin trying to fly under the radar to me.
Unfortunately, as is usually the case, the truth will out.
I always think that it's better to be up front and manly about it when you stuff up.

Phil.

**Bill Gletsos** · 03-09-2010, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by phild707

"Hopeless"
I think you are being a bit tough on us Bill.

The full story (which you have neglected to mention) is that the game was NOT published in the tournament thread with Kevin's other efforts.
Instead it was posted quietly in an obscure corner of cc.

It might be obscure to you but not to regular posters on chesschat.

**MOZ** · 03-11-2010, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

This is just plain and simply wrong.
Kevin drew with Small in the last round to finish on 50%.

This is also wrong.
He may have been ineligible for the title but that does not mean he does not get any prize money.
He shared in the prize money for 2nd.

Last edited by Bill Gletsos : 03-08-2010 at 04:40 PM. Reason: removed MOZ edit

I edited Bill's post and left a clear indication of the edit by the simple device of typing MOZ*edit: "..............".

BG was apparently shaken from his langour and launched into a didactic response in the Ozchess shoutbox about how this (edit) was a breakthrough use of Ozchess software and represented ...well, not sure just what Bill is going to do about it.
KB could not understand the method used to edit.
BC opined that it was all a mistake about button pushing.

In fact it is just a local use of the generally more advanced software on Ozchess (see for examples: shoutbox detach, and shoutbox corrections and, highlights).
It is not hard to find other occurrences.
Here is one, in this post.
How Competitive Do You Want It To Be?

I did offer to post a link to Kevin's relevant post, somehow. But in the face of AO having already deleted, BG not wanting to be associated with the KB post, and KB not wanting to post it here; I think the writing is on the wall. It is therefore, officially, a disowned post.

**antichrist** · 03-17-2010, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by phild707

"Hopeless"
I think you are being a bit tough on us Bill.

The full story (which you have neglected to mention) is that the game was NOT published in the tournament thread with Kevin's other efforts.
Instead it was posted quietly in an obscure corner of cc.

I note that the only reference to the game in the tournament thread was made by someone other than Kevin.

Seems like a pretty clear case of Kevin trying to fly under the radar to me.
Unfortunately, as is usually the case, the truth will out.
I always think that it's better to be up front and manly about it when you stuff up.

Phil.

But Kev's loss to David Lovejoy was written up with game in Ian Rogers' chess column you can find at Byron Echo www site.

Now Phil admit that it was you who complained about KB's arbiting all those years ago that he so streneously denies.

**Just2Good** · 03-17-2010, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by antichrist

But Kev's loss to David Lovejoy was written up with game in Ian Rogers' chess column you can find at Byron Echo www site.

Thanks only to the clamour we made about it on this website!

03-08-2010, 01:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
phild707 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burnie International Airport Posts: 298	The Tasmanian Champioships Hobart Maybe a bit late to start a thread on the Tasmanian Championships in Hobart however the antics of our favourite chesschat moderator are pretty amusing and worth a comment. He seems to be staggering from one blooper to another since the Junior Nationals in Hobart. Maybe all that "work" that he did has had an impact on his ability to think coherently. In his latest howler he asserts that Marcus Bretag going into the 7th (and final) round of the Tas Championship can somehow get to a shared 1st place. "If Alastair loses then Marcus Bretag and David Small can get into tie for first by winning provided Dowden and Frame do not win. So it's fairly complicated." The top two boards being played today are given as " 1 Dyer, Alastair [5] : Lovejoy, David [4.5] 2 Bretag, Marcus [4] : Dowden, Tony [4.5]" Yes it certainly does seem to be "complicated", at least too much so for poor old Kevin to work out! Oh wait a minute, I get it now, Dyer and Lovejoy could have a double forfeit!! Not surprisingly Kevin's current mental frailty is in evidence over the board as well as he faces a tough opponent this am and will finish with a sub-50% score in prospect if he loses that one. BTW I have also heard a rumour that he was defeated by Vincent Horton at the recent Launceston tournament. Wouldn't really be so surprising as young Vinnie is underrated however I have noticed that KBs latest avatar is bunny with 19...Qxh7# on it. Can't help wondering if this is a coy reference to his being checkmated by a junior?? If so, then remember confession is good for the soul! Sorry to gloat a bit but really when I think of the many times that I and others were ridiculed for having poor memories it seems that poor old KB has been busy hoisting himself by his own petard of late. It has been a good strong tournament by Tasmanian standards. Looking forward to hearing if Alastair can win it outright later today. He won the title last year jointly in a three way tie with Tony Dowden and Neil Markovitz. Go Alastair (and Go KB too on that last game. I would hate to see a grown man cry ) Phil. __________________ "It ain't no sin if you crack a few laws now and then, just so long as you don't break any." Mae West

03-08-2010, 03:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
phild707 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burnie International Airport Posts: 298	Great news from Hobart. Alastair Dyer drew his final game which was enough to secure the title of Tas Champion outright and Kevin managed to pull off an unlikely draw with Small (rated 2053) to finish on an impressive 50% score Well done everyone including Marcus Bretag and David Lovejoy who finished tied in 2nd place (but it would seem didn't actually get a prize?). Kevin has assured everyone that there is nothing wrong with his Maths. The English needs some work though it would appear. No confirmation/denial at this point in time on the encounter with Vincent Horton. Phil. __________________ "It ain't no sin if you crack a few laws now and then, just so long as you don't break any." Mae West Last edited by phild707 : 03-08-2010 at 04:30 PM

03-08-2010, 03:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Great Post Phil! As usual, dead on the mark. I loved it! __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

03-08-2010, 03:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by phild707 .... Kevin managed to pull off an unlikely draw with Lovejoy (rated 2053) to finish on an impressive 50% score This is just plain and simply wrong. Kevin drew with Small in the last round to finish on 50%. Originally Posted by phild707 Well done everyone including Marcus Bretag and David Lovejoy who finished tied in 2nd place (but it would seem didn't actually get a prize?). This is also wrong. He may have been ineligible for the title but that does not mean he does not get any prize money. He shared in the prize money for 2nd. Last edited by Bill Gletsos : 03-08-2010 at 04:40 PM Reason: removed MOZ edit

03-08-2010, 04:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
phild707 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burnie International Airport Posts: 298	Thanks for the correction Bill. Pleased to hear that the 2-3rd placegetters got prize money. Phil. __________________ "It ain't no sin if you crack a few laws now and then, just so long as you don't break any." Mae West

03-08-2010, 04:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
phild707 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burnie International Airport Posts: 298	Originally Posted by Just2Good Great Post Phil! As usual, dead on the mark. I loved it! Thanks Alex. Unfortunately our illustrious chesschat arbiter has gone to ground in his detox filthbox to lick his wounds with his cronies there. As I make a point of never going to that den of iniquity I won't hear further details of the game with Vinnie, at least not directly. Though I can now confirm that Vincent did defeat Kevin at Launceston but for some odd reason the game wasn't posted on the tournament thread?? (All the other gamers were) Phil. __________________ "It ain't no sin if you crack a few laws now and then, just so long as you don't break any." Mae West

03-08-2010, 05:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by phild707 Thanks Alex. Unfortunately our illustrious chesschat arbiter has gone to ground in his detox filthbox to lick his wounds with his cronies there. As I make a point of never going to that den of iniquity I won't hear further details of the game with Vinnie, at least not directly. Though I can now confirm that Vincent did defeat Kevin at Launceston but for some odd reason the game wasn't posted on the tournament thread?? (All the other gamers were) Phil. Yes, the game wasn't posted because he probably doesn't want his nose rubbed in it! __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

03-08-2010, 06:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by Just2Good Yes, the game wasn't posted because he probably doesn't want his nose rubbed in it! You lot are just hopeless. The game was posted as post #193 in the thread here and was in fact posted before all the other games in the Launceston thread.

03-09-2010, 07:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
phild707 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Burnie International Airport Posts: 298	"Hopeless" I think you are being a bit tough on us Bill. The full story (which you have neglected to mention) is that the game was NOT published in the tournament thread with Kevin's other efforts. Instead it was posted quietly in an obscure corner of cc. I note that the only reference to the game in the tournament thread was made by someone other than Kevin. Seems like a pretty clear case of Kevin trying to fly under the radar to me. Unfortunately, as is usually the case, the truth will out. I always think that it's better to be up front and manly about it when you stuff up. Phil. __________________ "It ain't no sin if you crack a few laws now and then, just so long as you don't break any." Mae West

03-09-2010, 08:50 PM	#10 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by phild707 "Hopeless" I think you are being a bit tough on us Bill. The full story (which you have neglected to mention) is that the game was NOT published in the tournament thread with Kevin's other efforts. Instead it was posted quietly in an obscure corner of cc. It might be obscure to you but not to regular posters on chesschat.

03-11-2010, 10:00 AM	#11 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,541	Talk about chesschat ADMINs jumping at shadows. Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos This is just plain and simply wrong. Kevin drew with Small in the last round to finish on 50%. This is also wrong. He may have been ineligible for the title but that does not mean he does not get any prize money. He shared in the prize money for 2nd. Last edited by Bill Gletsos : 03-08-2010 at 04:40 PM. Reason: removed MOZ edit I edited Bill's post and left a clear indication of the edit by the simple device of typing MOZedit: "..............". BG was apparently shaken from his langour and launched into a didactic response in the Ozchess shoutbox about how this (edit) was a breakthrough use of Ozchess software and represented ...well, not sure just what Bill is going to do about it. KB could not understand the method used to edit. BC opined that it was all a mistake about button pushing. In fact it is just a local use of the generally more advanced software on Ozchess (see for examples: shoutbox detach, and shoutbox corrections and, highlights). It is not hard to find other occurrences. Here is one, in this post. How Competitive Do You Want It To Be? I did offer to post a link to Kevin's relevant post, somehow. But in the face of AO having already deleted, BG not wanting to be associated with the KB post, and KB not wanting to post it here; I think the writing is on the wall. It is therefore, officially, a disowned post. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole* game.

03-17-2010, 10:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by phild707 "Hopeless" I think you are being a bit tough on us Bill. The full story (which you have neglected to mention) is that the game was NOT published in the tournament thread with Kevin's other efforts. Instead it was posted quietly in an obscure corner of cc. I note that the only reference to the game in the tournament thread was made by someone other than Kevin. Seems like a pretty clear case of Kevin trying to fly under the radar to me. Unfortunately, as is usually the case, the truth will out. I always think that it's better to be up front and manly about it when you stuff up. Phil. But Kev's loss to David Lovejoy was written up with game in Ian Rogers' chess column you can find at Byron Echo www site. Now Phil admit that it was you who complained about KB's arbiting all those years ago that he so streneously denies.

03-17-2010, 03:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by antichrist But Kev's loss to David Lovejoy was written up with game in Ian Rogers' chess column you can find at Byron Echo www site. Thanks only to the clamour we made about it on this website! __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

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