ACF Takes Formal Ownership of Chess Chat! - OzChess

**Just2Good** · 05-17-2010, 04:16 PM

I just did a registration look up for the Chess Chat website.

It appears the website is now legally owned by the Australian Chess Federation, and is no longer owned by Karth-ick.

The results from a Whois search are below. How perplexing that this was not reported in the ACF newsletter.

CHESSCHAT.ORG WHOIS
Updated: 1 second ago
Registrant Contact Information:
Name: Bill Gletsos
Organization: AUSTRALIAN CHESS FEDERATION INCORPORATED
Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St
City: Ultimo
State: NSW
Zip: 2007
Country: AU
Phone: +61.288470901
Email: @************.com.au

Administrative Contact Information:
Name: Bill Gletsos
Organization: AUSTRALIAN CHESS FEDERATION INCORPORATED
Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St
City: Ultimo
State: NSW
Zip: 2007
Country: AU
Phone: +61.288470901
Email: @************.com.au

Technical Contact Information:
Name: Bill Gletsos
Organization: AUSTRALIAN CHESS FEDERATION INCORPORATED
Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St
City: Ultimo
State: NSW
Zip: 2007
Country: AU
Phone: +61.288470901
Email: @************.com.au

**Iconoclast** · 05-17-2010, 09:16 PM

When a site is given "official site" status, it receives the kiss of death. It loses all credibility for being an open forum, free from bias or spin. The truth will be found elsewhere - @OZCHESS.

Now is the time to tell everyone to quit ChessChat. Let the ACF ChessChat Zombies cannibalise themselves in the necropolis that they made. If anyone gets a photograph of Billdog, Denis the Menise and Australia's most likely to be cuckolded, all eating each other's purulent brains, I want to see it.

OZ Chess is "The Independent" of chess in Australia. Shout it from the peaks.

**Firegoat7** · 05-18-2010, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Just2Good

[font="Georgia"]I just did a registration look up for the Chess Chat website.

It appears the website is now legally owned by the Australian Chess Federation, and is no longer owned by Karth-ick.

Haha Classic.

Now they have to call it the official unoffical official Australian chess forum.
I bet Gletsos still claims that it is a "private" forum. Does that clown Rincewind remain the chief admin? I doubt it, I reckon Gletsos is the main man now.

cheers,

**Axiom** · 05-18-2010, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by Firegoat7

Haha Classic.

Now they have to call it the official unoffical official Australian chess forum.
I bet Gletsos still claims that it is a "private" forum. Does that clown Rincewind remain the chief admin? I doubt it, I reckon Gletsos is the main man now.

cheers,

oh , its ok, Big Kev-Tyrantosaurus Bonham assures us , it is just a registering error !

**Just2Good** · 05-18-2010, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by Axiom

oh , its ok, Big Kev-Tyrantosaurus Bonham assures us , it is just a registering error !

Ha, ha - yeah right. Did he actually say this?

**Bill Gletsos** · 05-18-2010, 06:59 PM

If you lot were actually paying attention you would have noticed that the address, phone number and email were Karthicks.

Current whois data is as follows:

CHESSCHAT.ORG WHOIS
Updated: 1 minute ago
Registrant Contact Information:
Name: ******** Rajendran
Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St
City: Ultimo
State: NSW
Zip: 2007
Country: AU
Phone: +61.288470901
Email: ********@************.com.au

Administrative Contact Information:
Name: ******** Rajendran
Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St
City: Ultimo
State: NSW
Zip: 2007
Country: AU
Phone: +61.288470901
Email: ********@************.com.au

Technical Contact Information:
Name: ******** Rajendran
Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St
City: Ultimo
State: NSW
Zip: 2007
Country: AU
Phone: +61.288470901
Email: ********@************.com.au

**Ninja** · 05-18-2010, 07:22 PM

You mean you just changed it back???
Shows three modifications this month on the historical records and still shows ACF as owner on Whois.net - Domain Names as of now

**Bill Gletsos** · 05-18-2010, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by Ninja

You mean you just changed it back???
Shows three modifications this month on the historical records and still shows ACF as owner on Whois.net - Domain Names as of now

Whois.net is behind the times.
Chess Chat - Australia's Premier Chess Forum - Powered by vBulletin has always been owned by ******** irrestective of what the whois data claims.

As Kevin said it was simply a registration error.

**Ninja** · 05-18-2010, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

Whois.net is behind the times.
Chess Chat - Australia's Premier Chess Forum - Powered by vBulletin has always been owned by ******** irrestective of what the whois data claims.

As Kevin said it was simply a registration error.

Must not have had enough coffee or something as that does not quite make sense.

So it was a registration error ??
So the person who has access to change it (and it shows as security locked so you would need to authenticate who you are to change it) accidentally typed in ACF instead of whatever was meant to be there.

Pretty dumb "registration error".

Also obviously shows that although Kart-hick may technically own it he is not actually the person in control of it.

**Axiom** · 05-18-2010, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Ninja

Must not have had enough coffee or something as that does not quite make sense.

So it was a registration error ??
So the person who has access to change it (and it shows as security locked so you would need to authenticate who you are to change it) accidentally typed in ACF instead of whatever was meant to be there.

Pretty dumb "registration error".

i think they call it "fat fingers" .

**Iconoclast** · 05-18-2010, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos

If you lot were actually paying attention you would have noticed that the address, phone number and email were Karthicks.

Oh, now I get it!

Registrant Name:Bill Gletsos
Registrant Street1:Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St

Bill is now living with ******** in a trendy Ultimo flat. Bill, you have been in a closed set for too long.

**Iconoclast** · 05-18-2010, 09:36 PM

BTW, I thought that only an "organisation" could use a dot org address. Isn't Karrthick a commercial enterprise - i.e. dot com. Isn't the ACF an organisation - i.e. dot org. Please help me to understand oddity of it all.

**Axiom** · 05-18-2010, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

BTW, I thought that only an "organisation" could use a dot org address. Isn't Karrthick a commercial enterprise - i.e. dot com. Isn't the ACF an organisation - i.e. dot org. Please help me to understand oddity of it all.

That question deserves an answer .
Maybe it's one of those registration errors .

Which reminds me of a joke ;
Why is a registration error like a terrorist ? They both can be found behind any standard home fixture.

**Bill Gletsos** · 05-18-2010, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Iconoclast

BTW, I thought that only an "organisation" could use a dot org address. Isn't Karrthick a commercial enterprise - i.e. dot com. Isn't the ACF an organisation - i.e. dot org. Please help me to understand oddity of it all.

You are thinging of .org.au where only an organisation can register. That is a local restriction imposed by the Aus Domain name authority.
Anyone can register a .org

**Just2Good** · 05-19-2010, 04:49 AM

Thanks Ax.

I think Ninja, a well respected chess dad in Victoria, hit the nail on the head. Registration errors of this type don't ordinarily happen. What is more plausible is that I blew the whistle, and someone immediately changed the WhoIs details once again, before Kar-thick found out what had happened.

05-17-2010, 04:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	ACF Takes Formal Ownership of Chess Chat! I just did a registration look up for the Chess Chat website. It appears the website is now legally owned by the Australian Chess Federation, and is no longer owned by Karth-ick. The results from a Whois search are below. How perplexing that this was not reported in the ACF newsletter. CHESSCHAT.ORG WHOIS Updated: 1 second ago Registrant Contact Information: Name: Bill Gletsos Organization: AUSTRALIAN CHESS FEDERATION INCORPORATED Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St City: Ultimo State: NSW Zip: 2007 Country: AU Phone: +61.288470901 Email: @**********.com.au Administrative Contact Information: Name: Bill Gletsos Organization: AUSTRALIAN CHESS FEDERATION INCORPORATED Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St City: Ultimo State: NSW Zip: 2007 Country: AU Phone: +61.288470901 Email: @********.com.au Technical Contact Information: Name: Bill Gletsos Organization: AUSTRALIAN CHESS FEDERATION INCORPORATED Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St City: Ultimo State: NSW Zip: 2007 Country: AU Phone: +61.288470901 Email: @*********.com.au __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete."* ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

05-17-2010, 09:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	When a site is given "official site" status, it receives the kiss of death. It loses all credibility for being an open forum, free from bias or spin. The truth will be found elsewhere - @OZCHESS. Now is the time to tell everyone to quit ChessChat. Let the ACF ChessChat Zombies cannibalise themselves in the necropolis that they made. If anyone gets a photograph of Billdog, Denis the Menise and Australia's most likely to be cuckolded, all eating each other's purulent brains, I want to see it. OZ Chess is "The Independent" of chess in Australia. Shout it from the peaks. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

05-18-2010, 02:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
Firegoat7 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Getting owned by White in the Dragon and trying to recover lost positions from shock paralysis OTB Posts: 1,924 ICC Handle: guest	Originally Posted by Just2Good [font="Georgia"]I just did a registration look up for the Chess Chat website. It appears the website is now legally owned by the Australian Chess Federation, and is no longer owned by Karth-ick. Haha Classic. Now they have to call it the official unoffical official Australian chess forum. I bet Gletsos still claims that it is a "private" forum. Does that clown Rincewind remain the chief admin? I doubt it, I reckon Gletsos is the main man now. cheers, __________________ "...What I meant? Dear Mr Ian Rout (ACF news publisher) could you please put Ozchessforum in the next news letter! There is no reason to hide this forum from the Australian chess public. What they meant? Sorry, No english!- Amir Karibasic

05-18-2010, 02:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Private Club Registration Originally Posted by Firegoat7 Haha Classic. Now they have to call it the official unoffical official Australian chess forum. I bet Gletsos still claims that it is a "private" forum. Does that clown Rincewind remain the chief admin? I doubt it, I reckon Gletsos is the main man now. cheers, oh , its ok, Big Kev-Tyrantosaurus Bonham assures us , it is just a registering error ! __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

05-18-2010, 07:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Originally Posted by Axiom oh , its ok, Big Kev-Tyrantosaurus Bonham assures us , it is just a registering error ! Ha, ha - yeah right. Did he actually say this? __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

05-18-2010, 06:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	If you lot were actually paying attention you would have noticed that the address, phone number and email were Karthicks. Current whois data is as follows: CHESSCHAT.ORG WHOIS Updated: 1 minute ago Registrant Contact Information: Name: ****** Rajendran Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St City: Ultimo State: NSW Zip: 2007 Country: AU Phone: +61.288470901 Email: ****@********.com.au Administrative Contact Information: Name: **** Rajendran Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St City: Ultimo State: NSW Zip: 2007 Country: AU Phone: +61.288470901 Email: ****@********.com.au Technical Contact Information: Name: **** Rajendran Address 1: Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St City: Ultimo State: NSW Zip: 2007 Country: AU Phone: +61.288470901 Email: ****@**********.com.au

05-18-2010, 07:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ninja Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 124	You mean you just changed it back??? Shows three modifications this month on the historical records and still shows ACF as owner on Whois.net - Domain Names as of now

05-18-2010, 08:05 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by Ninja You mean you just changed it back??? Shows three modifications this month on the historical records and still shows ACF as owner on Whois.net - Domain Names as of now Whois.net is behind the times. Chess Chat - Australia's Premier Chess Forum - Powered by vBulletin has always been owned by ******** irrestective of what the whois data claims. As Kevin said it was simply a registration error.

05-18-2010, 08:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Ninja Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 124	Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos Whois.net is behind the times. Chess Chat - Australia's Premier Chess Forum - Powered by vBulletin has always been owned by ******** irrestective of what the whois data claims. As Kevin said it was simply a registration error. Must not have had enough coffee or something as that does not quite make sense. So it was a registration error ?? So the person who has access to change it (and it shows as security locked so you would need to authenticate who you are to change it) accidentally typed in ACF instead of whatever was meant to be there. Pretty dumb "registration error". Also obviously shows that although Kart-hick may technically own it he is not actually the person in control of it.

05-18-2010, 08:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Digitally Speaking Originally Posted by Ninja Must not have had enough coffee or something as that does not quite make sense. So it was a registration error ?? So the person who has access to change it (and it shows as security locked so you would need to authenticate who you are to change it) accidentally typed in ACF instead of whatever was meant to be there. Pretty dumb "registration error". i think they call it "fat fingers" . __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom Last edited by Axiom : 05-19-2010 at 01:20 PM

05-18-2010, 09:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	Originally Posted by Bill Gletsos If you lot were actually paying attention you would have noticed that the address, phone number and email were Karthicks. Oh, now I get it! Registrant Name:Bill Gletsos Registrant Street1:Suite 85 / 330 Wattle St Bill is now living with ******** in a trendy Ultimo flat. Bill, you have been in a closed set for too long. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

05-18-2010, 09:36 PM	#12 (permalink)
Iconoclast Immoderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Wollongong NSW Posts: 2,302	BTW, I thought that only an "organisation" could use a dot org address. Isn't Karrthick a commercial enterprise - i.e. dot com. Isn't the ACF an organisation - i.e. dot org. Please help me to understand oddity of it all. __________________ The individual is hopeless without the group. The group is hopeless without its individuals.

05-18-2010, 09:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
Axiom Reality Analyst Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 3,498	Originally Posted by Iconoclast BTW, I thought that only an "organisation" could use a dot org address. Isn't Karrthick a commercial enterprise - i.e. dot com. Isn't the ACF an organisation - i.e. dot org. Please help me to understand oddity of it all. That question deserves an answer . Maybe it's one of those registration errors . Which reminds me of a joke ; Why is a registration error like a terrorist ? They both can be found behind any standard home fixture. __________________ "Sometimes the obligation of the intelligent is to restate the obvious. None more important than emphatically stating that there is a : ' Naked Emperor Elephant in the Room' " Axiom

05-18-2010, 09:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bill Gletsos Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 653	Originally Posted by Iconoclast BTW, I thought that only an "organisation" could use a dot org address. Isn't Karrthick a commercial enterprise - i.e. dot com. Isn't the ACF an organisation - i.e. dot org. Please help me to understand oddity of it all. You are thinging of .org.au where only an organisation can register. That is a local restriction imposed by the Aus Domain name authority. Anyone can register a .org

05-19-2010, 04:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
Just2Good Tin Cup Champ 2004 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cairns Posts: 6,056 ICC Handle: Advantage FICS Handle: Advantage	Thanks Ax. I think Ninja, a well respected chess dad in Victoria, hit the nail on the head. Registration errors of this type don't ordinarily happen. What is more plausible is that I blew the whistle, and someone immediately changed the WhoIs details once again, before Kar-thick found out what had happened. __________________ . "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller ~

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