2009 Victorian Championships - Page 13 - OzChess

**Axiom** · 10-30-2009, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by MOZ

Ah. So I guessed wrong.
Nice question of yours though.

all in a days work for a reality analyst..

**Il cavaliere inesistente** · 10-30-2009, 05:58 PM

The available reserves results have now been updated to include round 6 and can be viewed by following this link 09 Results

**MOZ** · 11-07-2009, 10:16 PM

Championship
Levi-Pyke 1-0
Lindberg-Dragicevic 0-1
Hamilton-Rujevic 1-0
Sandler-Johansen draw
Lee-Kildisas 1-0
Hacche -Morris postponed

Reserves
Toper-Gamage 1-0
Renzies-Beattie 1-0
Hayman-Ivanov draw
Beaumont-Dizdarevic 1-0
Wijesurijia-Flude 0-1

Next round Thursday November 12th at Melbourne Chess Club

Two games from Championship will be played at the different venues

Johansen-Lee -------Monday November 9th at Chess Ideas (Glen Eira Road,Ripponlea)
Starting time 7-30pm

Kldisas-Lindberg ------------Wednesday November 11th at Melbourne Chess Club
Starting time 7-30 pm

Starting time for the last round(Sunday November 15th) at NGV .
The last round starts at 12-00 noon.

**Firegoat7** · 11-07-2009, 10:18 PM

The Benko has to be unsound!

**Lekko** · 11-07-2009, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

The Benko has to be unsound!

You didn't even know the main line before I told you today what it was. It's not, and will never be unsound. There's plenty of compensation for the pawn! What would have happened if you played Bf4 and he played g5!

**Firegoat7** · 11-08-2009, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

You didn't even know the main line before I told you today what it was. It's not, and will never be unsound. There's plenty of compensation for the pawn! What would have happened if you played Bf4 and he played g5!

Now now now, lets not get defensive about the Benko. And rest assured you have a long way to go here grasshopper. I wouldn't necessarily say that its true that I "didn't even know the mainline before I told you today what it was" If we go back last month, I tried to give you guys a little lesson about game theory, which everybody dutifullly ignored. And I gave you some pretty top shelf advice for free at MCC. If you recall I said "...some people will never play a move like g5

cheers,

**Lekko** · 11-08-2009, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

some people will never play a move like g5[/i]

The problem is, some people won't even consider a move like that. As far as I know, that line keeps equal material. And it's not g5, it's g5!

Out of all the people you've played that line against, how many have survived it. You played it against Baron, and completely annihilated him. He didn't play g5!. You now played it against Dizadveric (or however you spell it) and you destroyed him. He didn't play g5!.

Wait wait wait. Out of all the people you've played that line against, how many have played g5! ?

What game theory did I ignore? Everything I use in chess today is from knowledge I've gained from higher rated people (like yourself). In particular, I went and looked into the grunfeld after you showed us it at novice night (and yes, I have used that knowledge in the rare games where I have played 1. d4).

**Firegoat7** · 11-08-2009, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

The problem is, some people won't even consider a move like that. As far as I know, that line keeps equal material. And it's not g5, it's g5!

5. In all fighting, the direct method may be used
for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed
in order to secure victory. Art of War

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

What game theory did I ignore?

....2. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our
own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy
is provided by the enemy himself. Art of War

**Lekko** · 11-08-2009, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

5. In all fighting, the direct method may be used
for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed
in order to secure victory. Art of War

....2. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our
own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy
is provided by the enemy himself. Art of War

What the hell are you on about? Frank Lekkas

justaknight · 11-08-2009, 08:21 PM

GB in case you haven't been informed already, both David Baumont and I have won our postponed games today at MCC!

**Axiom** · 11-08-2009, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

5. In all fighting, the direct method may be used
for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed
in order to secure victory. Art of War

indirect methods ie. asymmetrical warfare , guerrilla warfare .

.....glad to see this from Fire(Mr.Direct)Goat7

"Do it in the road"

**Firegoat7** · 11-09-2009, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid

What the hell are you on about? Frank Lekkas

Chess is so much more then just the board!

Anyway, Back to a sombre note. Does anyone know if the next reserve game is on Thursday at MCC or Saturday at Elwood? The website doesn't give out enough information.

cheers,

**Just2Good** · 11-09-2009, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

Does anyone know if the next reserve game is on Thursday at MCC or Saturday at Elwood?

If a person does not know, should he/she make a post saying this, or just not say/post anything at all?

**Jaydon** · 11-09-2009, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

If a person does not know, should he/she make a post saying this, or just not say/post anything at all?

Good question

**Lekko** · 11-10-2009, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

Chess is so much more then just the board!

Yes, there's the pieces and the clocks as well.

10-30-2009, 05:20 PM	#181 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by MOZ Ah. So I guessed wrong. Nice question of yours though. all in a days work for a reality analyst.. __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

10-30-2009, 05:58 PM	#182 (permalink)
Il cavaliere inesistente Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 196	Reserves result The available reserves results have now been updated to include round 6 and can be viewed by following this link 09 Results

11-07-2009, 10:16 PM	#183 (permalink)
MOZ Volunteer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Ozchess is the marginalised cyber-spot where cc-Mods choose to engage with cc-banned posters. Posts: 3,495	From Elwood today Championship Levi-Pyke 1-0 Lindberg-Dragicevic 0-1 Hamilton-Rujevic 1-0 Sandler-Johansen draw Lee-Kildisas 1-0 Hacche -Morris postponed Reserves Toper-Gamage 1-0 Renzies-Beattie 1-0 Hayman-Ivanov draw Beaumont-Dizdarevic 1-0 Wijesurijia-Flude 0-1 Next round Thursday November 12th at Melbourne Chess Club Two games from Championship will be played at the different venues Johansen-Lee -------Monday November 9th at Chess Ideas (Glen Eira Road,Ripponlea) Starting time 7-30pm Kldisas-Lindberg ------------Wednesday November 11th at Melbourne Chess Club Starting time 7-30 pm Starting time for the last round(Sunday November 15th) at NGV . The last round starts at 12-00 noon. __________________ FReedom though Fischer-Random chess to enjoy the whole game.

11-07-2009, 10:18 PM	#184 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 1,924 ICC Handle: guest	The Benko has to be unsound! __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

11-07-2009, 11:52 PM	#185 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,311 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 The Benko has to be unsound! You didn't even know the main line before I told you today what it was. It's not, and will never be unsound. There's plenty of compensation for the pawn! What would have happened if you played Bf4 and he played g5! __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

11-08-2009, 12:16 AM	#186 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 1,924 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid You didn't even know the main line before I told you today what it was. It's not, and will never be unsound. There's plenty of compensation for the pawn! What would have happened if you played Bf4 and he played g5! Now now now, lets not get defensive about the Benko. And rest assured you have a long way to go here grasshopper. I wouldn't necessarily say that its true that I "didn't even know the mainline before I told you today what it was" If we go back last month, I tried to give you guys a little lesson about game theory, which everybody dutifullly ignored. And I gave you some pretty top shelf advice for free at MCC. If you recall I said "...some people will never play a move like g5 cheers, __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

11-08-2009, 12:25 AM	#187 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,311 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 some people will never play a move like g5[/i] The problem is, some people won't even consider a move like that. As far as I know, that line keeps equal material. And it's not g5, it's g5! Out of all the people you've played that line against, how many have survived it. You played it against Baron, and completely annihilated him. He didn't play g5!. You now played it against Dizadveric (or however you spell it) and you destroyed him. He didn't play g5!. Wait wait wait. Out of all the people you've played that line against, how many have played g5! ? What game theory did I ignore? Everything I use in chess today is from knowledge I've gained from higher rated people (like yourself). In particular, I went and looked into the grunfeld after you showed us it at novice night (and yes, I have used that knowledge in the rare games where I have played 1. d4). __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

11-08-2009, 01:43 AM	#188 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 1,924 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid The problem is, some people won't even consider a move like that. As far as I know, that line keeps equal material. And it's not g5, it's g5! 5. In all fighting, the direct method may be used for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed in order to secure victory. Art of War Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid What game theory did I ignore? ....2. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Art of War __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

11-08-2009, 01:47 AM	#189 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,311 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 5. In all fighting, the direct method may be used for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed in order to secure victory. Art of War ....2. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. Art of War *What the hell are you on about?* Frank Lekkas __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

11-08-2009, 08:21 PM	#190 (permalink)
justaknight Suspended Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 282	GB in case you haven't been informed already, both David Baumont and I have won our postponed games today at MCC!

11-08-2009, 09:24 PM	#191 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 5. In all fighting, the direct method may be used for joining battle, but indirect methods will be needed in order to secure victory. Art of War indirect methods ie. asymmetrical warfare , guerrilla warfare . .....glad to see this from Fire(Mr.Direct)Goat7 "Do it in the road" __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom Last edited by Axiom : 11-09-2009 at 12:43 AM

11-09-2009, 10:16 PM	#192 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 1,924 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by Heartbreak Kid *What the hell are you on about?* Frank Lekkas Chess is so much more then just the board! Anyway, Back to a sombre note. Does anyone know if the next reserve game is on Thursday at MCC or Saturday at Elwood? The website doesn't give out enough information. cheers, __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

11-09-2009, 10:36 PM	#193 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Is Guessing Allowed? Originally Posted by Firegoat7 Does anyone know if the next reserve game is on Thursday at MCC or Saturday at Elwood? If a person does not know, should he/she make a post saying this, or just not say/post anything at all? __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

11-09-2009, 10:37 PM	#194 (permalink)
Jaydon SCTC Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Queensland, Gold Coast Posts: 1,098 ICC Handle: Aussieboy007 FICS Handle: Bermusia	Originally Posted by Just2Good If a person does not know, should he/she make a post saying this, or just not say/post anything at all? Good question

11-10-2009, 12:01 AM	#195 (permalink)
Lekko HBK Join Date: May 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,311 ICC Handle: Heartbreak-Kid FICS Handle: HeartBreakingKid	Originally Posted by Firegoat7 Chess is so much more then just the board! Yes, there's the pieces and the clocks as well. __________________ Originally Posted by Iconoclast Girls attract boys. more girls playing chess = many more boys playing chess

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