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**Julian Ass** · 11-02-2011, 11:20 PM

1 FROM: KEVIN BONHAM SENT: FRIDAY, 26 NOVEMBER 2010 20:40
Subject: ACF Representation at Rotorua 27 January [2010]

Dear ACF Exec,
I am back after a few weeks offline; hope the meeting went well.
I have received - and pass on as I do not know the answer - the following query from Paul Spiller:
"Also, will the Australian Chess Federation be represented at the inaugural meeting of the Oceania Chess Confederation which will take place on January 27th in Rotorua. I seem to recall at the Oceania zonal meeting at Tweed Heads last year there was no official ACF representative present to give a report on Australian chess ?"
Cheers, Kevin.

**Just2Good** · 11-03-2011, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by Julian Ass

1 FROM: KEVIN BONHAM SENT: FRIDAY, 26 NOVEMBER 2010 20:40
Subject: ACF Representation at Rotorua 27 January [2010]

Dear ACF Exec,
I am back after a few weeks offline; hope the meeting went well.
I have received - and pass on as I do not know the answer - the following query from Paul Spiller:
"Also, will the Australian Chess Federation be represented at the inaugural meeting of the Oceania Chess Confederation which will take place on January 27th in Rotorua. I seem to recall at the Oceania zonal meeting at Tweed Heads last year there was no official ACF representative present to give a report on Australian chess ?"
Cheers, Kevin.

It wouldn't surprise me if Kevin himself leaked this communication!

In any event, it is embarrassing for the ACF. Why did they not send a representative to Tweed Heads to give a report? Perhaps they were too busy with their Chess Chat activities to actually do their job?

**antichrist** · 11-03-2011, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

It wouldn't surprise me if Kevin himself leaked this communication!

In any event, it is embarrassing for the ACF. Why did they not send a representative to Tweed Heads to give a report? Perhaps they were too busy with their Chess Chat activities to actually do their job?

I attended that meeting, they could have asked me to deputise and give a report. Our mate Kev was not there but other illumineraires were - maybe I deserved that OS trip instead of him.

That had a good swimming pool in the Outriggers complex by the way, could have been a few metres longer mind you, I slipped through the control gate on ZYZ guest smart card, he was a paid up bod. Met Shirty there who confirmed he may star in a chess-themed short movie of strip transfer chess - but only as commentator he damanded. Otherwise all bananas

**Julian Ass** · 11-04-2011, 06:26 PM

46 FROM: BILL GLETSOS SENT: TUESDAY, 13 SEPTEMBER 2011 16:43
Subject: Re: Peter Parr comments on OCC

Dear All,
I would like to move the following Executive motion.
That the ACF Executive recommends to Council that the ACF joins the Oceania Chess Confederation.
Gary, can you please put this to the executive for a vote.
Regards,
Bill

**Julian Ass** · 11-05-2011, 11:25 PM

5 FROM: DENIS JESSOP SENT: THURSDAY, 2 DECEMBER 2010 17:12
Subject: Re: OCEANIA CHESS CONFEDERATION (OCC)

Dear Tom and Colleagues
If the ACF is to support this body, and I assume it will, my view is that there should be an ACF delegate, not just a proxy, at the meeting.
Also I think that the ACF should have a person on the EB, if elected.
This raises a question that also exists, though not pressed, with regard to our ACF delegate to the FIDE General Assembly, namely that of expenses. I think that the ACF delegate to both should have his or her expenses paid to a degree. I realise that this flows through to expenses of the Olympiad team though they do receive some assistance already from the Olympiad Appeal to which the ACF makes a contribution.
Cheers
Denis

**Julian Ass** · 11-08-2011, 07:38 PM

6 FROM: TOM ACCOLA SENT: SUNDAY, 9 JANUARY 2011 10:50
Subject: ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC)

Dear Brian,
This is to advise that in regard to the inaugural meeting of the OCC to be held at the Millennium Hotel, Rotorua, New Zealand at 9am on Thursday, 27 January 2011, Mr Phil Viner will be the representative for the Australian Chess Federation.
The matter of the OCC was an Agenda item at the ACF Council Meeting held last night and the Council would appreciate your advices as to the proposed benefits of membership of the OCC.
We look forward to receiving your advices.
Regards and thanks.
Tom Accola
ACF Secretary

7 FROM: GARVIN GRAY SENT: SUNDAY, JANUARY 09, 2011 5:46 PM
To: Tom Accola
Subject: Re: ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC)

Hello Tom,
I think also should be included is asking for consequences and or issues that could arise if ACF does not want to join OCC.
Could this please be added for Brian to respond to?
Cheers,
Garvin

**Firegoat7** · 11-08-2011, 10:20 PM

**The Seeing** · 11-08-2011, 11:01 PM

**Blake7** · 11-09-2011, 02:08 AM

How do you find these things?? Wikileaks, my teacher says is interesting, I think so too.

**The Seeing** · 11-09-2011, 02:23 AM

Originally Posted by Blake7

How do you find these things?? Wikileaks, my teacher says is interesting, I think so too.

Wikileaks

**Julian Ass** · 11-11-2011, 10:32 PM

11 FROM: GARY WASTELL SENT: WEDNESDAY, 12 JANUARY 2011 11:08
Subject: Re: ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC)
Dear fellow Executive members,

In response to Tom’s invitation for comment re Garvin’s suggested additional inquiry:
In my opinion, our agreed request for a statement of proposed benefits of membership is an adequate starting point.
Nevertheless, I suggest we immediately invite all Councillors to convey queries, suggestions etc to the Executive so that, before departing, we can give Phil an idea of the matters we consider most suitable to raise at the meeting on January 27. A point being that answers Brian might care to offer at this stage could differ from answers the meeting might agree upon.
For convenience, the request for States to comment could be accompanied by a copy of the previously distributed attachment, which those who did not attend the recent Conference might not yet have thought about sufficiently.

Best, - Gary

**Just2Good** · 11-12-2011, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by WhiteElephant

What are these ACF emails that 'Julian Ass' is posting over there? Are they real or is he writing them himself? If they are real, how could he have got hold of them?

My understanding based on [nevermind] is that Julian is actually a disgruntled member of the ACF council and is starting to use OzChess to exert some mild pressure on the more stubborn establishment within the ACF.

**Julian Ass** · 11-12-2011, 03:32 PM

12 FROM: TOM ACCOLA SENT: WEDNESDAY, 12 JANUARY 2011 11:15
Subject: ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC)

Dear All,
Herewith is a letter to Brian Jones in response to his email dated 10 January 2011.
regards
Tom

**antichrist** · 11-12-2011, 04:24 PM

I can put two and two together for you - its like 1,2 3

**Julian Ass** · 11-13-2011, 02:40 AM

13 FROM: TOM ACCOLA SENT: WEDNESDAY, 12 JANUARY 2011 11:15
AUSTRALIAN CHESS FEDERATION INC.
Incorporated in ACT reg No A01325 – ABN 3871750318
P O Box 1470, Hornsby-Westfield NSW 1635
12 January 2011
Mr Brian Jones
Australian Chess Enterprises
P O Box 370
RIVERSTONE NSW 2765

Dear Brian,
ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC)
We refer to your email dated 10 January 2011 and enclose copies of the following documents:
1. Australian Government Department of Health and Ageing memo attached to the President’s Report in the ACF 2010 Minutes.
2. Phil Viner’s recent FIDE Congress Report.
In addition to the information requested by the ACF Council in our email dated 9 January 2011, the Council would also appreciate receiving your advice on the consequences and/or issues that could arise if the ACF does not want to join the OCC.
We look forward to hearing from you.
Yours sincerely,
Australian Chess Federation Inc.

11-02-2011, 11:20 PM	#1 (permalink)
Julian Ass Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 81	Wiki - ACF - Leaks 1 FROM: KEVIN BONHAM SENT: FRIDAY, 26 NOVEMBER 2010 20:40 Subject: ACF Representation at Rotorua 27 January [2010] Dear ACF Exec, I am back after a few weeks offline; hope the meeting went well. I have received - and pass on as I do not know the answer - the following query from Paul Spiller: "Also, will the Australian Chess Federation be represented at the inaugural meeting of the Oceania Chess Confederation which will take place on January 27th in Rotorua. I seem to recall at the Oceania zonal meeting at Tweed Heads last year there was no official ACF representative present to give a report on Australian chess ?" Cheers, Kevin.

11-03-2011, 06:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Julian Ass 1 FROM: KEVIN BONHAM SENT: FRIDAY, 26 NOVEMBER 2010 20:40 Subject: ACF Representation at Rotorua 27 January [2010] Dear ACF Exec, I am back after a few weeks offline; hope the meeting went well. I have received - and pass on as I do not know the answer - the following query from Paul Spiller: "Also, will the Australian Chess Federation be represented at the inaugural meeting of the Oceania Chess Confederation which will take place on January 27th in Rotorua. I seem to recall at the Oceania zonal meeting at Tweed Heads last year there was no official ACF representative present to give a report on Australian chess ?" Cheers, Kevin. It wouldn't surprise me if Kevin himself leaked this communication! In any event, it is embarrassing for the ACF. Why did they not send a representative to Tweed Heads to give a report? Perhaps they were too busy with their Chess Chat activities to actually do their job? __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

11-03-2011, 11:10 AM	#3 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by Just2Good It wouldn't surprise me if Kevin himself leaked this communication! In any event, it is embarrassing for the ACF. Why did they not send a representative to Tweed Heads to give a report? Perhaps they were too busy with their Chess Chat activities to actually do their job? I attended that meeting, they could have asked me to deputise and give a report. Our mate Kev was not there but other illumineraires were - maybe I deserved that OS trip instead of him. That had a good swimming pool in the Outriggers complex by the way, could have been a few metres longer mind you, I slipped through the control gate on ZYZ guest smart card, he was a paid up bod. Met Shirty there who confirmed he may star in a chess-themed short movie of strip transfer chess - but only as commentator he damanded. Otherwise all bananas

11-08-2011, 10:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 2,044 ICC Handle: guest	__________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

11-09-2011, 02:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
The Seeing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 263	Originally Posted by Blake7 How do you find these things?? Wikileaks, my teacher says is interesting, I think so too. Wikileaks

11-04-2011, 06:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Julian Ass Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 81	46 FROM: BILL GLETSOS SENT: TUESDAY, 13 SEPTEMBER 2011 16:43 Subject: Re: Peter Parr comments on OCC Dear All, I would like to move the following Executive motion. That the ACF Executive recommends to Council that the ACF joins the Oceania Chess Confederation. Gary, can you please put this to the executive for a vote. Regards, Bill

11-05-2011, 11:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Julian Ass Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 81	5 FROM: DENIS JESSOP SENT: THURSDAY, 2 DECEMBER 2010 17:12 Subject: Re: OCEANIA CHESS CONFEDERATION (OCC) Dear Tom and Colleagues If the ACF is to support this body, and I assume it will, my view is that there should be an ACF delegate, not just a proxy, at the meeting. Also I think that the ACF should have a person on the EB, if elected. This raises a question that also exists, though not pressed, with regard to our ACF delegate to the FIDE General Assembly, namely that of expenses. I think that the ACF delegate to both should have his or her expenses paid to a degree. I realise that this flows through to expenses of the Olympiad team though they do receive some assistance already from the Olympiad Appeal to which the ACF makes a contribution. Cheers Denis

11-08-2011, 07:38 PM	#6 (permalink)
Julian Ass Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 81	6 FROM: TOM ACCOLA SENT: SUNDAY, 9 JANUARY 2011 10:50 Subject: ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC) Dear Brian, This is to advise that in regard to the inaugural meeting of the OCC to be held at the Millennium Hotel, Rotorua, New Zealand at 9am on Thursday, 27 January 2011, Mr Phil Viner will be the representative for the Australian Chess Federation. The matter of the OCC was an Agenda item at the ACF Council Meeting held last night and the Council would appreciate your advices as to the proposed benefits of membership of the OCC. We look forward to receiving your advices. Regards and thanks. Tom Accola ACF Secretary 7 FROM: GARVIN GRAY SENT: SUNDAY, JANUARY 09, 2011 5:46 PM To: Tom Accola Subject: Re: ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC) Hello Tom, I think also should be included is asking for consequences and or issues that could arise if ACF does not want to join OCC. Could this please be added for Brian to respond to? Cheers, Garvin

11-08-2011, 11:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
The Seeing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 263

11-09-2011, 02:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
Blake7 Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 24	How do you find these things?? Wikileaks, my teacher says is interesting, I think so too.

11-11-2011, 10:32 PM	#11 (permalink)
Julian Ass Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 81	11 FROM: GARY WASTELL SENT: WEDNESDAY, 12 JANUARY 2011 11:08 Subject: Re: ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC) Dear fellow Executive members, In response to Tom’s invitation for comment re Garvin’s suggested additional inquiry: In my opinion, our agreed request for a statement of proposed benefits of membership is an adequate starting point. Nevertheless, I suggest we immediately invite all Councillors to convey queries, suggestions etc to the Executive so that, before departing, we can give Phil an idea of the matters we consider most suitable to raise at the meeting on January 27. A point being that answers Brian might care to offer at this stage could differ from answers the meeting might agree upon. For convenience, the request for States to comment could be accompanied by a copy of the previously distributed attachment, which those who did not attend the recent Conference might not yet have thought about sufficiently. Best, - Gary

11-12-2011, 04:05 AM	#12 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by WhiteElephant What are these ACF emails that 'Julian Ass' is posting over there? Are they real or is he writing them himself? If they are real, how could he have got hold of them? My understanding based on [nevermind] is that Julian is actually a disgruntled member of the ACF council and is starting to use OzChess to exert some mild pressure on the more stubborn establishment within the ACF. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~ Last edited by Jaydon : 11-12-2011 at 04:26 PM

11-12-2011, 03:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
Julian Ass Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 81	12 FROM: TOM ACCOLA SENT: WEDNESDAY, 12 JANUARY 2011 11:15 Subject: ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC) Dear All, Herewith is a letter to Brian Jones in response to his email dated 10 January 2011. regards Tom

11-12-2011, 04:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	I can put two and two together for you - its like 1,2 3

11-13-2011, 02:40 AM	#15 (permalink)
Julian Ass Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 81	13 FROM: TOM ACCOLA SENT: WEDNESDAY, 12 JANUARY 2011 11:15 AUSTRALIAN CHESS FEDERATION INC. Incorporated in ACT reg No A01325 – ABN 3871750318 P O Box 1470, Hornsby-Westfield NSW 1635 12 January 2011 Mr Brian Jones Australian Chess Enterprises P O Box 370 RIVERSTONE NSW 2765 Dear Brian, ACF and Oceania Chess Confederation (OCC) We refer to your email dated 10 January 2011 and enclose copies of the following documents: 1. Australian Government Department of Health and Ageing memo attached to the President’s Report in the ACF 2010 Minutes. 2. Phil Viner’s recent FIDE Congress Report. In addition to the information requested by the ACF Council in our email dated 9 January 2011, the Council would also appreciate receiving your advice on the consequences and/or issues that could arise if the ACF does not want to join the OCC. We look forward to hearing from you. Yours sincerely, Australian Chess Federation Inc.

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