FIDE arbiters seminar - OzChess

**Publicist** · 02-26-2011, 11:28 AM

FIDE has approved the proposed FIDE seminar but with some changes. to my previously reported details. The dates and details are now:
August 5 to 8 in conjunction with the Oceania Seniors Zonal.
venue Box Hill Chess Club 3 Rochester Road Canterbury Vic 3126
The entry fee is $200.
The FIDE lecturer is IA Gary Bekker.
The assistant FIDE lecturer is IA Shaun Press
Expressions of interest are invited. by the organizer Gerrit Hartland
Contact email gerrit.hartland@bigpond.com

**Firegoat7** · 02-26-2011, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

The entry fee is $200.

Of course if you do actually want to be an arbiter, I am sure clubs like MCC will happily pay you for doing, even if you don't have a piece of paper.

cheers,

**Iconoclast** · 02-27-2011, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

The entry fee is $200.
...
Expressions of interest are invited by the organizer Gerrit Hartland
Contact email gerrit.hartland@bigpond.com

Shouldn't the ACF be promoting this and picking up the tab?

Read this somewhere: "2. Statement of Purposes

a. The purposes of the Federation are:

i. to foster and control the game of chess throughout Australia;"

An inconvenient document.

**Publicist** · 02-28-2011, 07:03 PM

As a volunteer chess organizer and administrator I have found over many years that if you want to get anything done you have to do it yourself. To think that the ACF or any state organization would step step up and pick up the tab for something like this puts you right into lala land

**Iconoclast** · 02-28-2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

As a volunteer chess organizer and administrator I have found over many years that if you want to get anything done you have to do it yourself. To think that the ACF or any state organization would step step up and pick up the tab for something like this puts you right into lala land

Maybe. However, if the Associations do not do what we expect of them, what good are they. Well, the Associations do some things - such as ratify titles - but mostly they resist change and have near zero initiative.

Remember the quote, "Lead, follow or gat out of the way." It is time the ACF executive pissed off.

P.S. Good on you for running the seminars.

**Just2Good** · 03-01-2011, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

As a volunteer chess organizer and administrator I have found over many years that if you want to get anything done you have to do it yourself. To think that the ACF or any state organization would step step up and pick up the tab for something like this puts you right into lala land

That's because of who is leading the ACF. With more progressive leadership and new blood, some results could be expected.

**Publicist** · 03-02-2011, 09:06 PM

With new blood, some results could be expected,

, Well folks name me one new person who put up his name for election to office. People are not interested. and why should they Poisoned pens from the establishments on one board poisoned pens from the anti establishment on this board. I repeat once more if you. iconoclast firegoat anti christ and others want to engage the powers in Australian chess you have to get civil.

**Iconoclast** · 03-03-2011, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

I repeat once more if you. iconoclast firegoat anti christ and others want to engage the powers in Australian chess you have to get civil.

In your dreams. The difference between having a good shit and engaging with the ACF is I don't have to talk to my shit before I flush it.

**antichrist** · 03-03-2011, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

, Well folks name me one new person who put up his name for election to office. People are not interested. and why should they Poisoned pens from the establishments on one board poisoned pens from the anti establishment on this board. I repeat once more if you. iconoclast firegoat anti christ and others want to engage the powers in Australian chess you have to get civil.

since when have not I been civil? Who are you anyway? Bloody civil! I had to get an atomic bomb out to fix up some ratings years back, no one in ACF was interested - didn't care, when NSW was doing nothing.

Those Koshinski(?) medalholders, some, I would not give you two bob for.

I remember now, I had to go to FIDE to make them jump.

**Publicist** · 03-03-2011, 09:17 PM

See what I mean.
However to return to the thread. There are now 3 expressions of interest for the arbiters seminar.

**Iconoclast** · 03-03-2011, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

My point proven.

See what I mean.

You made no point. So, nothing proven.

You made a statement as if it was a fact. I dispute your statement.

The ACF is [insert truth that some call abuse] that needs flushing.

**antichrist** · 03-03-2011, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

See what I mean.
However to return to the thread. There are now 3 expressions of interest for the arbiters seminar.

what are you on about, since when have I been anti-establishment chess, you make a claim and can't back it up. You refuse to identify yourself, you are gutless and a troublemaker. I would hope that the ACF could get someone more positive to do their pubicity.

I noticed that you did not attempt to answer my complaint. That speak volumes.

When you are prepared to apologise get back.

**antichrist** · 03-03-2011, 09:48 PM

The ACF Council invites inquiries from persons who may be interested in filling one or more of the following positions, which are currently vacant or occupied temporarily. Inquiries may be made by email to tomaccola@optusnet.com.au and gwastell@netspace.net.au or by phone to 0409 525 963.

Advertising Manager
Federal Government Liaison Officer
FIDE Administrative Officer
Publicity Director
Selections Coordinator (Non-junior)
Webmaster
------------------------------------
AC
what qualifications (e.g. state rep or something) does one need to fill these positions?

**Amir Karibasic** · 03-05-2011, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

FIDE has approved the proposed FIDE seminar but with some changes. to my previously reported details. The dates and details are now:
August 5 to 8 in conjunction with the Oceania Seniors Zonal.
venue Box Hill Chess Club 3 Rochester Road Canterbury Vic 3126
The entry fee is $200.
The FIDE lecturer is IA Gary Bekker.
The assistant FIDE lecturer is IA Shaun Press
Expressions of interest are invited. by the organizer Gerrit Hartland
Contact email gerrit.hartland@bigpond.com

This is a great idea.
99%, I am in.

**Just2Good** · 03-06-2011, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Publicist

Well folks name me one new person who put up his name for election to office. People are not interested. and why should they Poisoned pens from the establishments on one board poisoned pens from the anti establishment on this board. I repeat once more if you. iconoclast firegoat anti christ and others want to engage the powers in Australian chess you have to get civil.

Anti-Christ is their member much more than our's. He only posts here when Kevin bans him for something silly and irrelevant.

But I agree that Iconoclast's post was somewhat uncivil.

That said one cannot always be civil when confronted by abusive individuals. We started this forum to get away from them. So what did they do? They come over here and continued attacking us - in the shoutbox and in posts. Our defending ourselves may seem uncivil, but is really only self defence.

02-26-2011, 11:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Publicist Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 63	FIDE arbiters seminar FIDE has approved the proposed FIDE seminar but with some changes. to my previously reported details. The dates and details are now: August 5 to 8 in conjunction with the Oceania Seniors Zonal. venue Box Hill Chess Club 3 Rochester Road Canterbury Vic 3126 The entry fee is $200. The FIDE lecturer is IA Gary Bekker. The assistant FIDE lecturer is IA Shaun Press Expressions of interest are invited. by the organizer Gerrit Hartland Contact email gerrit.hartland@bigpond.com

02-26-2011, 12:24 PM	#2 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 2,044 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by Publicist The entry fee is $200. Of course if you do actually want to be an arbiter, I am sure clubs like MCC will happily pay you for doing, even if you don't have a piece of paper. cheers, __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

02-27-2011, 03:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by Publicist The entry fee is $200. ... Expressions of interest are invited by the organizer Gerrit Hartland Contact email gerrit.hartland@bigpond.com Shouldn't the ACF be promoting this and picking up the tab? Read this somewhere: "2. Statement of Purposes a. The purposes of the Federation are: i. to foster and control the game of chess throughout Australia;" An inconvenient document. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

02-28-2011, 07:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
Publicist Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 63	Pick up the tab? As a volunteer chess organizer and administrator I have found over many years that if you want to get anything done you have to do it yourself. To think that the ACF or any state organization would step step up and pick up the tab for something like this puts you right into lala land

02-28-2011, 08:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by Publicist As a volunteer chess organizer and administrator I have found over many years that if you want to get anything done you have to do it yourself. To think that the ACF or any state organization would step step up and pick up the tab for something like this puts you right into lala land Maybe. However, if the Associations do not do what we expect of them, what good are they. Well, the Associations do some things - such as ratify titles - but mostly they resist change and have near zero initiative. Remember the quote, "Lead, follow or gat out of the way." It is time the ACF executive pissed off. P.S. Good on you for running the seminars. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

03-01-2011, 09:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Publicist As a volunteer chess organizer and administrator I have found over many years that if you want to get anything done you have to do it yourself. To think that the ACF or any state organization would step step up and pick up the tab for something like this puts you right into lala land That's because of who is leading the ACF. With more progressive leadership and new blood, some results could be expected. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

03-02-2011, 09:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
Publicist Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 63	Listen closely With new blood, some results could be expected, , Well folks name me one new person who put up his name for election to office. People are not interested. and why should they Poisoned pens from the establishments on one board poisoned pens from the anti establishment on this board. I repeat once more if you. iconoclast firegoat anti christ and others want to engage the powers in Australian chess you have to get civil.

03-03-2011, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by Publicist I repeat once more if you. iconoclast firegoat anti christ and others want to engage the powers in Australian chess you have to get civil. In your dreams. The difference between having a good shit and engaging with the ACF is I don't have to talk to my shit before I flush it. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

03-03-2011, 08:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by Publicist , Well folks name me one new person who put up his name for election to office. People are not interested. and why should they Poisoned pens from the establishments on one board poisoned pens from the anti establishment on this board. I repeat once more if you. iconoclast firegoat anti christ and others want to engage the powers in Australian chess you have to get civil. since when have not I been civil? Who are you anyway? Bloody civil! I had to get an atomic bomb out to fix up some ratings years back, no one in ACF was interested - didn't care, when NSW was doing nothing. Those Koshinski(?) medalholders, some, I would not give you two bob for. I remember now, I had to go to FIDE to make them jump.

03-03-2011, 09:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
Publicist Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 63	My point proven See what I mean. However to return to the thread. There are now 3 expressions of interest for the arbiters seminar.

03-03-2011, 09:36 PM	#11 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by Publicist My point proven. See what I mean. You made no point. So, nothing proven. You made a statement as if it was a fact. I dispute your statement. The ACF is [insert truth that some call abuse] that needs flushing. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

03-03-2011, 09:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	Originally Posted by Publicist See what I mean. However to return to the thread. There are now 3 expressions of interest for the arbiters seminar. what are you on about, since when have I been anti-establishment chess, you make a claim and can't back it up. You refuse to identify yourself, you are gutless and a troublemaker. I would hope that the ACF could get someone more positive to do their pubicity. I noticed that you did not attempt to answer my complaint. That speak volumes. When you are prepared to apologise get back.

03-03-2011, 09:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
antichrist Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Byron Bay, NSW Posts: 2,821	from ACF website The ACF Council invites inquiries from persons who may be interested in filling one or more of the following positions, which are currently vacant or occupied temporarily. Inquiries may be made by email to tomaccola@optusnet.com.au and gwastell@netspace.net.au or by phone to 0409 525 963. Advertising Manager Federal Government Liaison Officer FIDE Administrative Officer Publicity Director Selections Coordinator (Non-junior) Webmaster ------------------------------------ AC what qualifications (e.g. state rep or something) does one need to fill these positions?

03-05-2011, 07:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
Amir Karibasic Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Gold Coast Posts: 194	Originally Posted by Publicist FIDE has approved the proposed FIDE seminar but with some changes. to my previously reported details. The dates and details are now: August 5 to 8 in conjunction with the Oceania Seniors Zonal. venue Box Hill Chess Club 3 Rochester Road Canterbury Vic 3126 The entry fee is $200. The FIDE lecturer is IA Gary Bekker. The assistant FIDE lecturer is IA Shaun Press Expressions of interest are invited. by the organizer Gerrit Hartland Contact email gerrit.hartland@bigpond.com This is a great idea. 99%, I am in. __________________ . Visit my chess shop!

03-06-2011, 09:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,233 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Publicist Well folks name me one new person who put up his name for election to office. People are not interested. and why should they Poisoned pens from the establishments on one board poisoned pens from the anti establishment on this board. I repeat once more if you. iconoclast firegoat anti christ and others want to engage the powers in Australian chess you have to get civil. Anti-Christ is their member much more than our's. He only posts here when Kevin bans him for something silly and irrelevant. But I agree that Iconoclast's post was somewhat uncivil. That said one cannot always be civil when confronted by abusive individuals. We started this forum to get away from them. So what did they do? They come over here and continued attacking us - in the shoutbox and in posts. Our defending ourselves may seem uncivil, but is really only self defence. __________________ . "The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing." ~ Isaiah Berlin ~

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