MP3 Players During Game? - OzChess

**Noddy** · 09-01-2010, 11:22 AM

What's the rule where your opponent listens to an mp3 player during the game, but the music is too loud, and you ask him to turn it down but can still hear the music. Are mp3 plays allowed during tournament games?

**mike1** · 09-01-2010, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Noddy

What's the rule where your opponent listens to an mp3 player during the game, but the music is too loud, and you ask him to turn it down but can still hear the music. Are mp3 plays allowed during tournament games?

An arbiter local to here would say that you should take the point up with the arbiter, not your opponent. And you could expect the arbiter to rule that it is a disturbance if it has caused you to make a complaint. If he does rule it is a disturbance then that MP3 player is not allowed, but other quieter ones may be.

**Ninja** · 09-01-2010, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Noddy

What's the rule where your opponent listens to an mp3 player during the game, but the music is too loud, and you ask him to turn it down but can still hear the music. Are mp3 plays allowed during tournament games?

I believe that the majority of arbiters will go with the FIDE rules which more or less state that no electronic devices are permitted unless expressly approved by the arbiter. So in other words no MP3 players, no phones, no radios, no Nintendo etc etc but possibility of using FIDE approved devices to record moves if expressly allowed by the arbiter.

**Just2Good** · 09-02-2010, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Ninja

I believe that the majority of arbiters will go with the FIDE rules which more or less state that no electronic devices are permitted unless expressly approved by the arbiter. So in other words no MP3 players, no phones, no radios, no Nintendo etc etc but possibility of using FIDE approved devices to record moves if expressly allowed by the arbiter.

That's a bit harsh. I have no issues with people listening to their mp3 player during a game, so long as it is inaudible to me and therefore not distracting to me.

Presumably a broad brush no electronic devices rule would preclude people with a pace maker from playing chess.

**Igor Goldenberg** · 09-02-2010, 03:45 PM

MP3 player should not be allowed in the venue at all. Arbiter might turn a blind eye, but should if it makes any noise must ban it from the tournament hall.

**Noddy** · 09-02-2010, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Igor Goldenberg

MP3 player should not be allowed in the venue at all. Arbiter might turn a blind eye, but should if it makes any noise must ban it from the tournament hall.

So you are saying I should have complained to the arbiter then? But wouldn't my opponent get the shits with me if I did that?

**antichrist** · 09-02-2010, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Noddy

So you are saying I should have complained to the arbiter then? But wouldn't my opponent get the shits with me if I did that?

Everyone has the shits with me but I wear with pride. Actually such players are insulting their opponent, the implication is that the wearer/hearer can defeat his opponent inspite of listening to music without having to fully concentrate.

If you upset them by complaining all the better, then they will be upset and more likely to mistake

**Axiom** · 09-02-2010, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Noddy

So you are saying I should have complained to the arbiter then? But wouldn't my opponent get the shits with me if I did that?

So what ??
Grow a spine Noddy !

And tell your opponent that you are whistle blowing not dobbing .
If he doesn't like that , refer him to me .

**Iconoclast** · 09-02-2010, 08:46 PM

Any human being ought to cop a life ban on life for listening to anything of MP3 malquality. MP3 is the McDonalds of sound, and life is too short to suffer McDonalds.

**antichrist** · 09-02-2010, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

So what ??
Grow a spine Noddy !

And tell your opponent that you are whistle blowing not dobbing .
If he doesn't like that , refer him to me .

What!! Offer him to you?? he could sue Noddy for such a reference. First of all this conspiracy nonsence may be contageous and he will be ridiculed forever, or he may become an Anti-Conspiracist like I am an Anti-Christ. He would also be beyond help.

So just pass him on to Bill or KB so he can be pulpullised to death by a thousands cuts. Then doubled penalty for complaining about it or for doing so in the wrong thread.

**antichrist** · 09-02-2010, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

Any human being ought to cop a life ban on life for listening to anything of MP3 malquality. MP3 is the McDonalds of sound, and life is too short to suffer McDonalds.

I have witnessed you and your family at Maccas for three meals a day - you were addicted to that free coffee

**Iconoclast** · 09-02-2010, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by antichrist

I have witnessed you and your family at Maccas for three meals a day - you were addicted to that free coffee

I have had four Mac burgers in four decades. Every time, I thought it was revolting.

**Axiom** · 09-02-2010, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

I have had four Mac burgers in four decades. Every time, I thought it was revolting.

OUR CCTV RECORDS INDICATE THAT IT WAS IN FACT 5 .

PLEASE REPORT TO THE OFFICES OF CENTRAL CONTROL FOR FURTHER DIRECTIONS

I'M SURE WE CAN COME TO A COMPROMISE .

PLEASE BRING ALL YOUR ID PAPERS AND YOUR LATEST ACCREDITED BIOMETRIC ID RECIEPT

AND AS WE ALWAYS SAY HERE AT CENTRAL CONTROL ..

...PLEASE REMAIN CALM AND IN CONTROL .

**Just2Good** · 09-03-2010, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by Axiom

OUR CCTV RECORDS INDICATE THAT IT WAS IN FACT 5 .

PLEASE REPORT TO THE OFFICES OF CENTRAL CONTROL FOR FURTHER DIRECTIONS

I'M SURE WE CAN COME TO A COMPROMISE .

PLEASE BRING ALL YOUR ID PAPERS AND YOUR LATEST ACCREDITED BIOMETRIC ID RECIEPT

AND AS WE ALWAYS SAY HERE AT CENTRAL CONTROL ..

...PLEASE REMAIN CALM AND IN CONTROL .

Potential POTM candidate, despite the thread hijack.

**Noddy** · 09-03-2010, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Axiom

So what ??
Grow a spine Noddy !

And tell your opponent that you are whistle blowing not dobbing .
If he doesn't like that , refer him to me .

Its too much effort to do that and over what? I didn't want to make a scene.

09-01-2010, 11:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Noddy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toyland Posts: 256	MP3 Players During Game? What's the rule where your opponent listens to an mp3 player during the game, but the music is too loud, and you ask him to turn it down but can still hear the music. Are mp3 plays allowed during tournament games? __________________ Make Way for Noddy.

09-01-2010, 05:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
mike1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 36	Originally Posted by Noddy What's the rule where your opponent listens to an mp3 player during the game, but the music is too loud, and you ask him to turn it down but can still hear the music. Are mp3 plays allowed during tournament games? An arbiter local to here would say that you should take the point up with the arbiter, not your opponent. And you could expect the arbiter to rule that it is a disturbance if it has caused you to make a complaint. If he does rule it is a disturbance then that MP3 player is not allowed, but other quieter ones may be.

09-01-2010, 10:24 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ninja Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 124	Originally Posted by Noddy What's the rule where your opponent listens to an mp3 player during the game, but the music is too loud, and you ask him to turn it down but can still hear the music. Are mp3 plays allowed during tournament games? I believe that the majority of arbiters will go with the FIDE rules which more or less state that no electronic devices are permitted unless expressly approved by the arbiter. So in other words no MP3 players, no phones, no radios, no Nintendo etc etc but possibility of using FIDE approved devices to record moves if expressly allowed by the arbiter.

09-02-2010, 07:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Ninja I believe that the majority of arbiters will go with the FIDE rules which more or less state that no electronic devices are permitted unless expressly approved by the arbiter. So in other words no MP3 players, no phones, no radios, no Nintendo etc etc but possibility of using FIDE approved devices to record moves if expressly allowed by the arbiter. That's a bit harsh. I have no issues with people listening to their mp3 player during a game, so long as it is inaudible to me and therefore not distracting to me. Presumably a broad brush no electronic devices rule would preclude people with a pace maker from playing chess. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

09-02-2010, 03:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Igor Goldenberg Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Melbourne Posts: 331	MP3 player should not be allowed in the venue at all. Arbiter might turn a blind eye, but should if it makes any noise must ban it from the tournament hall. __________________ For private coaching email IgorGoldenberg@bluebottle.com Computer tells you what to play, a good coach explains why. The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. H. L. Mencken

09-02-2010, 07:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Noddy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toyland Posts: 256	Originally Posted by Igor Goldenberg MP3 player should not be allowed in the venue at all. Arbiter might turn a blind eye, but should if it makes any noise must ban it from the tournament hall. So you are saying I should have complained to the arbiter then? But wouldn't my opponent get the shits with me if I did that? __________________ Make Way for Noddy.

09-02-2010, 08:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by Noddy So you are saying I should have complained to the arbiter then? But wouldn't my opponent get the shits with me if I did that? Everyone has the shits with me but I wear with pride. Actually such players are insulting their opponent, the implication is that the wearer/hearer can defeat his opponent inspite of listening to music without having to fully concentrate. If you upset them by complaining all the better, then they will be upset and more likely to mistake

09-02-2010, 08:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Noddy So you are saying I should have complained to the arbiter then? But wouldn't my opponent get the shits with me if I did that? So what ?? Grow a spine Noddy ! And tell your opponent that you are whistle blowing not dobbing . If he doesn't like that , refer him to me . __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

09-02-2010, 08:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Any human being ought to cop a life ban on life for listening to anything of MP3 malquality. MP3 is the McDonalds of sound, and life is too short to suffer McDonalds. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

09-02-2010, 08:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by Axiom So what ?? Grow a spine Noddy ! And tell your opponent that you are whistle blowing not dobbing . If he doesn't like that , refer him to me . What!! Offer him to you?? he could sue Noddy for such a reference. First of all this conspiracy nonsence may be contageous and he will be ridiculed forever, or he may become an Anti-Conspiracist like I am an Anti-Christ. He would also be beyond help. So just pass him on to Bill or KB so he can be pulpullised to death by a thousands cuts. Then doubled penalty for complaining about it or for doing so in the wrong thread.

09-02-2010, 08:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by Iconoclast Any human being ought to cop a life ban on life for listening to anything of MP3 malquality. MP3 is the McDonalds of sound, and life is too short to suffer McDonalds. I have witnessed you and your family at Maccas for three meals a day - you were addicted to that free coffee

09-02-2010, 10:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by antichrist I have witnessed you and your family at Maccas for three meals a day - you were addicted to that free coffee I have had four Mac burgers in four decades. Every time, I thought it was revolting. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

09-02-2010, 10:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	No Need To Panic Originally Posted by Iconoclast I have had four Mac burgers in four decades. Every time, I thought it was revolting. OUR CCTV RECORDS INDICATE THAT IT WAS IN FACT 5 . PLEASE REPORT TO THE OFFICES OF CENTRAL CONTROL FOR FURTHER DIRECTIONS I'M SURE WE CAN COME TO A COMPROMISE . PLEASE BRING ALL YOUR ID PAPERS AND YOUR LATEST ACCREDITED BIOMETRIC ID RECIEPT AND AS WE ALWAYS SAY HERE AT CENTRAL CONTROL .. ...PLEASE REMAIN CALM AND IN CONTROL . __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

09-03-2010, 08:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Axiom OUR CCTV RECORDS INDICATE THAT IT WAS IN FACT 5 . PLEASE REPORT TO THE OFFICES OF CENTRAL CONTROL FOR FURTHER DIRECTIONS I'M SURE WE CAN COME TO A COMPROMISE . PLEASE BRING ALL YOUR ID PAPERS AND YOUR LATEST ACCREDITED BIOMETRIC ID RECIEPT AND AS WE ALWAYS SAY HERE AT CENTRAL CONTROL .. ...PLEASE REMAIN CALM AND IN CONTROL . Potential POTM candidate, despite the thread hijack. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

09-03-2010, 11:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
Noddy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Toyland Posts: 256	Originally Posted by Axiom So what ?? Grow a spine Noddy ! And tell your opponent that you are whistle blowing not dobbing . If he doesn't like that , refer him to me . Its too much effort to do that and over what? I didn't want to make a scene. __________________ Make Way for Noddy.

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