. Sad, but its the way a chess player's mind works.

Frankly I don't why some players at the lower end persist in playing.

I remember .....(someone from chesschat) going to Doberl, would have cost a fortune with everything, scored half a point then came back and stated he had a great comp.

Don't they have any pride. If you persist in going at least study openings etc so can win a few games. Don't just throw your money and pride away. Stick to friendly games if you can't win often.

Maybe they just enjoy the game you clown.


Well surely they will get better from playing so I don't see what your point is? Do you want them to not go because they don't have a realistic chance of winning many games? I detect serious psychological weakness in your mental attitude


Pride ought to be derived from doing, not from achievement. I think it is you has the problem not the person who gives it a go.

cheers,

Maybe they just enjoy the game you clown.

AC
Yeah like some people enjoy putting their foot in their mouth

FG7
Well surely they will get better from playing so I don't see what your point is? Do you want them to not go because they don't have a realistic chance of winning many games? I detect serious psychological weakness in your mental attitude

AC
Getting better by playing... -an expensive and pride sucking exercise if don't improve quickly.


FG
Pride ought to be derived from doing, not from achievement. I think it is you has the problem not the person who gives it a go.

cheers,

AC
Pride from doing - one could be hopeless with the ladies in intimate moments, be the bane of their missus and their world is falling apart, yet they happily go whistling to work as if on top of world.

(if I may elaborate - his wife was even reading "And the bride strips bare" in frustration and anticipation but eventually realised that there are horses for courses and you can't make a something or another out of a sour's ear)

AC
Getting better by playing... -an expensive and pride sucking exercise if don't improve quickly.

Don't they have any pride.

Pride has no dignity. However, there is dignity in heroics.

Do not put down tryers - it's a bad look.

Let me put it this way. The idea that you don't play chess because you are a base materialist with self esteem issues who has no faith in his own abilities to adapt seems pretty self defeating in my books.

But hey, each to their own.

Well if some players can adapt to coming last consistently well then good on them. They are like creationists - they don't mind making fools of themselves in public.

I mean where does one even start responding to a post like this ??

Besides the bilblical type flood of witty rejoinders that invade every sub-department of my brain , i am simply left tongue-tied and paralysed in the face of this .

Collecting my thoughts ,i would like to focus on the second half of this creation , especially the part which says "they don't mind making fools of themselves in public".

Actually , upon reflection ,no, i give up .

This post is like a master mason's missive .
A riddle within a lie within a riddle within an enigma within a lie within a riddle .

Quite extraordinary .

This is the only post i have ever encountered that leaves me flummoxed stumped and impotent .

Well Axiom thanks for the compliment but the answer should have been:

the lower players help pay for the rent of the premises and prizemoney though they have no chance of winning, they normally lose with a smile on their face (very nice of them) and without them I may end up on bottom of ladder myself. So I had better watch my tongue.

AC humor me for a minute here. You make it sound like such a negative experience for a weaker player to play in a tournament. I really don't understand your viewpoint at all.

Personally I have always felt that tournament chess is the best environment for a player to develop. It does not matter at what level a player starts. The only important attribute is to keep striving to become a better player. Losing badly at a chess tournament has its positive side. It is how a person deals with losing that is the most important factor in their development not a past result.

To be quite honest, the benefits from playing far outweigh the negatives in my mind.

cheers,

Well you are wrong about beniftis outweighing negatives smarty pants coz in that book the psychology of chess that psychologist stated that the misery of losing is greater than the joy of winning, that the misery lasts longer.

And if a player wins very little or not at all (as was my example) then there is a lot of misery. I have even heard of such players even becoming depressed over their losses, and even having mental breakdowns. So Mr Socialogist I have taught you something.