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Originally Posted by Euro-Chess
Yes but the thing is this is one of the few crimes which the automatic and necessarily punishment is spelt out in the Laws of Chess. If the arbiter is to follow the Laws of Chess (which they must according to the Laws) then they must rule the game forfeit by the player whose phone rings. (That doesn't necessarily mean the other player scores a win.) To do otherwise is to now follow the clear intention of the Laws.
With regards disproportion, I see it like this. The rule makes made the punishment that punitive so as to ensure players took every measure to make sure that their phone doesn't ring. Some people forget and get caught out, but that's life. Without the rule, mobile phone interruptions would be much more common. |
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sydney, NSW
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Originally Posted by Barry
So if someone farts loudly that would distratc me during a game. Does that mean people who fart should forfeit the game they are playing?
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Originally Posted by Euro-Chess
No, but I would point out that one is the result of necessary biological processes while the other is wholly unnecessary and is at best the result of one player being inconsiderate of everyone else in the tournament hall.
However, the main point of my post was that the application of the mobile phone forfeit is not optional in the Laws of Chess as they stand today. |
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I had the chance to briefly see Patrick Byrom, the CAQ Ratings Officer, a few weeks ago. I asked him if he thought that the ACF should release everyone's RD's so that people can do their own rating calculations without waiting a quarter for the ACF to do it. Currently only an estimate of one's RD is released.
Patrick told me that he agreed with me that RD's should be common knowledge and released. This just goes to show how out of step Bill Gletsos, the National Ratings Officer and ACF Deputy President, is with at least some of his state counterparts - and perhaps with a sizable majority of Australian chess players. AO |
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Originally Posted by mituan
Bill is in a dog knot lock with his secret RD bitch.
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My name is Alex Malejewich
Join Date: Nov 2010
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...but the whole calculation which the RD is based on (using Glicko's own formulae from his website) is a crock of sh**.
You have hundreds, of variables which are very important and to some degree highly reflexive etc. The whole Glicko system is a farce when it is applied to the Australian experience. I would be happy to coach this "Gletsos" chappie at my going rate of $110 per hour. I cannot make him a Statistician, but he will have some knowledge of statistics. This is better than nothing! |
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Originally Posted by SvetlanaBabe
I'm starting to like your style SB.
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The rule is in the FIDE Laws of Chess, and therefore the arbiter is not compelled to remind players of the mobile phone forfeiture rule prior to the tournament or round starting. If a player complains about the rule because they lose the game and were not aware of the rule, then the issue is their ignorance, not the rule itself.
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Originally Posted by Garetoe
Shut up anti human.
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